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Why do we allow the police to go digital without any debate ?

By thomas%00 - 22 February 2007 37

Police are encrypting their everyday lives onto the digitally encrypted radio system.

And you know what. The police in Canberra are operating under stealth conditions. They answer to nobody and their radio system is non-readable due to digital encryption.

Do we want a society that can do whatever they like and not tell anybody. What sort of society encourages encrypted digital technology. Does Any ?

Are we so poor that we are not allowed to pick-up the police radio transmissions. Are we so stupid that we allow the police to monitor us without us monitoring them.

Why do we allow the police to go digital without any debate?

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37 Responses to
Why do we allow the police to go digital without any debate ?
chrisjeanemery 9:05 am 22 Feb 07

Going digital and encrypted must be a disadvantage to those criminals who used to listen if there was a police call to their area of operations.

LurkerGal 9:02 am 22 Feb 07

I’m fine with the encryption. There is nothing worse than having the police attend you after a bad event, and then having the media and everyone with a scanner turn up and take a gander.

Thumper 8:54 am 22 Feb 07

No, I don’t agree. Penguins evolved to swim because they no longer had the need to fly, given that they had no predators.

DarkLadyWolfMother 8:52 am 22 Feb 07

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jr 8:27 am 22 Feb 07

Encrypted communications is nothing new.

Thumper 8:27 am 22 Feb 07

Nothing to see here. Move along.

No conspiracies…

VYBerlinaV8 now_with 7:59 am 22 Feb 07

Should be “There is quite a bit…”

VYBerlinaV8 now_with 7:58 am 22 Feb 07

This is quite a bit of government information that is not (and will never be) public. Most of this information requires a formal Australian Government security clearance. The reason for this is that in the wrong hands this information could damage either individuals or Australia as a nation. I work in the space, and see no issue at all with police choosing to encrypt some or all of their radio transmissions. It has zero to do with accountability, and everything to do with operational effectiveness. If we expect the police to do their jobs properly, we should support approach this rather than criticise.

Samuel Gordon-Stewar 7:56 am 22 Feb 07

Hasdrubahl, I’m aware of that, just questioning the legality of it.

Rawhide Kid 7:49 am 22 Feb 07

Most Government radios in the ACT are now Digital. Only the AFP and “Quiet” Organizations are Encrypted. Even the RFS and SES are now digital though not Encrypted.

Ralph 7:46 am 22 Feb 07

All the other states are moving to this system and we are way behind the US.

You can pick up a uniden scanner that will decript, but will cost megabucks.

Hasdrubahl 7:45 am 22 Feb 07

If the boy SGS had any understanding of radio newsroom practice, he’d know that police broadcasts are monitored all the time.

That said, it has long worried me that crims could be monitoring police comms – as it may help them to escape the long arm of the law.

DavidM 7:15 am 22 Feb 07

It’s my understanding that they went to digital radios to improve signal quality and system reliability, rather than to make sure that thomas%00 can’t monitor them.

The public doesn’t need to be able to see the inner workings of public agencies in real time in order for them to be accountable — no one, for example, is suggesting that the public be able to wander in and out of operating theatres, prisons, government departments, and so on … but these are still publicly accountable.

It’s easy to blow the ‘conspiracy’ whistle, but most of the time I’d say it’s not justified.

Danman 7:13 am 22 Feb 07

SGS – Scanners are readily available for such purposes. I am pretty sure that it would not be illegal to listen in for the sole purpose of listening in (vg?)

Listening in for your own benefit i.e. in the process of commiting a crime – driving while listening – then thats a chargable offence (vg?)

I have had scanners on and off over the years – they are quite an enjoyable hobby – plucking signals out of the air and listening.

As for the police going digital – I would have thought that if it is an operational requirement then why would the public need to be consulted.

I have no legal standing to back up my claims – but this is how I see it – and I am quite happy to be corrected where possable.

Samuel Gordon-Stewar 7:05 am 22 Feb 07

I was under the impression that it is illegal to listen in on police communications…or is that just New South Wales?

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