Speed Checks and Signage

Greywolf20k 23 June 2011 155

Firstly can I say that I have huge respect for our men and woman in blue and they do a great job. Driving around today I noticed a police car doing speed checks about 100 metres from a speed sign from 80km to 60km and I started to wonder what the distance is for these checks to be done from a speed sign.

Is there a legislation that governs this and should people be slamming their breaks on as they pass these signs to adhere to the road rules? I am sure the officers that were doing the checks are aware of the laws but you never know.


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Monomyth Monomyth 1:35 pm 29 Jun 11

My driving instructor told me you had to be doing the speed limit when you get to the sign, and not afterward, so whether it’s 1 metre or 100, it’ still lawful. A Canberran driving actully FOLLOWING this rule is a different matter all together!

shadow boxer shadow boxer 6:10 pm 27 Jun 11

Disinformation said :

shadow boxer said :

Wikipedia is your friend,

I knew what the term meant well over ten years ago. The idea was to see if the user knew what it was. It’s a bit lame to ask for a meaning on the Internet when you could just type the term into google. Realistically though, if the general brainpower of the average Internet users was slightly greater, it would kill a lot of online forums.. Why should people read an instruction manual, or search for an answer when they can go to a forum, type a question in and then wait for some patient fool to encourage their lack of self help by telling them what they want to know?

Well the op used it correctly so you would assume he did

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 5:18 pm 27 Jun 11

Postalgeek said :

1-Without knowing the intersection in question, generally the approaches to pedestrians crossings are unobscured so I wouldn’t immediately accept the assertion that the cyclist came out of ‘nowhere’

2- technically if you had hit the car in front of you you would have only had yourself to blame.

3-car drivers failing to slow for or even observe pedestrian crossings is more of a problem than cyclists riding across them.

The crossing near the O’Connor shops has parking spaces very close to it on the same side of the road as the shops. When driving along Macpherson St, towards Lyenham (shops on your right) cyclists and pedestrians can be obscured from view by parked cars next to All Bar Nun. They can be two or three steps on to the crossing before being visible. If a cyclist rode across quickly then they could easily surprise an oncoming motorist.

However, you’re right in point 3, though and it’s generally good practice to be extra vigilant and exercise more caution than usual when approaching this particular crossing (or any others like it).

Spideydog Spideydog 5:00 pm 27 Jun 11

Disinformation said :

if the general brainpower of the average Internet users was slightly greater, it would kill a lot of online forums..

Nooooo, say it isn’t so ……….

Disinformation Disinformation 4:51 pm 27 Jun 11

shadow boxer said :

Wikipedia is your friend,

I knew what the term meant well over ten years ago. The idea was to see if the user knew what it was. It’s a bit lame to ask for a meaning on the Internet when you could just type the term into google. Realistically though, if the general brainpower of the average Internet users was slightly greater, it would kill a lot of online forums.. Why should people read an instruction manual, or search for an answer when they can go to a forum, type a question in and then wait for some patient fool to encourage their lack of self help by telling them what they want to know?

johnboy johnboy 10:22 am 27 Jun 11

Well, for those taking such an interest in my life, I only sold the car last year, and I do drive other people’s cars reasonably often.

Classified Classified 10:21 am 27 Jun 11

(Actually, I’m lucky I double checked that last post, because I made a typo originally that referred to ‘feces’ rather than ‘faces’)…:)

Classified Classified 10:20 am 27 Jun 11

I always thought a fascist was someone who discriminated based on faces.

shadow boxer shadow boxer 10:15 am 27 Jun 11

Wikipedia is your friend, the meaning of the word has changed from the literal.

