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Slapping a child in Woden

By dazzab - 7 February 2011 79

I was sitting outside Woden Plaza yesterday enjoying a cold drink and just watching the world go by.

I noticed a boy about 7 years old walking down a flight of stairs from the car park. His father (I assume) briskly walked past him and slapped him so hard across the back of the head that it made quite a loud sound which shocked me. The boy started to cry of course and just stood there while his father walked across the street and in to the shops with the meanest look I’ve seen in quite some time but no other reaction whatsoever.

Shortly afterwards the kids mother (again I’m assuming) came down the stairs behind him with a baby and younger boy in tow and yelled, ‘that’s what you get for being a naughty boy’ dragging him down the stairs with the rest of them. Just as they walked in front of me the older boy turned around and punched his little brother very hard obviously still quite upset which Mum ignored.

I have no idea what went on to cause this domestic but I can honestly say that if that kid gets slapped like that on a regular basis then I think he’s going to end up physically injured, not to mention the psychological impact. All I could think at the time was, ‘no wonder so many kids end up in such a mess’.

I left feeling quite helpless and sad.

What’s Your opinion?


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Davo111 6:44 pm 23 Feb 11

Fanfan said :

What a shame.

old thread is old.

Fanfan 5:50 pm 23 Feb 11

Rangi said :

LMR said :

The upside is that with some parental discipline he may learn to respect authority and not end up a hoodie wearing thug robbing people and stealing cars. +1 for responsibe parenting.

or

if he gets smacked really hard in the back ot the head often enough and hard enough he might get a nice brain injury, that will learn him

or

it may teach him that physical attacks on people weaker than you are ok, and he can hit (bully) his siblings and classmates

or

it may teach him that excessive physical assults are the way to parent and abuse his future children in the same way, i.e. assuming the brain damage hasn’t affected his ability to breed, and he is not in jail for violence

For the record I am pro-smacking as a form of disipline, my children have been smacked. But come on surely you can do better than slapping a kid really hard in the back of the head.

I do think a well placed smack (as oppsed to a vicious) is sometimes needed and works well.

Davo111 said :

Probably more effective than putting him on the naughty step

Yeah worked great, he immediately conformed and didn’t punch his brother or nothing…oh wait…

Totally agree, anger generates anger. Kids who are hit by their parents only learn one thing: Hitting is permitted. What will happen? they will hit their own kids in return as they become adults.
What a shame.

Calamity 4:07 pm 15 Feb 11

Smacking a kids bottom is one thing, hitting/slapping/punching/knocking a child in the head is not acceptable. Not unless you think it’s acceptable for your child to do the same when someone else’s behaviour displeases him. If you need to use physical pain to get your point across, you’re doing it wrong – simple as that.

WonderfulWorld 9:30 pm 11 Feb 11

Going back to the op – once I was told a story of a young child being pulled by its ear across the car park of a local supermarket, the (perceived) parent was also yelling abuse (which was not understood as the language was unknown to the person telling the tale who only speaks English), slapping the child consistently across the legs and head. This traumatised the story teller and several others crossing the car park that all stopped – they all did nothing. The reactions of people going about their business as opposed to those being asked to stop and think how they would react and could help or not is obviously quite different.
I feel this thread has been morphed into one which either condones or otherwise, hitting a child (or in some threads other people).
You reacted how you reacted. You may be off loading some guild for not reacting and sticking up for the child, but I think your reaction is not to be under estimated given the circumstances

Pommy bastard 3:16 pm 11 Feb 11

Haha your explanation of each one is so ridiculous! Each post gave the very strong impression that it’s acceptable to hit a child in the head.

Without any of them ever mentioning; “slapping a child on* the head” too, or even offering any justification for the slap either. We have some very devious writers here.

*Ps, if someone had slapped a child “in” the head as you suggest, then there would have been some explaining to do.

PBO 2:22 pm 11 Feb 11

dundle said :

PBO said :

there needs to be more of this. We live in a society now where children are wrapped on cotton wool and dont get to learn things for themselves. Bring back the cane i say.

