Selfish, careless or just an arsehole ?

…everyone who USES…

DJ said :

malliemcg said :

To eyelikecarrots: Are you sure you were doing the speed limit? Have you had your speedo calibrated or using something more accurate than what’s on the dash? Most modern speedos seem to be configured to read about 10% under.

Then wouldn’t everybody be doing the same speed anyway? Oh, except Capt RAAF and his fans

…and everyone who Adelaide Avenue in the morning (well, the mornings when the cops aren’t there).

malliemcg said :

To eyelikecarrots: Are you sure you were doing the speed limit? Have you had your speedo calibrated or using something more accurate than what’s on the dash? Most modern speedos seem to be configured to read about 10% under.

Then wouldn’t everybody be doing the same speed anyway? Oh, except Capt RAAF and his fans

To eyelikecarrots: Are you sure you were doing the speed limit? Have you had your speedo calibrated or using something more accurate than what’s on the dash? Most modern speedos seem to be configured to read about 10% under.

So what do you call a person who sits on your rear bumper bar and gets irate because the disability friendly taxi in front of you is driving slowly trying to spot the person in a wheelchair waiting on the side of London Circuit.

(We had all just started off from the lights at constitution avenue and the cab finally spotted the passenger and pulled into the short term parking just before the onramp to Commonwealth Ave).

She starts out shaking her head then escalates to waving her arms around (looked a bit like mobile zumba), and then starts giving me the finger.

– for a moment I thought she was going to flash her headlights at me.

Selfish, careless or just an arsehole? Why not “all three”, the terms are not mutually exclusive.

Captain RAAF said :

Jim Jones said :

georgesgenitals said :

Jim Jones said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Captain RAAF said :

Jono said :

Captain RAAF said :

I prostate myself …..

I normally wouldn’t comment on spelling mistakes/typos but this one’s irresistible.

I’ve never seen “prostate” used as a verb before, but presumably it’s something that can only be done to a male. I shudder to think what it might involve.

Self inspection, it’s the only way to be sure!

=-)

I find your fascination with my arse somewhat confusing…yet strangely erotic.
Having started in the Kabana boys (that’s going to take some sleuthing), I am no stranger to what can happen to a soldiers bottom, but I assure you there is nothing untoward about my rock hard buns. Still, if you want to continue, and thanks Johnboy for stringing this one along, go ya hardest, it’s not like anything you lot says is going to upset me….short of fgzk’s previous comment.

I always suspected you had your thumb up your…

If he’s in the armed forces then he’s probably got his whole fist up there.

The question is whether he can wave with that hand at the same time…

Oh, that’s not a wave … it’s a salute!

I have to confess to being kinda disappointed – when I saw you’d responded to this I thought it would be with photos.

Jim Jones said :

georgesgenitals said :

Jim Jones said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Captain RAAF said :

Jono said :

Captain RAAF said :

I prostate myself …..

I normally wouldn’t comment on spelling mistakes/typos but this one’s irresistible.

I’ve never seen “prostate” used as a verb before, but presumably it’s something that can only be done to a male. I shudder to think what it might involve.

Self inspection, it’s the only way to be sure!

=-)

I find your fascination with my arse somewhat confusing…yet strangely erotic.
Having started in the Kabana boys (that’s going to take some sleuthing), I am no stranger to what can happen to a soldiers bottom, but I assure you there is nothing untoward about my rock hard buns. Still, if you want to continue, and thanks Johnboy for stringing this one along, go ya hardest, it’s not like anything you lot says is going to upset me….short of fgzk’s previous comment.

I always suspected you had your thumb up your…

If he’s in the armed forces then he’s probably got his whole fist up there.

The question is whether he can wave with that hand at the same time…

Oh, that’s not a wave … it’s a salute!

Jim Jones said :

georgesgenitals said :

Jim Jones said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Captain RAAF said :

Jono said :

Captain RAAF said :

I prostate myself …..

I normally wouldn’t comment on spelling mistakes/typos but this one’s irresistible.

I’ve never seen “prostate” used as a verb before, but presumably it’s something that can only be done to a male. I shudder to think what it might involve.

