Suicide - The Hidden Toll

Pandy said :

Whooooshhhh!!!!

Miss87 is ’87 when you were born? Well you are then way too young to remember this classic from 1970

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVUXPjFWfX4&feature=related

Just a silly comment overall, on a sensitive topic as such . And by looking at the 87,000 + world wide people that do fondly remember this “classic” scene in mash, and seek it on youtube , Miss87 and I and the remaining are not one of them and can easily misinterpret your comment as in poor taste, if that was not your main objective in the 1st place Whooosh!

Whooooshhhh!!!!

Miss87 is ’87 when you were born? Well you are then way too young to remember this classic from 1970

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVUXPjFWfX4&feature=related

Pandy said :

Suicide is painless. It brings on many changes.

Painless for who? The person killing themselves? Or friends and family?
You obviously haven’t had anyone close to you complete the act of suicide.

cranky said :

I have long realised that some motor vehicle ‘accidents’ are actually suicide.

These events are tallied with the ACT road toll, and, knowing little of the coronial process, are forever listed thus, even if a suicide is strongly indicated in the coronial findings.

Unfortunately, it probably serves the gov’s purpose to keep these deaths as road kill. You can make money from promoting speeding as the cause of road accidents, and applying fines accordingly. Deaths on the road as a result of medical catastophe are only grudgingly removed from the statistics, after being automatically included in the road toll figures.

The wisdom of Job would be required to decide if suicide deaths are removed from the road toll statistics, and as to whether, as noted previously, publication of these findings might promote copycat deeds.

I disagree, there was one just this year, where a old mate drove into the wall at Parliament house, people on here were upset that it was not listed as part of the road toll… It even said in the paper that it wasn’t been listed as part of the road toll.

Suicide is painless. It brings on many changes.

troll-sniffer said :

Interesting I thought the push to keep it out of the media hype was to dissuade copycats.

PersonallY i don’t have a problem with anyone who wants to top themselves, if life’s not that good then they might be better not being in it. Had at least one mate who needed to rest in peace, and if I get to that stage I may well want to make my own life choice.

But good on you for saving the ones who end up appreciating your efforts.

The “copycat” concern is also the “cop out” concern. I understand talking about the details of how someone takes their life might not be very smart but I believe we need to start talking about the reasons why someone takes their own life.
The laissez-faire approach of whatever will be, will be is also another example of a “cop out”. Maybe if large numbers of people, particularly young people start choosing to take their own life then maybe there’s something the rest of us need to be paying more attention to. Maybe “if life’s not that good” then maybe there’s something the rest of us could be doing to make life better for everyone? How many people need to die from suicide before Australian society decides that maybe something needs to done. Afterall, there just has to be one bad car accident at an intersection to generate enough concern to install a new set of traffic lights but an incidence of suicide hardly seems to raise an eyebrow. Oh that’s right, if someone chooses to take their own life then that’s their choice – why does this seem so callous?

Who would want to copycat without a reason, I’m sure most suicides would regret what they have done to themselves on the other side, I only hope people who consider suicide contact someone who can help them and not keep it to themselves.

I believe that they don’t report on suicides to stop other people deciding to commit suicide.

So if someone jumps in front of a train, they don’t always plaster the newspapers with “TRAIN DEATH”, they just keep it quiet so other people don’t start thinking “Hey, that’s a good idea!”

Tricky decision to make, I can see arguments on both sides so I’m staying on the fence.

I have long realised that some motor vehicle ‘accidents’ are actually suicide.

These events are tallied with the ACT road toll, and, knowing little of the coronial process, are forever listed thus, even if a suicide is strongly indicated in the coronial findings.

Unfortunately, it probably serves the gov’s purpose to keep these deaths as road kill. You can make money from promoting speeding as the cause of road accidents, and applying fines accordingly. Deaths on the road as a result of medical catastophe are only grudgingly removed from the statistics, after being automatically included in the road toll figures.

The wisdom of Job would be required to decide if suicide deaths are removed from the road toll statistics, and as to whether, as noted previously, publication of these findings might promote copycat deeds.

“Toll in Australia far out ways that of the Road Toll “

Weighs, not ways.

We are still a Monarchy so speak the Queen’s English.
Damned colonial cheek.