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Uh Oh, computers are more powerful than you’d think!

By DavoDavo 6 April 2010 13

CT over the weekend reported that ACT bus crashes had increased over the 2009 year compared to the 2008 year.

Our glorious leader and minister for buses retorted that it was untrue and the apparent increase was due to a new database.

Well I’m blowed, I’ve heard of computers doing strange things, but causing buses to crash??

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DavoDavo 2:44 pm 09 Apr 10

NickD said :

It seems reasonable to assume that Stanhope’s argument is that the government now has a new database that keeps better track of bus crashes than the old one did, and that the 2008 figure was unduly low due to problems in either reporting or recording accidents. This is actually a pretty normal thing to happen when data collections improve (for instance, the ABS recently reported a large increase in the number of suicides which was actually mainly attributable to the ABS using a better methodology of assembling these numbers).

No, really? I never would have guessed. 🙂

What I was alluding to was the fact that our Dear Jon (along with many other people in the media these days) doesn’t stop to think when he opens his mouth. Some of the statements made make me and my missus crack up. Cheap entertainment I suppose but it’s symptomatic of the general trend of saying something that, when thought about for a nanosecond, means something entirely different. But then, most people don’t think, even for a nanosecond, such is the world we now live in.

NickD 8:19 pm 07 Apr 10

As an aside, I was on an intertown bus this afternoon which had a TV display announcing the location of the next and upcoming stops. It was pretty snazzy.

Ryan 6:14 pm 07 Apr 10

merlin bodega said :

When oh when will we get a new ticketing system that does not rely on paper tickets and the mag strip on them?

In the next year. Testing is commencing shortly.

Skidbladnir 8:16 am 07 Apr 10

If it only happened on one bus, I’d be less annoyed. Once getting to work, once getting home, so at least part of the fleet is miscalibrated.
The morning bus driver was apologetic and said ACTION had no facility to refund, the evening one was a wholly different view of the situation, accusing maybe five passengers of lying, and trying to get an elderly woman to pay again.

Thumper 8:10 am 07 Apr 10

Database for accidents?

You could do it on an EXCEL spreadsheet.

Woody Mann-Caruso 9:58 pm 06 Apr 10

That blows, skid. I’d say try asking for a refund at an exchange office but it’s not worth the $2.40 to deal with these muppets. I’ll watch my ticket closely tomorrow.

On a bus the other day when the driver decided he’d go the wrong way and skip half his stops, including the hospital, in peak hour.

“Ehwarnwongeorfathorspl?”
“No, but there’s usually a lot of people who want to get on.”
“Fuggemaygangeanuvarunay.”

Sad thing is half the passengers thought it was hilarious and were well pleased they’d get home early. Mongas.

Ian 8:55 pm 06 Apr 10

#1 – another fine example of ACT Govt competence! Obviously the end of daylight savings was a surprise that ACTION had no knowledge of in advance?

Re the accidents, the database excuse is a crock obviously. I’d be surprised if the number of accidents ACTION is involved in requires much more than a spreadsheet to keep track of – perhaps a small Access database at a stretch.

NickD 8:05 pm 06 Apr 10

It seems reasonable to assume that Stanhope’s argument is that the government now has a new database that keeps better track of bus crashes than the old one did, and that the 2008 figure was unduly low due to problems in either reporting or recording accidents. This is actually a pretty normal thing to happen when data collections improve (for instance, the ABS recently reported a large increase in the number of suicides which was actually mainly attributable to the ABS using a better methodology of assembling these numbers).

merlin bodega 7:03 pm 06 Apr 10

Canberra buses continue to amaze. With ACTION bus routes already the longest distance between any two points in Canberra, the lack of calibration between the ticket machines on different buses shouldn’t come as any surprise. When oh when will we get a new ticketing system that does not rely on paper tickets and the mag strip on them? Its just a little bit out of date, a little bit cheap, a little bit hard to understand and a little bit like no-one is seriously running this system for the benefit of the passengers. I feel so sorry for the poor schmucks from out of town who try to follow it. A new ticketing system will allow the ACT to do the unthinkable – that is charge fares according to how far you travel and the time of day you do it.

merlin bodega 7:02 pm 06 Apr 10

Canberra buses continue to amaze. With ACTION bus routes already the longest distance between any two points in Canberra, the lack of calibration between the ticket machines on different buses shouldn’t come as any surprise. When oh when will we get a new ticketing system that does not rely on paper tickets and the mag strip on them? Its just a little bit out of date, a little bit cheap, a little bit hard to understand and a little bit like no-one is seriously running this system for the benefit of the passengers. I feel so sorry for the poor schmucks from out of town who try to follow it. A new ticketing system will allow the ACT to do teh unthinkable – that is charge fares according to how far you travel and the time of day you do it.

Ryan 6:37 pm 06 Apr 10

Skidbladnir said :

In other bus-computer-glitch news, transfer tickets are only valid for half an hour at the moment because the machines haven’t been daylight-savings calibrated properly.

Obviously it wouldn’t affect ALL buses, because then there wouldn’t be an issue. It sounds like it was just the second bus that hadn’t been corrected, and the first one had.

Ryan 6:35 pm 06 Apr 10

From what I’ve heard, with the new database, the ACTION definition of “incident” has changed somewhat.

A copy of said article can be found here: http://actbus.net/forum/index.php?topic=2380.msg21265#new

Skidbladnir 5:39 pm 06 Apr 10

In other bus-computer-glitch news, transfer tickets are only valid for half an hour at the moment because the machines haven’t been daylight-savings calibrated properly.
As in you will be charged twice if you need more than 30 minutes of travel time on multiple buses.
I know this because I had it happen today.

There are no refunds.

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