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Mysteryman said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Mysteryman said :

The Morgan poll also supports the idea that the Coalition are the preferred part at the moment.

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4680/

Mark Latham was doing very well in the polls at one stage, as was John Hewson.

Yes they were. My point isn’t that one leader is better than the other. What I was saying is that the available data indicates that one party is currently more popular than the other – despite claims to the contrary. I understand that polls aren’t hard facts, but they are the closest indication we have short of holding an actual election.

fair enough – can’t argue with anything you have said there.

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Mysteryman said :

The Morgan poll also supports the idea that the Coalition are the preferred part at the moment.

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4680/

Mark Latham was doing very well in the polls at one stage, as was John Hewson.

Yes they were. My point isn’t that one leader is better than the other. What I was saying is that the available data indicates that one party is currently more popular than the other – despite claims to the contrary. I understand that polls aren’t hard facts, but they are the closest indication we have short of holding an actual election.

Mysteryman said :

The Morgan poll also supports the idea that the Coalition are the preferred part at the moment.

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4680/

Mark Latham was doing very well in the polls at one stage, as was John Hewson.

I have noticed a number of polls during this year that have held the coalition as the preferred party, but Gillard as preferred PM (Not all, but many)

I don’t assume for a second this means people want the liberals led by Julia, but more that she is at best considered the (slightly) lesser of two evils, however, overall, there is a number of people who would want a coalition govt.

So they want the coalition, without the abbot, that’s the strongest message i have got from reading polls (newspaper or otherwise) this year.

Ditch abbot, and set up a sound opposition, and you will win back all the people who seem to be saying “I would have voted Liberal, if Abbot was not there!”

The current govt.s failures are equally the fault of both parties, the Labour/Green Coalition, for creating them, and the Liberal/National coalition, for removing themselves as a credible alternative!

Oh yeah, federal liberal is great for Canberra. After they appease their bogan tabloid-reading constituents by throwing thousands of public servants out of their jobs, they then quietly hire twice as many of them back again.

Did anyone see the Tour de France-inspired cartoon in yesterday’s CT about Abbot vs Gillard? Said it all, really, it was bloody good! How could anyone even contemplate that lunatic Abbott?

The Morgan poll also supports the idea that the Coalition are the preferred part at the moment.

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4680/

Jim Jones said :

Mysteryman said :

watto23 said :

As soon nas the libs realise Tony Abbott is the reason they didn’t win the last election the more likely they’ll win the next. They are as useless as NSW origin selectors IMO.

Most swinging voters, myself included hate both the leaders, but Abbott is the least tolerable. In fact I’m convinced the plan when Abbott became leader was for him to be the scapegoat to lose the election to Rudd. How things change.

I think we may be headed to an even bigger hung parliament myself. The negativity of Abbott vs the unpopular Carbon tax.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/tony-abbott-now-the-preferred-prime-minister-newspoll/story-fn59niix-1226083114864

The polls appear to contradict your assertion.

A poll from The Australian that says that the Liberals are the way to go – colour me unsurprised.

How about I colour you uninformed.

The poll is from Newspoll. Not the Australian. The Australian reported it. There’s a difference.

http://au.nielsen.com/news/200512.shtml – this poll, from a different source (wow – also not a newspaper!) a week earlier, suggests that the both leaders were about even, but the coalition was still the preferred party.

Mysteryman said :

watto23 said :

As soon nas the libs realise Tony Abbott is the reason they didn’t win the last election the more likely they’ll win the next. They are as useless as NSW origin selectors IMO.

Most swinging voters, myself included hate both the leaders, but Abbott is the least tolerable. In fact I’m convinced the plan when Abbott became leader was for him to be the scapegoat to lose the election to Rudd. How things change.

I think we may be headed to an even bigger hung parliament myself. The negativity of Abbott vs the unpopular Carbon tax.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/tony-abbott-now-the-preferred-prime-minister-newspoll/story-fn59niix-1226083114864

The polls appear to contradict your assertion.

A poll from The Australian that says that the Liberals are the way to go – colour me unsurprised.

Mysteryman said :

watto23 said :

As soon nas the libs realise Tony Abbott is the reason they didn’t win the last election the more likely they’ll win the next. They are as useless as NSW origin selectors IMO.

Most swinging voters, myself included hate both the leaders, but Abbott is the least tolerable. In fact I’m convinced the plan when Abbott became leader was for him to be the scapegoat to lose the election to Rudd. How things change.

I think we may be headed to an even bigger hung parliament myself. The negativity of Abbott vs the unpopular Carbon tax.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/tony-abbott-now-the-preferred-prime-minister-newspoll/story-fn59niix-1226083114864

The polls appear to contradict your assertion.

I’m not big on trusting the polls to much, but your link here does show that, based on this particular poll, Gillard is down at the moment, I imagine this will continue to slide back and forth as each respective leader does another stupid thing.

I also note it re-enforces the fact that both parties made a blunder with their leader swaps, while I’m not one of those “I didn’t vote for her types” I do believe the leader is an important consideration when voting, so I can understand the issue people have with the change, and it looks like who ever decided that was a good move was an idiot, same goes for the opposition.

However the back of my mind will always wonder if the swap had never happened, would we end up with the same result, i.e., is Turnbull’s popularity over Abbot equal to Rudd’s popularity over Gillard, therefore resulting in the same hung parliament? Who knows, we can’t go back and try again!

watto23 said :

As soon nas the libs realise Tony Abbott is the reason they didn’t win the last election the more likely they’ll win the next. They are as useless as NSW origin selectors IMO.

Most swinging voters, myself included hate both the leaders, but Abbott is the least tolerable. In fact I’m convinced the plan when Abbott became leader was for him to be the scapegoat to lose the election to Rudd. How things change.

I think we may be headed to an even bigger hung parliament myself. The negativity of Abbott vs the unpopular Carbon tax.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/tony-abbott-now-the-preferred-prime-minister-newspoll/story-fn59niix-1226083114864

The polls appear to contradict your assertion.