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Welcome to Ngunnawal, Ngamberri or Wiradjuri Country/Nation? (Now with added Ngambri Kamberri)

By Jonathon Reynolds - 17 August 2008 29

Back in December 2005 I posted this story: Canberra: Welcome to Ngunnawal, Ngamberri or Wiradjuri Country/Nation?

Over on “The Word” (a similar sort of local user contributed news site to the RiotACT – but in a somewhat different class altogether, being far more refined when it comes to individuals slagging off at each other [ED – next time save your slagging of us for your own sites JR, in fact if this other forum is so superior perhaps take your stories there?]), there is an article by Shane Mortimer “Ngambri Kamberri Canberra.” In the article Mr Mortimer makes several assertions as regard to who the traditional owners of the local area are and whom should be officially “recognised”.

I would suggest that with our newly elected ACT Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Elected Body recently installed I’m predicting that we may see some interesting action on the Indigenous front regarding this and similar issues soon.

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29 Responses to
Welcome to Ngunnawal, Ngamberri or Wiradjuri Country/Nation? (Now with added Ngambri Kamberri)
Special G 6:11 pm 17 Aug 08

I generally find its a racist who is the first to call it.

vg 2:53 pm 17 Aug 08

Apparently if you dare share a contrary view about who ‘owns’ the land, or dare question anything about aboriginality you are a racist

Special G 2:47 pm 17 Aug 08

I may be ignorant of such things so maybe WMC can enlighten me. Isn’t the indigenous culture based around all things coming from the land and no one actually owning it. So the whole original owners thing is a load of crap. Correct me if I’m wrong.

vg 2:44 pm 17 Aug 08

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Genuine aboriginals who embrace their culture daily are ashamed by these idiots

I’m sure you’d know, what with all your ‘genuine aboriginal’ acquaintances.

Disputes over borders and land ownership are common to all cultures. But hey, feel free to use it as an excuse to legitimize your racist views.

Dear WMC

How much time have you spent in the indigenous communities of the NT, and not the one’s who live in Darwin? They shudder when they hear about crap like this.

I am far from racist, just realist. Grow up a bit

DJ 2:02 pm 17 Aug 08

It’s all bollocks. My land is mine. Simple. I don’t care who was there before and as much as I would prefer it to stay in the hands of my kids when I am gone I have no say in it.

Ngunnawal country? Ceremonies? All bollocks in my opinion – I’ve seen too many 40,000 year old fires started with a bic lighter by indigenous blokes who are off their faces on ice and beer.

peter@home 1:27 pm 17 Aug 08

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Genuine aboriginals who embrace their culture daily are ashamed by these idiots

I’m sure you’d know, what with all your ‘genuine aboriginal’ acquaintances.

Disputes over borders and land ownership are common to all cultures. But hey, feel free to use it as an excuse to legitimize your racist views.

and to think, the communities in the NT and WA didn’t even know we had a tent embassy – prompting comments like: “who lives at the tent embassy? why don’t they get their country to pay for a real one?

aboriginals are just like me. they work hard, they pay taxes and they raise their kids.

start worrying about the idiots who don’t or steal from us all. they are in all races IMO.

Woody Mann-Caruso 12:59 pm 17 Aug 08

Genuine aboriginals who embrace their culture daily are ashamed by these idiots

I’m sure you’d know, what with all your ‘genuine aboriginal’ acquaintances.

Disputes over borders and land ownership are common to all cultures. But hey, feel free to use it as an excuse to legitimize your racist views.

vg 12:23 pm 17 Aug 08

They are as much a tribe or clan as I am a celtic warrior with my lineage.

I’ve never seen such sh1t in my life as some of these ‘ceremonies’. Some of the highlights of them being the traditional board shorts some of them wear.

Genuine aboriginals who embrace their culture daily are ashamed by these idiots

I would who’s country it is this week?

Thumper 10:28 am 17 Aug 08

They were never tribes. A tribe is led by a chief. Aboriginal people were clan and extended clan groups that were a part of larger language groups and were not so much ruled buy guided by elders.

But not tribes.

Jonathon Reynolds 10:26 am 17 Aug 08

The comments in Shane Mortimer’s story make more sense after reading this media release from the Chief Minister: http://www.chiefminister.act.gov.au/media.php?v=7273&m=51

Pandy 10:21 am 17 Aug 08

Matilda House gets to welcome everyone to ‘her” land.

Guys at work have been offended about this mis-calling for oh around 10 years or so.

OK the question to you JR, why does Stanhope persit in calling it Ngunnawal country? maybe the most easily tamed group?

ant 9:19 am 17 Aug 08

Interesting comments, JR. The Canberra region was travelled by various groups, not just one “tribe” (and it’s down to more than “tribe” anyway, family lines and clans, linked clans etc), and to have signs up proclaiming this area to be the land of one tribe is wrong. It must be pretty offensive to people from other clans.

There are plenty of aboriginal people quietly doing good work for their people, who don’t get their names in every news report and claim to represent everyone, and who don’t claim repeated benefits for their family and friends. People need to harden up and start to question things like this. Just because it’s aboriginal, doesn’t mean it can’t be queried.

Headbonius 6:14 am 17 Aug 08

Secrt Women’s Business, Smoking Ceremonies, Didgeridoo playing…..in the end it will al be about the money.

Mary Whitehouse 4:14 am 17 Aug 08

PS It’s 4.05 am and I can’t sleep, but after visiting the site Jonathon mentioned I recon I’ll be out like a light. It’s so dull and worthy it would put anyone to sleep.

Mary Whitehouse 4:07 am 17 Aug 08

I have the suspicion that since the election of the Rudd government members of one local family have been making a mint doing “welcome to country” ceremonies. I seem to see them at every other day.

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