Self inspection, it’s the only way to be sure!

=-)

I always suspected you had your thumb up your…

If he’s in the armed forces then he’s probably got his whole fist up there.

The question is whether he can wave with that hand at the same time…

Oh, that’s not a wave … it’s a salute!

And that is a mental picture I didn’t need!

georgesgenitals said :

Jim Jones said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Captain RAAF said :

Jono said :

Captain RAAF said :

I prostate myself …..

I normally wouldn’t comment on spelling mistakes/typos but this one’s irresistible.

I’ve never seen “prostate” used as a verb before, but presumably it’s something that can only be done to a male. I shudder to think what it might involve.

Self inspection, it’s the only way to be sure!

=-)

I always suspected you had your thumb up your…

If he’s in the armed forces then he’s probably got his whole fist up there.

The question is whether he can wave with that hand at the same time…

Oh, that’s not a wave … it’s a salute!

Jim Jones said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Captain RAAF said :

Jono said :

Captain RAAF said :

I prostate myself …..

I normally wouldn’t comment on spelling mistakes/typos but this one’s irresistible.

I’ve never seen “prostate” used as a verb before, but presumably it’s something that can only be done to a male. I shudder to think what it might involve.

Self inspection, it’s the only way to be sure!

=-)

I always suspected you had your thumb up your…

If he’s in the armed forces then he’s probably got his whole fist up there.

The question is whether he can wave with that hand at the same time…

Captain RAAF said :

I prostate myself

What you do in the privacy of your own home, whether alone or with one or more partners of either gender, is your own business. We don’t need or want to know about it.

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Captain RAAF said :

Jono said :

Captain RAAF said :

I prostate myself …..

I normally wouldn’t comment on spelling mistakes/typos but this one’s irresistible.

I’ve never seen “prostate” used as a verb before, but presumably it’s something that can only be done to a male. I shudder to think what it might involve.

Self inspection, it’s the only way to be sure!

=-)

I always suspected you had your thumb up your…

If he’s in the armed forces then he’s probably got his whole fist up there.

Holden Caulfield said :

I suppose it depends on your car, and I have driven hatchbacks for the last 10 years or more, so perhaps their smaller size helps a bit. However, on every one of the 3-4 cars I’ve had in recent times I have been able to adjust the mirrors (and pay attention to them) sufficiently that there is many times (but not always) no need to check the blind spot. I suppose I have made an assumption that people are paying enough attention to the road that they have a general awareness of what is going on around them. Silly mistake, I know!

You will find that if you lean forward in the seat while checking your rearview mirror, the different angle will reflect what is normally the blind spot. I was told about this by a guy who used to drive a pantech through Melbourne, and it works surprisingly well. That said, the headcheck is now a habit, and not one I intended to break.

Captain RAAF said :

Jono said :

Captain RAAF said :

I prostate myself …..

I normally wouldn’t comment on spelling mistakes/typos but this one’s irresistible.

I’ve never seen “prostate” used as a verb before, but presumably it’s something that can only be done to a male. I shudder to think what it might involve.

Self inspection, it’s the only way to be sure!

=-)

I always suspected you had your thumb up your…

Jono said :

Captain RAAF said :

I prostate myself …..

I normally wouldn’t comment on spelling mistakes/typos but this one’s irresistible.

I’ve never seen “prostate” used as a verb before, but presumably it’s something that can only be done to a male. I shudder to think what it might involve.

Self inspection, it’s the only way to be sure!

=-)

eyeLikeCarrots said :

No, I was in the left lane, the 626 was following me. The 4wd was in the right lane and the 626 tried to merge into the right (inner fast lane) until he near on had a prang and decided it would be safer to stay behind me.

Fair enough, although the inside lane is the inside land, and the outside lane is the outside lane, haha; which is where the confusion stemmed.

Oh, for the others, I’m also aware of the 80km/h rule

eyeLikeCarrots said :

Mirrors – I disagree, no matter how your mirrors are set up there will always be a blind spot you should check to make sure you’re not going to tap someone else.