The word fascist is sometimes used to denigrate people, institutions, or groups that would not describe themselves as ideologically fascist, and that may not fall within the formal definition of the word. The Fascist party that developed in Italy in the 1920s rigidly enforced conservative values and behavior norms during the Mussolini regime. As a political epithet, fascist was subsequently used in an anti-authoritarian sense to emphasize the common ideology of governmental suppression of individual freedom, as shared by other groups on the extreme right. Eventually members of those right wing groups, and other sympathizers, began to broaden the use of fascist and confuse the meaning by applying the term to groups on the far left that strongly advocate behavior that promotes respect for those who deviate from perceived norms and/or advocate participation in the development of opportunities for oppressed people. It has also been applied to a broad range of people and groups, including people of many religious faiths, particularly fundamentalist groups. The individual, institution, or group(s) called fascist often find the use of the term in this way to be highly offensive and inappropriate.

In this sense, the word fascist is intended to mean “oppressive”, “intolerant”, “chauvinist”, “genocidal”, “dictatorial”, “racist”, or “aggressive” – all concepts that are allegedly inspired by the ideology of actual fascism, and pervasive through fascist states. One might accuse an inconveniently placed police roadblock as being a “fascist tactic” for its perceived oppression or interloping, or an overly authoritarian teacher as being “a total fascist”. Terms like Nazi and Hitlerite, are often used in similar contexts.

Classified Classified 10:11 am 27 Jun 11

Henry82 said :

Classified said :

And also because (also by your own admission) you don’t own a car, hence I wouldn’t expect you to do much regular driving anymore.

It’s possible to drive regularly without owning a car. Also, you can still get pulled over for speeding on a bike.

Possible, but both are unlikely.

Spideydog Spideydog 10:07 am 27 Jun 11

Mr Gillespie said :

http://www.theherald.com.au/blogs/jeff-corbett/speedchecking-intimidation/2200922.aspx

Read this. You might find this enlightening.

By the way, I had *NOTHING* to do with this article.

Enlightenment, lol Yup another bloke having a whinge because he got done speeding.

I do agree however that 3km/h tolerance is ridiculous.

Disinformation Disinformation 9:29 am 27 Jun 11

Mr Gillespie said :

Go back to Russia or whatever repressed country you’re from. This is a free country. Fascists aren’t welcome here.

Since 1998, I have questioned every person who has used the word “Fascist” to define what one actually is. Not one person has ever been able to tell me. This leads me to believe that it’s a gratuitously used word and although I can’t prove Mr Gillespie doesn’t know the definition of a fascist, I’m betting that he’ll come back with an amalgamation of what google can provide….

How about it, Mr Gillespie. What IS a facist?

Gigantor Gigantor 9:05 am 27 Jun 11

What I get from this post is that the OP thinks the government is to relient on the penilties from traffic infringments, and needs and likes to maximise this revenue to plug budget holes (same for councils and parking meters / tickets) Just my thoughts

KeenGolfer KeenGolfer 7:02 am 27 Jun 11

johnboy said :

I don’t get angry about enforcement, and that’s the difference.

I like to think my risk management (which means very rarely speeding as well) is why it’s been over a decade since my last ticket.

Exactly. I haven’t had a speeding ticket since 1995 (116 in 100 zone in NSW) and in that time I’ve travelled I don’t know how many hundreds of thousands of kilometres. I’ve owned high performance cars and motorbikes as well for a lot of that time. It’s your choice to speed so don’t complain if you get caught. Use a bit of nouse and it’s not difficult to avoid speeding tickets.

Henry82 Henry82 12:21 am 27 Jun 11

Classified said :

And also because (also by your own admission) you don’t own a car, hence I wouldn’t expect you to do much regular driving anymore.

It’s possible to drive regularly without owning a car. Also, you can still get pulled over for speeding on a bike.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 10:54 pm 26 Jun 11

LSWCHP said :

Classified said :

Mr Gillespie said :

The law against riding bikes across zebra crossings.

That’s one I’d like to see enforced. Especially at the bloody crossing in O’Connor.

