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Too many drunks getting arrested?

By johnboy - 22 October 2008 42

The Ombudsman has announced the release of their third report on ACT Policing’s dealings with the drunkards.

It comes out swinging:

    “More needs to be done to keep intoxicated people out of police custody”

And keeps it up throughout:

    “The report also recommends some changes to police training. Prof. McMillan said that ‘Being drunk in a public place has not been an offence in the ACT since 1983, yet police training still refers to the intoxication detention provisions as “street offences”. The law gives power to police to care for and protect intoxicated people, and that needs to be emphasised.’”

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Too many drunks getting arrested?
utah 10:18 pm 22 Oct 08

Prof. McMillan said that ‘Being drunk in a public place has not been an offence in the ACT since 1983…
By coincidence that was back when we were governed by the Federal Government, and when Bob Hawke was PM.

bd84 10:09 pm 22 Oct 08

More needs to be done to stop morons going out and getting themselves smashed off their face and then stumbling out and having the police arrest them. A couple of hundred dollar on the spot fine should do them.

Yes pubs/clubs should serve alcohol responsibly, but then it’s that easy for people to get around that through other people purchasing the alcohol. Self control is a good way of stopping yourself get arrested.

bigfeet 9:56 pm 22 Oct 08

jenny green said :

OK – perhaps not beaten up but injured due to what was perceived by the parties to be excessive use of force…

Yes…I notice that the report chooses in almost every case study to use ones which are by people who by their own admission are so drunk/stoned that they cannot actually remember what happened. But are sure they didn’t need to be taken away from whatever they were involved in…in fact they were leaving of their own accord…well…anyway they can’t remember…but that’s what they think they were doing…and if the evil police officer had just asked them to leave they would have.

jenny green 9:41 pm 22 Oct 08

OK – perhaps not beaten up but injured due to what was perceived by the parties to be excessive use of force…

Spideydog 9:32 pm 22 Oct 08

I read the report and there is nothing in there about beating people up before going to the watch house ??

123qwe 9:29 pm 22 Oct 08

“We’ve done this for a few years now without anyone causing any grief for themselves or anyone else.”

Perhaps someone will sacrifice themselves this year to get the real scoop!

johnboy 9:25 pm 22 Oct 08

123qwe said :

Perhaps some members of this site will get some first hand experience of police actions when dealing with drunkards on 01 November!

http://the-riotact.com/?p=9407

We’ve done this for a few years now without anyone causing any grief for themselves or anyone else.

jenny green 9:19 pm 22 Oct 08

bigfeet said :

jenny green said :

Posts crossed. I think Prof McM’s sentiments are commendable… Even obnoxious wankers have the right not to be beaten up when taken to the watch-house for sobering up…

Who said anything about them being beaten up? Cops don’t want to take stupid drunks into their custody, but sometimes they have no other option. There is no where else to take them, normally they ask their friends to take responsibilty for them and get them home, but that doesn’t always work, the public expects the cops to do something about people behaving unsociably in public, they are in a no-win situation.

What do you suggest?

Can you please post your address on line? Then instead of taking them to the watchhouse, they could all be dropped at your place.

Read the report.

fabforty 9:02 pm 22 Oct 08

Special G said :

Police are just dealing with the after effects of irresponsible service of alcohol. If clubs pulled their finger out then there would be less problems.

That said people will always be obnoxious wankers on the piss who need somewhere to cool their heels.

I agree. Clubs and pubs are continuing to serve people alcohol to the point where they are incoherent and hardly able to stand. They then throw them out onto the street where they are picking fights, abusive and unable to look after themselves. The police have to take them in for their own protection.

Police resources are much better used in preventing real crime rather than hoovering up drunks but that is, unfortunately, what they are required by law to do. Individuals and pubs need to take more responsibility for their actions. As does ACT Liquour Licencing – underage drinking is the least of your worries.

And to Jenny green’s obnoxious wanker friends – you no doubt know you are obnoxious wankers when you are pissed – so just stay home.

123qwe 9:01 pm 22 Oct 08

Perhaps some members of this site will get some first hand experience of police actions when dealing with drunkards on 01 November!

http://the-riotact.com/?p=9407

123qwe 8:54 pm 22 Oct 08

I have heard comments on radio recently in NSW about issuing on the spot fines for drunken fools in public. Good or bad thing?

I personally think intoxicated people deserve to be hit in the hip pocket if they are confirmed to be acting like a dickhead. However I don’t think a monetary fine will prevent the behaviour occurring in the first place.

It would be interesting to see how ‘dickheadedness’ would be defined in legislation.

The service of alcohol is one issue that needs greater debate. Everyone should be free to get on the gas as they see fit. However the people running the pubs should be held to account if their patrons are continually featuring on the dickheadedness radar of the police.

bigfeet 8:54 pm 22 Oct 08

jenny green said :

Posts crossed. I think Prof McM’s sentiments are commendable… Even obnoxious wankers have the right not to be beaten up when taken to the watch-house for sobering up…

Who said anything about them being beaten up? Cops don’t want to take stupid drunks into their custody, but sometimes they have no other option. There is no where else to take them, normally they ask their friends to take responsibilty for them and get them home, but that doesn’t always work, the public expects the cops to do something about people behaving unsociably in public, they are in a no-win situation.

What do you suggest?

Can you please post your address on line? Then instead of taking them to the watchhouse, they could all be dropped at your place.

jenny green 8:41 pm 22 Oct 08

Posts crossed. I think Prof McM’s sentiments are commendable… Even obnoxious wankers have the right not to be beaten up when taken to the watch-house for sobering up…

jenny green 8:31 pm 22 Oct 08

commendable sentiments…

Special G 8:31 pm 22 Oct 08

Police are just dealing with the after effects of irresponsible service of alcohol. If clubs pulled their finger out then there would be less problems.

That said people will always be obnoxious wankers on the piss who need somewhere to cool their heels.

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