I suppose it depends on your car, and I have driven hatchbacks for the last 10 years or more, so perhaps their smaller size helps a bit. However, on every one of the 3-4 cars I’ve had in recent times I have been able to adjust the mirrors (and pay attention to them) sufficiently that there is many times (but not always) no need to check the blind spot. I suppose I have made an assumption that people are paying enough attention to the road that they have a general awareness of what is going on around them. Silly mistake, I know!

Captain RAAF said :

I prostate myself …..

I normally wouldn’t comment on spelling mistakes/typos but this one’s irresistible.

I’ve never seen “prostate” used as a verb before, but presumably it’s something that can only be done to a male. I shudder to think what it might involve.

Solidarity said :

Hindmarsh is an 80 zone and it has a keep left unless overtaking sign.

Not where I’m talking about; between Ainsworth and Melrose it’s 60km/hr and it’s two-lane (at some points it’s three!)

This place and it’s drivers, so somebody made a mistake and corrected himself before any damage was done. Big deal, it should only worry the perfect drivers.

You must have been watching your mirrors hard to know all this. How fast was the 4WD going ?

Captain RAAF said :

My thoughts exactly…no I’m not agreeing with you Carrots, I’m agreeing with HC!

Get out of my lane (that’s the right hand one for you uninitiated). Abiding by the speed limit and utilising the right hand lane while not overtaking in any speed zone is actually an offence but in an 80+ kph zone it is signposted and actually a much more dangerous activity due to the speeds cars are travelling.

Move over or face the consequences but if you give me the finger or flash your high beams at me I swear I’ll go you with a hammer!

Dont forget the cyclists, there had to be a bunch of arrogant lycra clad riders holding up the traffic at ungodly hours involved somewhere……..

he was probably an arsehole, is my guess.

I prostate myself and beg forgiveness but I think there may be a state that has such a law, as I recall having this agument previously.

Regardless, right hand lane and ramming speed, GO!

Thanks for setting me straight.

Captain RAAF said :

Jim Jones said :

Amanda Hugankis said :

Okay – confused now. Irrespective of it being a driving courtesy to shift to the left when not overtaking, I thought that TECHNICALLY (legally?) it is NOT an offence to sit in the right hand lane when not overtaking on roads up to and including 80km limits.

That’s right.

Apparently, a lot of Canberra driver believe that there’s a law that says: “You’re allowed to go as fast as you want in the right hand lane and anybody actually doing the speed limit in this lane is your mortal enemy.”

Using the right hand lane while not overtaking is NOT an offence. Anybody who would have you believe this is full of it.

Bollocks Jim, you are required to keep to the left at all times whenever possible!

No, no you’re not. Read the road rules posted above.

Captain RAAF said :

Bollocks Jim, you are required to keep to the left at all times whenever possible!

Please go down to the nearest ACT Government Shopfront (by bus, do not drive) and hand in your licence.

Solidarity said :

Hindmarsh is an 80 zone and it has a keep left unless overtaking sign.

I was briefly confused by this as well, but #10 clears it up – the signs are there because the “keep left” rule wouldn’t otherwise apply.

No, I was in the left lane, the 626 was following me. The 4wd was in the right lane and the 626 tried to merge into the right (inner fast lane) until he near on had a prang and decided it would be safer to stay behind me.

This was traveling towards the city on the Parkway.

Mirrors – I disagree, no matter how your mirrors are set up there will always be a blind spot you should check to make sure you’re not going to tap someone else.

Davey – no I didn’t pull over and have a chat with him about his disability. I made the determination that he shouldn’t have been driving because he didn’t check his blind spot and almost caused an accident (I think the reaction of the 4wd driver prevented it). So maybe it only places Mr Brace in the category of ‘careless’.

Jim Jones said :

Amanda Hugankis said :

Okay – confused now. Irrespective of it being a driving courtesy to shift to the left when not overtaking, I thought that TECHNICALLY (legally?) it is NOT an offence to sit in the right hand lane when not overtaking on roads up to and including 80km limits.

That’s right.

Apparently, a lot of Canberra driver believe that there’s a law that says: “You’re allowed to go as fast as you want in the right hand lane and anybody actually doing the speed limit in this lane is your mortal enemy.”

