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The Greens go look at a bus, a double decker bus!

By johnboy - 2 February 2012 24

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The Greens’ Amanda Bresnan has shared the news they they’ve been inspecting a double decker bus.

“I was interested to learn that the showcased double decker can carry more passengers than the standard ACTION articulated bus, and is cheaper,” said ACT Greens Transport Spokesperson, Amanda Bresnan MLA.

“One of the issues the Greens are concerned about is peak-hour capacity problems in the ACTION network. It is unacceptable that Canberra’s Canberra commuters are left waiting as a full bus drives by their stop.

“I am interested to know if the Government has considered using double deckers to help ease overcrowding.

“The bus brought to Canberra today was also accessible for older people and people with disability. Issues of the vehicles height and bicycle racks would also need to be considered.

“What is certain is that the Government needs to do something about peak hour crowding; at least by expanding its fleet of high-capacity buses.

But would we have them red? Traditional orange? Or modish green?

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The Greens go look at a bus, a double decker bus!
Skyring 8:56 am 03 Feb 12

Ralph Nader, another Green, used to exhibit the same sort of look to give the impression that he had more important things on his mind than choosing the perfect wardrobe.

JC 6:59 am 03 Feb 12

Just what Canberra doesn’t need. Try more frequency first, might actually make it more attractive to catch the bus, rather than sitting around an interchange for an hour waiting for a bus.

Oh just realised that my local interchange (Belconnen) is no more so make that sitting around on a bus stop in the middle of the Belconnen towncentre. Real good incentive to catch the bus…. Not.

Nifty 6:12 pm 02 Feb 12

bitzermaloney said :

Amanda’s next trip is to Sydney to learn that trains carry more passengers than buses.

Sydney, as most people would be aware, has double decker trains. Yes, these are great for packing in more commuters but they do have one significant drawback. It takes a lot longer to get commuters on and off than it does with a well-designed single decker. Hence thetrain timetables in Sydney are now slower than they were with the original “red rattlers” 80 years ago.

The only way round this is to have separate entrances for the upper and lower decks and that means re-introducing bus conductors and doubling the labour costs. When Sydney Buses tried introducing driver-only double deck buses (the Atlanteans) in the early 1970s they ran into all sorts of strife because of this.

This is an idea that’s going nowhere like the abandoned yellow “mandala” (or is it “nirvana”) bus in Haig Park opposite the Shell servo. I suggest that the Greens get back to their pie in the sky notions about light rail, ‘cos if this is their idea of practical public transport, they’re going to get into all kinds of strife.

Innovation 5:47 pm 02 Feb 12

Why stop there…… http://www.freakingnews.com/Big-Bus-Pictures-30475.asp.

But seriously why stop there. What about these for lateral thinking?

1/ China’s bus on legs – http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/green-motoring/7930484/Giant-bus-which-drives-over-cars-planned-in-China.html

2/ Double decker articulated buses http://www.sfu.ca/person/dearmond/phono/London.tbus2049b.jpg?49,22

3/ Bi articulated buses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUU95szL0cQ&list=PLB5B1975295A41946&index=1&feature=plpp_video

Or, here’s an idea, perhaps just put more buses on major transport corridors, add some more stops and let people get off their slow and circuitous suburban route buses asap and onto the faster intertown routes.

Micky_P 5:30 pm 02 Feb 12

ML-585 said :

Don’t worry about the fact that ACTION’s depots are not capable of housing such a vehicle, and that some Bus Stations (Woden in particular) have height restrictions.

So before buying these buses, you would have to build a new depot somewhere (possibly at Mitchell/Gungahlin). Not so cheap now, are they? (That said, ACT Gov should be seriously looking at a new depot anyway – whether it be for double deckers, bi-artics or light rail.)

Perhaps The Greens should wait to see how ACTION makes use of its new articulated buses, due for delivery from July before calling for double deckers.

^^ This. The Greens would probably be for it though, it’s not like they care about a surplus.

devils_advocate 4:15 pm 02 Feb 12

shirty_bear said :

ML-585 said :

Don’t worry about the fact that ACTION’s depots are not capable of housing such a vehicle, and that some Bus Stations (Woden in particular) have height restrictions.

Nice to see the Greens have invested their usual level of research effort.

+1. Also I remember reading somewhere that double decker buses were much more prone to tipping over due to their relatively higher centre of gravity and required specialist driving ability. How do we rate the skills of the drivers of the current buses…?

shirty_bear 2:34 pm 02 Feb 12

ML-585 said :

Don’t worry about the fact that ACTION’s depots are not capable of housing such a vehicle, and that some Bus Stations (Woden in particular) have height restrictions.

Nice to see the Greens have invested their usual level of research effort.

Thumper 2:29 pm 02 Feb 12

Mod green.

Cool….

Deref 2:13 pm 02 Feb 12

bitzermaloney said :

Amanda’s next trip is to Sydney to learn that trains carry more passengers than buses.

If she was working for the Fed’s she’d have gone to go to London UK for the bus research and New York for trains… and Shelbyville for monorails.

Oh, gods – did you have to mention monorails? Now we’ll have the light rail brigade screaming for one.

zippyzippy 2:06 pm 02 Feb 12

ML-585 said :

Perhaps The Greens should wait to see how ACTION makes use of its new articulated buses, due for delivery from July before calling for double deckers.

Didn’t see anyone calling for double deckers.

That said, anything that could help with overcrowded buses would be appreciated. A number of times I’ve had a bus go by me in the morning because it’s full. And then the bus after that doesn’t have a bike rack for my bike. Starts to get pretty annoying.

bitzermaloney 2:05 pm 02 Feb 12

Amanda’s next trip is to Sydney to learn that trains carry more passengers than buses.

If she was working for the Fed’s she’d have gone to go to London UK for the bus research and New York for trains… and Shelbyville for monorails.

NoImRight 1:32 pm 02 Feb 12

DarkLadyWolfMother said :

I’d love to see these on the road, just because I like how they look. Though I’m curious how many roads they’d have to avoid because of bridges and the like.

I look forward to seeing them negotiate a few tight roundabouts at speed

ML-585 1:28 pm 02 Feb 12

Don’t worry about the fact that ACTION’s depots are not capable of housing such a vehicle, and that some Bus Stations (Woden in particular) have height restrictions.

So before buying these buses, you would have to build a new depot somewhere (possibly at Mitchell/Gungahlin). Not so cheap now, are they? (That said, ACT Gov should be seriously looking at a new depot anyway – whether it be for double deckers, bi-artics or light rail.)

Perhaps The Greens should wait to see how ACTION makes use of its new articulated buses, due for delivery from July before calling for double deckers.

DarkLadyWolfMother 1:24 pm 02 Feb 12

I’d love to see these on the road, just because I like how they look. Though I’m curious how many roads they’d have to avoid because of bridges and the like.

BicycleCanberra 1:16 pm 02 Feb 12

‘But would we have them red? Traditional orange? Or modish green?’

Red for red rapid! Blue for Blue rapid…etc. It would be difficult to run these through the suburbs though, with low power cables and the trees.

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