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By johnboy - 21 May 2012 71

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Territory and Municipal Services are giving notice that they’re about to start culling kangaroos in the Canberra Nature Park:

The ACT Government wishes to advise that areas within the Canberra Nature Park will be closed from 6 pm Tuesday 22 May 2012 to 6 pm Tuesday 12 June 2012 to allow for the controlled culling of over-abundant Eastern Grey Kangaroos.

The sites to be closed are Callum Brae Nature Reserve, Crace Nature Reserve, Goorooyaroo Nature Reserve, Jerrabomberra West Nature Reserve, Kama Nature Reserve, Mt Painter Nature Reserve, Mulligans Flat Nature Reserve, The Pinnacle Nature Reserve and Wanniassa Hills Nature Reserve.

“The cull of up to 2015 Eastern Grey Kangaroos is needed to maintain populations at appropriate levels to protect the integrity of ecosystems, several of which contain endangered flora and fauna,” said Daniel Iglesias, Director of Parks and Conservation.

To sugar the pill they’ve also announced the results of a survey showing 79% if the population are cool with it.

And to top it off there’s an FAQ.

[Photo from the 2008 cull]

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p1 2:49 pm 01 Jun 12

Disinformation said :

dynomatt74 said :

Pity they don’t have silencers…shooters have been active in the Pinnacle often starting at 3am…noisy. Or is this a 1st world complaint?

Licensed pest exterminators are permitted to use silencers on firearms that will deliver a lethal subsonic projectile to small vermin.
However, the responsible humane dispatch methods of regular culling nf larger animals requires higher muzzle velocities than can be effectively suppressed.
I highly doubt that anyone wants to go to the expense of running exotic calibers like the .500 Whisper just because someone might hear a legal shot going off.

I’m in favour of the culling taking place using nothing but Rocket-propelled grenades. Sure, it would be noisy, but something has been missing from this city since they banned fireworks.

Disinformation 2:18 pm 01 Jun 12

dynomatt74 said :

Pity they don’t have silencers…shooters have been active in the Pinnacle often starting at 3am…noisy. Or is this a 1st world complaint?

Licensed pest exterminators are permitted to use silencers on firearms that will deliver a lethal subsonic projectile to small vermin.
However, the responsible humane dispatch methods of regular culling nf larger animals requires higher muzzle velocities than can be effectively suppressed.
I highly doubt that anyone wants to go to the expense of running exotic calibers like the .500 Whisper just because someone might hear a legal shot going off.

HenryBG 1:37 pm 01 Jun 12

dynomatt74 said :

Pity they don’t have silencers…shooters have been active in the Pinnacle often starting at 3am…noisy. Or is this a 1st world complaint?

Similar complaints from places like Liberia, Sierra Leone or Sudan do carry slightly more weight.

dynomatt74 11:20 am 01 Jun 12

Pity they don’t have silencers…shooters have been active in the Pinnacle often starting at 3am…noisy. Or is this a 1st world complaint?

Baldy 10:31 am 29 May 12

I thought this is interesting and in light of this thread.

Ok it also supports my view that a lot of the protesting about the cull is all about the cute little fuzzy wuzzy animals and absolutly nothing about sound environmental management.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/drive/fluffy-ones-not-the-cutest-policy/4038134

Ben_Dover 4:13 pm 28 May 12

The tapes and signs are still up on Mt Painter, despite it having been declared a lead free zone.

shauno 11:40 am 25 May 12

jrsubs said :

Ben_Dover said :

I have the solution!!

THE SIBERIAN TIGER

I see a predator that’s endangered that needs a new range and food source species….

And a grazing species that’s over populated and needs a predator species to reduce it’s numbers….

Sounds like a perfect match….

That sounds like a good idea… and what an amazing animal — 300kg+, 4m long! One advantage of this plan is that as introduced species go it will never do a cane toad or prickly pear, it’ll never get out of control. Because it is so visible, so large, and so terrifying, we’d always be able to keep numbers down, possibly involving the loss of a human or unintended animal or two. But I’m for it, sure would make wandering the Canberra Nature Park more interesting!

And then a bush walk would mean mandatory carrying of a 338 win magnum riffle. Down at my Uncles farm in the Victoria Alps Omeo side Ive hunted Sambar there a few times and there has always been big cat sightings around that area to but never seen one myself. Suppose to be Panthers that were let loose in WW2. Wouldn’t surprise me if they are there but not seen as even in areas like the US where they have mountain lions they are near on impossible to spot same with Leopards in Africa. The only way to spot a Leopard is with baiting.

jrsubs 9:43 am 25 May 12

Ben_Dover said :

I have the solution!!

THE SIBERIAN TIGER

I see a predator that’s endangered that needs a new range and food source species….

And a grazing species that’s over populated and needs a predator species to reduce it’s numbers….

Sounds like a perfect match….

That sounds like a good idea… and what an amazing animal — 300kg+, 4m long! One advantage of this plan is that as introduced species go it will never do a cane toad or prickly pear, it’ll never get out of control. Because it is so visible, so large, and so terrifying, we’d always be able to keep numbers down, possibly involving the loss of a human or unintended animal or two. But I’m for it, sure would make wandering the Canberra Nature Park more interesting!

Ben_Dover 11:25 am 24 May 12

I have the solution!!

THE SIBERIAN TIGER

It is estimated the wild population of Siberian tigers at around 350-450 tigers.

Almost all wild Siberian tigers live the Southeast corner of Russia in the Sikhote-Alin mountain range east of the Amur River. Their former range included northeastern China and the Korean Peninsula, and as far west as Mongolia. They are the largest of the tiger species and can grow up to 13 feet in length and weigh up to 700 lbs.

The Siberian –or Amur- tiger is considered a critically endangered species with the primary threats to its’ survival in the wild being poaching and habitat loss from intensive logging and development.

Of course there will be some whiners who will say:

“You can’t do that…. tigers aren’t native to Australia….that’s just not right….boo hoo hoo….”

I see a predator that’s endangered that needs a new range and food source species….

And a grazing species that’s over populated and needs a predator species to reduce it’s numbers….

Sounds like a perfect match….

Disinformation 11:14 am 24 May 12

The interesting thing about these culls is that they’re done at the recommendation of ecologists. I only know of this because I was going out with one of the ecologists who was engaged to do the study on some of the kangaroo issues around Canberra.
The amount of real information they use to discern the population density of kangaroos and their impacts on the environment was quite extensive. The history of why certain areas have now got large numbers of kangaroos is also very interesting. Something as simple as someone making a casual decision 20 plus years ago “Lets keep these ones inside the fence as pets” can lead to protests by the ignorant and emotionally led over twenty years later. Simple knowledge of the territorial range of kangaroos can make suggestions by the uniformed irrelevant.

For the people who like to temper their decisions with actual information, it would be extremely hard to disagree with the decisions made once you’re in possession of the information available.

For the people who are lead by their emotional response to things, no amount of data is going to change this.

If I was in a position of authority where I had to deal with people who can’t be reasoned with, I’d simply choose to ignore them because they’re unlikely to be won over. If you paid them any attention, you’d encourage them to kick up more of an objection because they think they’re being considered. Once they lost out, they’d complain more that they were ignored.

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