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By johnboy 13 March 2009 59

One of the advantages of an economic downturn is knowing you can hit your staff with things and they won’t run away to other jobs.

Taking advantage of that, Katy Gallagher has announced that the hard smoking staff of ACT Health facilities will need to give up smoking or hike to the edge of their facility’s grounds if they want to light up, from 1 May.

    “ACT Health will provide staff who smoke with free nicotine replacement therapy and they will be able to start this therapy before the policy comes into effect in May this year.”

    “Patients admitted to Canberra Hospital who smoke will be assisted by ACTHealth to manage their nicotine dependence while at the hospital through nicotine replacement therapy.”

More disabled smoke alarms, great.


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peterh 11:50 pm 14 Mar 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

So, Im confused, is banning smoking ‘wrong’ or ‘right’? You say its a filthy habit, etc which youd like to see banned, so I presume you think banning smoking is ‘right’. Does that mean banning alcohol is ‘right’ too, or ‘wrong’ because it fits your equation?

I didn’t make an assertion either way, I just said I’d like to see it banned.. As for your alcohol comment, go back and reread the second paragraph of the same post.

before quitting the evil drink, and spending all of my hard earned on the pokies, reducing me to beg for grog from mates who probably won’t acknowledge me even now,Alcohol and gambling had a very heavy price on my life. Not as heavy as the effect smoking will have on kids in the future. ban tobacco, not for me, but for the thousands of kids who will be our future.

I want an easy solution to quit smoking, but, after many, many different treatments, I still cling to the addiction like a life raft. and i don’t know why. Don’t force the next generation into this addiction hell.

p1 11:49 pm 14 Mar 09

I used to visit pubs and clubs on a regular basis (3-4 times a week). I cant remember being to a club since the anti-smoking laws were introduced

I have been going to pubs more now that smoking is banned. Most people I know have a similar opinion.

Might be different result in the pokie going crowd though.

Igglepiggle 9:44 pm 14 Mar 09

gun street girl said :

Igglepiggle said :

The nurses will be up in arms!

Indeed! Tea breaks will probably be extended if the hardcore smokers have to hike down all the way down to Yamba Drive to have a puff…

I am sure they will continue to sit in the garden between the main and maternity buildings creating a curtain of smoke for the rest of the staff to walk through on their way into work.

Might reduce the number of antenatal patients sitting in their fluffy slippers in the gutter out the front of maternity smoking though..

So, Im confused, is banning smoking ‘wrong’ or ‘right’? You say its a filthy habit, etc which youd like to see banned, so I presume you think banning smoking is ‘right’. Does that mean banning alcohol is ‘right’ too, or ‘wrong’ because it fits your equation?

I didn’t make an assertion either way, I just said I’d like to see it banned.. As for your alcohol comment, go back and reread the second paragraph of the same post.

dvaey 8:36 pm 14 Mar 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

I’d love to see it banned. It’s a fcking filthy habit, that directly effects others, and provides no real benefit to anyone (except tobacco company shareholders).

And before people insert the usual stupid responses of “well X is dangerous/unhealthy/stupid why don’t we ban that too”, just remember what your mum taught you: two wrongs don’t make a right.

So, Im confused, is banning smoking ‘wrong’ or ‘right’? You say its a filthy habit, etc which youd like to see banned, so I presume you think banning smoking is ‘right’. Does that mean banning alcohol is ‘right’ too, or ‘wrong’ because it fits your equation?

peterh said :

you can’t tell me that the nicotine replacement therapy being forced on the staff and patients, regardless of whether they want to quit or not, is funded by smokers only, we are going to fund this initiative, smokers and non smokers alike and it seems a lot easier to ban tobacco, and be done with it.

Id presume that since 50% of what smokers pay for a pack of cigarettes goes into anti-smoking/health budgets (apparently), that smokers would presumably be paying their fair share. Imagine how much of a hole would be left in the health budget if you suddenly lost $5 for every pack of smokes sold, so a pack-a-day smoker contributes ~$35/week towards the health budget, above and beyond what any other citizen contributes from their general taxes.

caf said :

I note with amusement that “patients” are no longer – instead we have “healthcare consumers”.

You obviously havent been to Emergency lately, lots of patience there, only a few consumers per hour though.

Danman said :

I enjoy going out more now that smoking is banned indoors, and it means I retain my aerobic fitness and will not get cancer from passive smoking.