Haha your explanation of each one is so ridiculous! Each post gave the very strong impression that it’s acceptable to hit a child in the head.

Where did i say anything about hitting a child in the head? I said bring back the cane, if you copped the cane in the head when you were at school then you probably went to a bad school.

dundle 1:59 pm 11 Feb 11

Pommy bastard said :

LMR said :

The upside is that with some parental discipline he may learn to respect authority and not end up a hoodie wearing thug robbing people and stealing cars. +1 for responsibe parenting.

PBO said :

there needs to be more of this. We live in a society now where children are wrapped on cotton wool and dont get to learn things for themselves. Bring back the cane i say.

Davo111 said :

Probably more effective than putting him on the naughty step

Of your three examples Jim.

One is a recognition that there may be an upside to this.

One is a tongue in cheek repudiation.

One is recognition that there may be less effectivwe way of disciplining achild.

None seek to justify the act of slapping a child across the head none support yoru assertion that anyone has claimed;

“Man hits young child hard in head = child deserved it, should be more of it.”

Haha your explanation of each one is so ridiculous! Each post gave the very strong impression that it’s acceptable to hit a child in the head.

scorpio63 2:40 am 10 Feb 11

A smack or blow to the head whether it be the front side or back is child abuse given that an injury in all likelihood is sustained near or to the brain or skull tissue.

If a parent feels the need to smack their child on any part of the body, it should be on the leg or backside.

A gulf exists between ‘hitting’ and ‘smacking’ where it is done and so forth.

Little wonder other Australians comment on Canberra people, I hope most of you who posted the comments are young enough to learn and know better before you give birth to kids.

For all of the older posters agreeing with the parents’ abuse of the alleged 7 year old, you were obviously products of child abuse yourselves, taking such hard abusive support and agreement.

jayskette 8:37 pm 09 Feb 11

My problem with this situation is 1) why wasnt the kid smacked immediately after the offense 2) Kids should always be smacked on the arms/legs or buttocks and no where else!

Pommy bastard 6:22 pm 09 Feb 11

LMR said :

The upside is that with some parental discipline he may learn to respect authority and not end up a hoodie wearing thug robbing people and stealing cars. +1 for responsibe parenting.

PBO said :

there needs to be more of this. We live in a society now where children are wrapped on cotton wool and dont get to learn things for themselves. Bring back the cane i say.

Davo111 said :

Probably more effective than putting him on the naughty step

Of your three examples Jim.

One is a recognition that there may be an upside to this.

One is a tongue in cheek repudiation.

One is recognition that there may be less effectivwe way of disciplining achild.

None seek to justify the act of slapping a child across the head none support yoru assertion that anyone has claimed;

“Man hits young child hard in head = child deserved it, should be more of it.”

Jim Jones 3:52 pm 09 Feb 11

Pommy bastard said :

No one has justified smacking a kid in the head

LMR said :

The upside is that with some parental discipline he may learn to respect authority and not end up a hoodie wearing thug robbing people and stealing cars. +1 for responsibe parenting.

PBO said :

there needs to be more of this. We live in a society now where children are wrapped on cotton wool and dont get to learn things for themselves. Bring back the cane i say.

Davo111 said :

Probably more effective than putting him on the naughty step

etc.

Pommy bastard 2:43 pm 09 Feb 11

No one has justified smacking a kid in the head Jim, that’s just you doing your “creative writing”.

The use of such phraseology, (as per norm; blown out of all perspective and as melodramatic as an American Soap Opera) to justify “any violence” is your creation, your idea, and your perspective, and yours alone. It reflects poorly on you.

I see Mubarak is the new Hitler for you, or is that you trying to avoid Godwin’s law?

The post I replied to was ambiguous, I paraphrased it in my reply, I’m sorry if that was too complex for you to understand.

dj_andy_g 2:23 pm 09 Feb 11

I only wish that I was allowed to slap other people’s children. Kids behavior in public these days is terrible – yes, that’s a generalisation, but it’s not one that I’d make if it wasn’t true for a vast majority of those that I see. There is no decorum or etiquette, be it a supermarket, doctor surgery or bus.