Using the right hand lane while not overtaking is NOT an offence. Anybody who would have you believe this is full of it.

Bollocks Jim, you are required to keep to the left at all times whenever possible!

From the Road Rules ACT handbook (http://www.tams.act.gov.au/move/driver_licence/Road_Rules_Handbook)

Keeping to the left on a multi-lane road:
==============
This rule applies on a multi-lane road
where:
• the speed-limit is over 80 km/h; or
• a keep left unless overtaking sign
applies.
You must not drive in the right lane
unless:
• you are turning right, or making a
U–turn from the centre of the road,
and are giving a right turn signal;
• you are overtaking;
• a left lane must turn left sign or left
traffic lane arrows apply to any other
lane and you are not turning left;
• you are required to drive in the right
lane;
• you are avoiding an obstruction;
• the traffic in the other lanes is
congested; or
• the traffic in every lane is congested.
===================

but you should still be courteous, even if it’s not breaking the law.

I can’t see the radio buttons for voting…

So Canberra, I ask you – Are people who drive their cars when they really shouldn’t, selfish…. plain careless… or arseholes ?

Out of interest, how do you know he shouldnt have been driving? Did you have a chat to him about his disability? Do you believe that all injured people should refrain from driving, or at what point do you think its okay? Sprained wrist, sore back?

It sounds like your stereotyping of ones ability to drive (when it sounds like you were breaking the law yourself), based on an injury, puts you into one of the 3 categories you mention above.

Amanda Hugankis said :

Okay – confused now. Irrespective of it being a driving courtesy to shift to the left when not overtaking, I thought that TECHNICALLY (legally?) it is NOT an offence to sit in the right hand lane when not overtaking on roads up to and including 80km limits.

That’s right.

Apparently, a lot of Canberra driver believe that there’s a law that says: “You’re allowed to go as fast as you want in the right hand lane and anybody actually doing the speed limit in this lane is your mortal enemy.”

Using the right hand lane while not overtaking is NOT an offence. Anybody who would have you believe this is full of it.

Hindmarsh is an 80 zone and it has a keep left unless overtaking sign.

What if he was in the 60km/hr roads Northbourne, Melrose, Hindmarsh (Woden/Hospital end), Anzac Pde etc? Where people often occupy RH lanes when they plan to turn right?

OP didn’t specify where he was and there are plenty of dual-carriage way spots in Canberra where you are quite within your rights to be in the RH lane without overtaking.

Captain RAAF said :

My thoughts exactly…no I’m not agreeing with you Carrots, I’m agreeing with HC!

Get out of my lane (that’s the right hand one for you uninitiated). Abiding by the speed limit and utilising the right hand lane while not overtaking in any speed zone is actually an offence but in an 80+ kph zone it is signposted and actually a much more dangerous activity due to the speeds cars are travelling.

Move over or face the consequences but if you give me the finger or flash your high beams at me I swear I’ll go you with a hammer!

*sigh* it is only an offence if the speed limit is over 80 clicks. do your homework.

Okay – confused now. Irrespective of it being a driving courtesy to shift to the left when not overtaking, I thought that TECHNICALLY (legally?) it is NOT an offence to sit in the right hand lane when not overtaking on roads up to and including 80km limits.

My thoughts exactly…no I’m not agreeing with you Carrots, I’m agreeing with HC!

Get out of my lane (that’s the right hand one for you uninitiated). Abiding by the speed limit and utilising the right hand lane while not overtaking in any speed zone is actually an offence but in an 80+ kph zone it is signposted and actually a much more dangerous activity due to the speeds cars are travelling.

Move over or face the consequences but if you give me the finger or flash your high beams at me I swear I’ll go you with a hammer!

You’re right, Mr Brace probably shouldn’t have been driving. Although, if his mirrors were set up correctly, and assuming he did actually check them (haha), he should have been able to avoid the near miss.

As an aside, from your account above it appears you may have been driving in the right hand lane while not overtaking. If that was the case, were you being selfish, careless or just an arsehole?