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Unwarranted speeding fines at Northbourne/London Circuit?

By Albigeois - 5 June 2009 79

Has anyone recently received a speeding fine for the Northbourne/London Circuit intersection?  I recieved four speeding fines in the last month. FOUR! 

I do not speed.  I have had my driver’s licence for 8 years and in that time I have never received a speeding fine, because I do not speed.

On May 14, 15, 19 and 24 I allegedly passed through the Northbourne Ave/London Circuit intersection at 69, 71, 70 and 69 km/h respectively.

It is true I passed through this intersection at the times indicated. I know the intersection well, although I no longer go through it regularly. I am aware of the speed limit and take care not to go over.

I cannot believe that I knowingly sped through this intersection on these occasions, and I am having a lot of trouble believing that I was in fact speeding. Is it possible the camera is out?

Has anyone had a similar experience at that intersection recently?

I know that a while ago there were cases in Sydney of a camera being out in the harbouor tunnel that meant people kept getting fines when they weren’t speeding. I honestly think this could be the case here… advice?

What’s Your opinion?


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Unwarranted speeding fines at Northbourne/London Circuit?
farq 11:04 am 05 Jun 09

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Clown Killer 10:47 am 05 Jun 09

Do you have a GPS in your car? You could use the data from that to refute the speeding allegation.

I believe that the courts have rejected this avenue of defence in the past.

joannac 10:35 am 05 Jun 09

Do you have a GPS in your car? You could use the data from that to refute the speeding allegation.

Rawhide Kid No 2 10:05 am 05 Jun 09

Rawhide Kid No 2 said :

Are your wheels or tyres over size? If they are it will put your real speed above what your speedo is showing.

Oops ..a bit slow today

Rawhide Kid No 2 10:02 am 05 Jun 09

Are your wheels or tyres over size? If they are it will put your real speed above what your speedo is showing.

Postalgeek 9:58 am 05 Jun 09

As others have suggested, check your speedo. You can do this for free; there are several points on highways in Canberra where you can do this. I think there is one on the Monaro Hwy near Hume, and one on the Barton Hwy.

To check your calibration, you will need to be able to drive between the measured markers at a constant speed. Using the cruise control, if your vehicle is so equipped, is the best way to maintain a constant speed. You will also need to time, as accurately as possible, how long it takes to travel the measured distance. Then do the math.

If you drive a 4wd and you’ve switched to larger tires, you may need to recalibrate your speedo.

bren 9:49 am 05 Jun 09

Request the photos… its free in the ACT and when I asked for my photo – they withdrew the fine. It wasn’t my car.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 9:47 am 05 Jun 09

Are you the only person who drives your car?

G-Fresh 9:44 am 05 Jun 09

barking toad said :

No.

+1

Clown Killer 9:43 am 05 Jun 09

The speed camera’s tend be fairly accurate.

I suppose that you could ask to have the device checked, but I suspect that the Treasury officials in the ACT government would keep those devices pretty finely tuned as they’d be wanting fairly accurate estimates of the revenue that they’re raising.

I don’t hold much hope for wriggling out of this though – better start saving four fines is going to hurt – and maybe leave the car at home this weekend – if you get another one you’ll probably run out of demerit points!

Madame Workalot 9:30 am 05 Jun 09

astrojax said :

I cannot believe that I knowingly sped through this intersection on these occasions

a tautology in the circumstances… but if you have a solicitor you could see them and see what recourse you have – these things are machines and are fallible. certainly write letters, as cleverclogs cleverly suggests – writing leaves an easier trail than a phone call.

good luck – report back!

Further to Astro’s suggestion to write letters, in my experience you write an email and they will call you back with a response. If this happens, best to ask them to put something in writing for you – I’m pretty sure they’ll oblige.

FWIW, I found the Traffic Camera Office quite easy to deal with. They were a useful resource when it came to working out what action I could take.

Probably is worth checking your speedo out too, although generally if a speedo is inaccurate it will read a higher speed than what you’re actually going.

astrojax 9:27 am 05 Jun 09

I cannot believe that I knowingly sped through this intersection on these occasions

a tautology in the circumstances… but if you have a solicitor you could see them and see what recourse you have – these things are machines and are fallible. certainly write letters, as cleverclogs cleverly suggests – writing leaves an easier trail than a phone call.

good luck – report back!

Madame Workalot 9:25 am 05 Jun 09

Wow! That’s a lotta tickets….

I got a ticket at the same intersection in November last year, which I am a little dubious about (long story, but I got an extension and haven’t paid it yet). It claimed I was going 17km over the limit which is pretty excessive, especially for me on city streets (clean licence, no previous tickets).

I think the best thing to do is to ask for the most recent calibration records for the camera. Other option is to see if you can get it calibrated yourself (although this is pretty pricey). Other than that, I really have no idea what recourse you have.

cleverclogs 9:23 am 05 Jun 09

I will admit that I would desperately love to hear of any of those infernal contraptions malfunctioning – so much so that they are all removed. However, all desires aside, it does seem that four speeding fines in a month would indicate there something here is amiss – either with your speedometer or the camera. I’d get on the phone/write and find out what the hell is going on asap.

barking toad 9:21 am 05 Jun 09

No.

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