Christ yes. I was motoring along in traffic yesterday when a dickhead on a bike flashed out of nowhere onto a pedestrian crossing, forcing the guy in front of me to emergency brake. I had to do likewise to avoid hitting him, which upset the hell out of my three sons as their books and computer games flew everywhere.

Dickhead cyclist blithely rode off into the distance without stopping, and apparently without being aware of how close he’d come to being turned into a red mess on the road.

Dickheads assume all shapes and forms, and cyclists who act in unpredictable ways do themselves no favors, but having said that:

1-Without knowing the intersection in question, generally the approaches to pedestrians crossings are unobscured so I wouldn’t immediately accept the assertion that the cyclist came out of ‘nowhere’

2- technically if you had hit the car in front of you you would have only had yourself to blame.

3-car drivers failing to slow for or even observe pedestrian crossings is more of a problem than cyclists riding across them.

Jono Jono 10:33 pm 26 Jun 11

LSWCHP said :

Christ yes. I was motoring along in traffic yesterday when a dickhead on a bike flashed out of nowhere onto a pedestrian crossing, forcing the guy in front of me to emergency brake. I had to do likewise to avoid hitting him, which upset the hell out of my three sons as their books and computer games flew everywhere.

Dickhead cyclist blithely rode off into the distance without stopping, and apparently without being aware of how close he’d come to being turned into a red mess on the road.

Hmm – dickhead cyclist, unquestionably.

But what about the dickhead drivers? The one in front was approaching a pedestrian crossing, being well aware in this town that there are stupid cyclists and stupid pedestrians likely to to appear on such a crossing without warning, but had to slam on the brakes when such a predictable event happened – and the one behind, also approaching the pedestrian crossing and had to slam on the brakes due to the same astonishing lack of road sense.

Watson Watson 9:39 pm 26 Jun 11

LSWCHP said :

Classified said :

Mr Gillespie said :

The law against riding bikes across zebra crossings.

That’s one I’d like to see enforced. Especially at the bloody crossing in O’Connor.

Christ yes. I was motoring along in traffic yesterday when a dickhead on a bike flashed out of nowhere onto a pedestrian crossing, forcing the guy in front of me to emergency brake. I had to do likewise to avoid hitting him, which upset the hell out of my three sons as their books and computer games flew everywhere.

Dickhead cyclist blithely rode off into the distance without stopping, and apparently without being aware of how close he’d come to being turned into a red mess on the road.

Not saying it’s cool for cyclist to cross pedestrian crossing without looking or slowing down, but isn’t there a sign advising you to drive 20kph? I virtually come to a stop there, not because of the cyclists, but because I once nearly hit a couple of joggers that I only saw when they were almost touching my bonnet. Stupid thick frame of my stupid Astra! I’ve had a few near misses at pedestrian crossings actually with pedestrians apparently materialising out of thin air, so I always slow down to less than 20, and look both ways at least twice before I drive on. Not much chance of having to do an emergency brake when you slow down that much…

Classified Classified 8:36 pm 26 Jun 11

johnboy said :

I don’t get angry about enforcement, and that’s the difference.

I like to think my risk management (which means very rarely speeding as well) is why it’s been over a decade since my last ticket.

And also because (also by your own admission) you don’t own a car, hence I wouldn’t expect you to do much regular driving anymore.

LSWCHP LSWCHP 8:32 pm 26 Jun 11

Classified said :

Mr Gillespie said :

The law against riding bikes across zebra crossings.

That’s one I’d like to see enforced. Especially at the bloody crossing in O’Connor.

Christ yes. I was motoring along in traffic yesterday when a dickhead on a bike flashed out of nowhere onto a pedestrian crossing, forcing the guy in front of me to emergency brake. I had to do likewise to avoid hitting him, which upset the hell out of my three sons as their books and computer games flew everywhere.

Dickhead cyclist blithely rode off into the distance without stopping, and apparently without being aware of how close he’d come to being turned into a red mess on the road.

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