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Tougher smoking laws on the cards.

By GnT - 15 October 2009 58

The government has tabled a bill cracking down even further on smoking. With the Greens likely to support it, it will mean no smoking anywhere food and drink is served, even in outdoor places.

At the risk of triggering some strong opinions, all I can say is thank goodness I will be able to enjoy the fresh air while eating al fresco.

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dvaey 11:23 pm 22 Oct 09

Hells_Bells74 said :

Dvaey, morph into a mum… [snip] ..that’s right, you probably remember from your own childhood? 😉

As kids, my parents never took my brother and I to shopping malls, to pubs or clubs, and the few times we were lucky enough to goto a nice restaurant, it was understood that if you played up youd cop it when you got home. Parents these days, are almost as irresponsible as the worst smokers. Maybe my parents were from the older generation that were responsible parents, which is whats lacking these days?

UrbanAdventure.org said :

I guess you’ve never had an asthma attack. If you did, you would not be asking me that question, trust me.
I still don’t understand why asthmatics can’t use reasonable force in self defence against smokers trying to kill them.

My brother has asthma and similar thoughts were given about people who insist on growing wattle and other irritating plants. If you want to live somewhere with pristine clean air, I might suggest a city of nearly 400,000 people is a bad place to start. If you insist on living in a big city, you have to learn to put up with air pollution from cars, trucks, industry, plant pollen, how much different is cigarette smoke?

el said :

The solution for pubs/venues that want smoking areas is to explicitly state that a certain area is a smoking area, and that NO FOOD is allowed to be served/consumed that area.

So, now as well as being told where we can/cant smoke, you think its also a good idea to tell people where they can/cant eat? Where do you draw the line? If I buy a chocolate bar or packet of chips from the bar, am I not allowed to consume them in the beer garden? Its one thing to say no smoking indoors, but if its a nice day outside, why should you be allowed to force smokers outside, but exclude diners from eatting in the same area? Not many pubs/clubs have two outdoor beer gardens, one for smoking and one for food. This is why businesses should be allowed to cater to their customers desires, rather than the government catering to a small minorities desires.

UrbanAdventure.org 10:31 pm 22 Oct 09

Jim Jones said :

UrbanAdventure.org said :

What about the right of non smokers to breathe?

How does people smoking stop you breathing?

I guess you’ve never had an asthma attack. If you did, you would not be asking me that question, trust me.
I still don’t understand why asthmatics can’t use reasonable force in self defence against smokers trying to kill them.

busgirl 8:22 pm 17 Oct 09

Katie said :

And it’s not all bad – after the ban on indoor smoking all you could smell at the phoenix was the stench of stale beer and sweaty, unwashed hobos.

…ha ha…it’s funny ’cause it’s true…

Hells_Bells74 6:14 pm 17 Oct 09

Dvaey, morph into a mum and you will soon learn the art of tuning out! Give the kid the ‘oh oh you’re in trouble look’. Learn to be on the parents side more (even if they are tuned out, they won’t notice you being sly to their kids then lol), they are sometimes handed devil like children with agendas of their own, that’s right, you probably remember from your own childhood? 😉

What kids? I like to say!

Yep failing that, don’t go to clubs and family restaurants, we like to be able to congregate somewhere us parents. Being a parent is on par to being a smoker sometimes.

Special G 12:57 pm 17 Oct 09

Dvaey – places you can go to avoid little kids – almost anywhere after 7pm. Try a bar – you know the ones who don’t allow minors in the place.

Smoking is a filthy habit – if you don’t like people thinking that of you then quit. Save a bucket load of cash , better health, being able to taste food and less mood swings when you are jonesing for a smoke.

el 12:52 pm 17 Oct 09

For what it’s worth, this legislation will bring Canberra into line with other cities.