Seriously, I don’t if I care for corporal punishment personally, but I’m happy for parents to do whatever is necessary to get their kids the hell out of my way.

Jim Jones 1:41 pm 09 Feb 11

Pommy bastard said :

Any parent who uses corporal punishment against a child, is only teaching that child that it’s OK to inflict pain upon others.

Any parent who uses corporal punishment against a child, is teaching that child a great deal more than it’s OK to inflict pain upon others, they are also teaching the child the consequences of actions, the fact that there are some lines which should not be crossed, and that even parents are human and sometimes will to resort to extreme measures if provoked sufficiently.

What a wonderfully ambiguous justification for smacking a kid in the head.

That paragraph would also work wonderfully as justification for almost any kind of violence, what with all the vague mutterings about ‘consequences of actions’, ‘lines which should not be crossed’ and ‘extreme measures if provoked sufficiently’.

Hell, send it to Mubarak in Egypt, he could probably use some of that kinda thing around about now.

Pommy bastard 1:16 pm 09 Feb 11

Any parent who uses corporal punishment against a child, is only teaching that child that it’s OK to inflict pain upon others.

Any parent who uses corporal punishment against a child, is teaching that child a great deal more than it’s OK to inflict pain upon others, they are also teaching the child the consequences of actions, the fact that there are some lines which should not be crossed, and that even parents are human and sometimes will to resort to extreme measures if provoked sufficiently.

Sgt.Bungers 12:22 pm 09 Feb 11

Any parent who uses corporal punishment against a child, is only teaching that child that it’s OK to inflict pain upon others. Anyone who physically disciplines their child should not be surprised when that child starts “physically disciplining” people who he or she disagrees with.

“When the chips are down” is a fantastic presentation by Richard Lavoie, that scratches the surface on how to raise a child with learning disabilities. The one hour video is both funny, educational, and brings up aspects of looking after children, learning disabled or not, that had never crossed my mind.

Any person, parent or not, who has an opinion on this subject should watch it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8959233021670235795

http://ppp.wikispaces.com/file/view/When%2Bthe%2BChips%2BAre%2BDown%2Bby%2BRick%2BLavoie.pdf

chewy14 12:06 pm 09 Feb 11

Pommy Bastard,
I looked but the closest I could find was PBO’s post at #5:

PBO said :

Diggety said :

“I left feeling quite helpless and sad.” boo hoo.

It’s none of your business.

+1, there needs to be more of this. We live in a society now where children are wrapped on cotton wool and dont get to learn things for themselves. Bring back the cane i say.

Although it is a bit general.
Then there is a large number of posts with people complaining about other posters supposed support of child abuse.

A little bit of sense in this argument would be:
– very few posters would think hitting a child in the back of the head is a good form of discipline.
– some posters think smacking a child ever is bad.
– some posters think smacking a child is good if used properly.
– some posters like overreacting

Pommy bastard 11:41 am 09 Feb 11

So Jim, can you please give us the post number where someone said;

Diggety said :

“2. Man hits young child hard in head = child deserved it, should be more of it.”

There’s only two pages, so it shouldn’t be hard for you to give us the number.

beejay76 11:34 am 09 Feb 11

Diggety said :

I can’t understand why you persist on distorting facts.

“2. Man hits young child hard in head = child deserved it, should be more of it.” where exactly did you read this?

I can’t ‘persist’ in distorting facts when it’s my first comment!

And obviously it isn’t a direct quote or I would have quoted it, so I will spell it out for you. Those defending the behaviour are saying that whacking a child in the head is “discipline”. This usually means the child did something to need the discipline. Perhaps they have a strange definition that I’m unaware of, but in general positive punishment (the introduction of an unpleasant stimulus into an individual’s environment for the purposes of behaviour modification) is in response to a behaviour that the parent wants to eradicate. Hence “the child deserved it” or you could equally say “asked for it” or “needed it”.

On to the second part, these types of comments on here are mostly promoting a strongly disciplined upbringing: hence “more of it”.

I don’t think it’s particularly distorted. It just looks ugly when it’s spelled out, doesn’t it?

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