Your comment made me stop and think. I used to visit pubs and clubs on a regular basis (3-4 times a week). I cant remember being to a club since the anti-smoking laws were introduced, except one time for a show, during which half the audience was out the front half the night smoking anyway. I know several people who feel the same way, theyre better off buying a 6-pack and sitting at home with mates (where you can smoke), than going to the local, throwing a few bucks in the pokies and contributing to the club scene and the various charities they support (exactly how much money has junior rugby lost in the ACT since vikings, ainslie, west belconnen, etc have banned smoking?).

johnboy 7:28 pm 14 Mar 09

Enough of the sales pitch.

Pragmatic1 7:25 pm 14 Mar 09

If it happens, you regain your freedom to smoke by just switching to an electronic cigarette. E-cigs are way better for your health (and wallet), anyway.

http://greensmokes.blogspot.com

Thumper 6:52 pm 14 Mar 09

What El said, and I’m not even a smoker.

gun street girl 6:48 pm 14 Mar 09

I’m sure Katy’s already organising a committee to address the viability of a shuttle bus. 😉

p1 6:15 pm 14 Mar 09

Indeed! Tea breaks will probably be extended if the hardcore smokers have to hike down all the way down to Yamba Drive to have a puff…

Maybe they can run a shuttle bus…

gun street girl 5:10 pm 14 Mar 09

Igglepiggle said :

The nurses will be up in arms!

Indeed! Tea breaks will probably be extended if the hardcore smokers have to hike down all the way down to Yamba Drive to have a puff…

el 4:58 pm 14 Mar 09

All of you wowsers can go and get stuffed – I enjoy smoking and will continue to do so. Judge me if you wish, you’re likely not worth knowing anyway.

Pommy bastard 3:45 pm 14 Mar 09

Jakez, I can tell you why I stared smoking, despite all the numerous drawbacks to it. I was raised in a house with two heavy smoking parents, lung cancer eventually doing for my old man. I was addicted to smoking before I even stuck a ciggy in my mouth.

Also, in days of yore smoking was heavily advertised and promoted. I can remember going to watch a cricket match, and the sponsors had young ladies going around giving a way free smokes (Benson and Hedges). Even today, does not young Casey Stoner have a motorbike covered in smoking sponsorship?

jakez 3:39 pm 14 Mar 09

Pommy bastard said :

If tobacco was banned, it would not stop smoking.

It would very much hasten it’s end though. Can you imagine a tobacco pusher trying to tout his wares to a potential new client?

“Try some of this, it’s expensive, makes you stink, gives you foul breath, and the only outcome of using it is cancer. But here’s the best bit, you get absolutely no buzz out of it whatsoever, until you’re totally addicted, and then you only get a buzz from it when you smoke more to stop you craving it! Good shit maaaan.”

It’s a wonder anyone even started smoking in the first place considering how unnappealing it is.

…hmm

jakez 3:38 pm 14 Mar 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

I’d love to see it banned. It’s a fcking filthy habit, that directly effects others, and provides no real benefit to anyone (except tobacco company shareholders).

And before people insert the usual stupid responses of “well X is dangerous/unhealthy/stupid why don’t we ban that too”, just remember what your mum taught you: two wrongs don’t make a right.

My mother doesn’t force me not to do them though, now that I am over the age of 18. Who said you could take her place?

Incidentally, in a forum type situation, it is usually considered germane to present your points as a rebuttal, if they have been referred to in a previous post.

Pommy bastard 8:08 am 14 Mar 09

If tobacco was banned, it would not stop smoking.

It would very much hasten it’s end though. Can you imagine a tobacco pusher trying to tout his wares to a potential new client?

“Try some of this, it’s expensive, makes you stink, gives you foul breath, and the only outcome of using it is cancer. But here’s the best bit, you get absolutely no buzz out of it whatsoever, until you’re totally addicted, and then you only get a buzz from it when you smoke more to stop you craving it! Good shit maaaan.”

Good point.

p1 12:14 am 14 Mar 09

and lots of stupid dangerous fun things ARE banned (speeding, fireworks, heroin, etc), so it would hardly be a new idea.

I’d love to see it banned. It’s a fcking filthy habit, that directly effects others, and provides no real benefit to anyone (except tobacco company shareholders).

And before people insert the usual stupid responses of “well X is dangerous/unhealthy/stupid why don’t we ban that too”, just remember what your mum taught you: two wrongs don’t make a right.

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