The solution for pubs/venues that want smoking areas is to explicitly state that a certain area is a smoking area, and that NO FOOD is allowed to be served/consumed that area. It’s done elsewhere, no reason it can’t be done in Canberra too.

goose 7:24 am 17 Oct 09

Read the Easy Way to Stop Smoking by Allen Carr – after 24 years of smoking I stopped cold turkey and haven’t smoked for 3.5 years and will “NEVER” smoke again.

cleo 10:46 pm 16 Oct 09

That’s all good and well but what about the dirty diesel vans that let off offensive fumes, much worse than someone smoking around you.

Thumper 9:55 pm 16 Oct 09

just remember that nicotine is worse for you than heroin

Yes indeed. Now run along and let the adults talk…

Ryan 9:06 pm 16 Oct 09

Kramer said :

Yay! Now I can eat outside again!

Just waiting for them to ban smoking completely now (hint hint Greens).

Special G said :

Smoking is a disgusting habit. The last thing I need is some filthy smoker sitting downwind from me and and my kids and lighting up a cigar. Don’t care if people want to slowly kill themselves just don’t inflict it on other people.

Completely agree.

I agree that everyone has the right to choose whether or not they smoke, but to carry on this poisonous activity around the rest of us is just inconsiderate. I’m sick of walking out of a shopping centre through a pack of smokers.

el 7:50 pm 16 Oct 09

Inappropriate said :

Katie said :

When I used to smoke there was nothing better than a cold beer and a cigarette outside a pub on a sunny day. I still remember how magic it was and would hate to deprive any smokers out there from that experience. Unless you’ve been a smoker, you really wouldn’t understand the joy.

Would your argument work we were talking about cocaine and not cigarettes?

Your comment would carry some weight if cigarettes were illegal.

Grail 6:16 pm 16 Oct 09

Would any of you smokers mind if I injected heroin at the table? And since you’re smoking anyway, you won’t mind if I light up a reefer in the designated smoking area either will you?

If you’re going to complain about crack-downs on smoking, just remember that nicotine is worse for you than heroin or pot – and those two are already illegal.

Bunch of filthy drug addicts, the lot of you.

Postalgeek 3:40 pm 16 Oct 09

Katie said :

When I used to smoke there was nothing better than a cold beer and a cigarette outside a pub on a sunny day. I still remember how magic it was and would hate to deprive any smokers out there from that experience. Unless you’ve been a smoker, you really wouldn’t understand the joy.

You’re probably right. And I guess you could never understand the joy of a cold beer outside a pub on a sunny day without the smell of cigarettes drowning out your olfactory senses.

Katie 3:18 pm 16 Oct 09

Inappropriate, of course it would – a drug is a drug is a drug, all the rest of the bu11sh1t that comes into it is created by people, not the drug itself. I have no issue with other people using cocaine just as I have no issue with people smoking – I, myself, don’t do either and if cocaine were legal I likely still wouldn’t do. Who are you people to stop another person from making their own choices on what they can and can’t do just becuase you don’t like it???
Good grief!

p1 2:54 pm 16 Oct 09

Seems to me that most people who disagree with this “smoking around food” ban are upset about the restrictions of something which is legal. I have to things to say.

Urinating is a perfectly legal activity too, I think I’ll start doing it in outdoor eating areas,

and

While I am generally against the blanket prohibition of anything (especially addictive drugs, since people with addictions are notoriously bad at just saying no), I’m starting to think banning tobacco might just be cheaper then enforcing a million little laws designed to inconvenience people toward the same goal.

Jim Jones 2:44 pm 16 Oct 09

UrbanAdventure.org said :

What about the right of non smokers to breathe?

How does people smoking stop you breathing?

trevar 2:43 pm 16 Oct 09

UrbanAdventure.org said :

Besides, having a smoking section in a restraunt is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool.

LOL That’s my quote of the day! It’s going straight to my fave quotes on facebook…

Inappropriate 2:31 pm 16 Oct 09

Katie said :

When I used to smoke there was nothing better than a cold beer and a cigarette outside a pub on a sunny day. I still remember how magic it was and would hate to deprive any smokers out there from that experience. Unless you’ve been a smoker, you really wouldn’t understand the joy.

Would your argument work we were talking about cocaine and not cigarettes?

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