14 November 2023

Will drug decriminalisation really create a zombie apocalypse? Not so much

| Professor Desmond Manderson
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Police will still seize illicit drugs under the decriminalisation laws. Photo: ACT Policing.

Just before Halloween, when all the old monsters come out to play, the most important law reform passed here for some years finally came into force.

After a long and heated debate that reached all the way to the federal parliament, the possession of small amounts of commonly used drugs such as heroin, ice, MDMA, and cocaine was decriminalised. But the much-hyped zombie apocalypse has not eventuated.

The ACT’s progressive law reform agenda always excites national interest. First, a reality check. The new laws do not legalise these drugs. They do not weaken existing penalties for sale, supply, or trafficking.

Indeed, they concern only possession of a ”small amount” for personal use – typically less than one-quarter of the amount treated as simple possession. The laws create a new category covering only the most minor offences, least likely to cause long-term harm.

The legal system treats traffickers and users very differently. For the most part, we assume that low-level users are best dealt with through social welfare and health systems. This ”harm minimisation” approach formed the basis of Australia’s bipartisan National Drug Strategy for more than 30 years. It reflects global best practice.

It is increasingly thought inappropriate to subject those found in possession of small amounts of illicit substances to criminal prosecution, a criminal record, and even imprisonment.

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Too much depends, also, on arbitrary discretion or the luck of the draw, whether you are privileged enough to take cocaine in the privacy of your own home, or poor enough to be on the streets.

Decriminalisation merely takes routine practice and applies it across the board.

In cases like these, the criminal justice system is the opposite of value for money. It is exceptionally expensive compared with alternative approaches. This is true for police too – arrest and processing is painfully resource- and time-consuming.

It is also exceptionally ineffective. Possession laws directed at minor users have no effect on levels of drug use. Cannabis was decriminalised in the ACT in 1992. Use went down, not up. Until recently, the ACT had the lowest consumption rate in the country.

Increased use since 2020 – accompanied by a dramatic drop in hard-drug use – might have something to do with the legalisation of cannabis in the ACT in 2019 but might also reflect broader COVID-related changes in drug use. Is drug tourism a thing? No.

In South Australia in 2002, a program of mandatory diversion replaced criminal prosecution for those found in possession of commonly used drugs. Earlier this year, Queensland – the most conservative state in the country – announced it would adopt the same approach.

The ACT decriminalisation model takes a slightly different path to achieve similar ends, permitting users to opt for a fine or a health education program.

If the benefits of the criminal law are hard to see, the harms are not. A criminal law has life-changing effects on future education, employment, and housing prospects. It is a scarlet letter. More than that, the stigma of illegality and the fear of arrest make users reluctant to seek out help and treatment.

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Take pill testing. Encouraging people to find out what is in the substance they are taking before they take it ought to be a no-brainer. The ACT Government, with the support of ACT Policing, has been notably more enlightened than its counterparts in Victoria and NSW. Canberra hosts Australia’s first pill-testing service, CanTEST.

Decriminalisation should see more people willing to use the facility. Drug use will not increase. Safety will be improved. Lives will almost certainly be saved.

Meanwhile, some people have failed to move on. Tired old scenes and stereotypes keep being trotted out. All drug users are dangerous junkies. One dose and you’re hooked. Sending the wrong message. Rolling out the red carpet for traffickers. Drug zombies prowling the streets.

These cliches, straight out of the Hammer Horror playbook, do not remotely reflect the diversity and complexity of drug use in the modern world. Such hyperbole is the main obstacle to humane and respectful treatment.

As for ”rolling out the red carpet for traffickers” or ”lining the pockets of criminals”, not decriminalisation but criminalisation bears the blame – increasing profits, increasing crime, increasing corruption. Organised crime does not fear prohibition: it needs it.

Those guilty of mispresenting the new ACT law, its effects, and its targets, ought to take a chill pill and have a good lie-down. It will neither significantly increase drug use nor set impressionable young people on the road to ruin.

It will introduce a dose of humanity into our legal system. It is a small step towards helping those in need of support and treatment.

A leading critic recently warned that decriminalisation would be an ”added burden” on the health system; a ”drain on resources”. What message does such a remark send about whose welfare matters and whose does not? No doubt the health system could do with more funds if they are to respond to increased demand. That would be another terrifying outcome – not.

Desmond Manderson is a professor at the ANU College of Law and a member of the ANU Drug Policy Research Network.

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“But the much-hyped zombie apocalypse has not eventuated.” Really? “Much hyped”? I must have missed the whole zombie kerfuffle. Or maybe nobody of note ever said such a thing. Professor Desmond seems to be making stuff up. Is he a Professor because he’s built a career from making up annoying strawman arguments to misrepresent policy debates? Des mate, if your views really have merit, you wouldn’t need to do that. But obviously you sense there’s something that doesn’t add up in your argument, so you try to distract and deflect with inane rhetoric.

Stick to facts, you’ll appear more sensible rather than just another dreary midwit ideologically-captured arts academic. I would probably have agreed with much of the drug decrim platform, but I see now from Professor Des here that it doesn’t stand up without needing copious amounts of strawman drivel mixed in. So using that rule of thumb, I assume the argument is somehow flawed.

HiddenDragon8:35 pm 22 Nov 23

“Organised crime does not fear prohibition: it needs it.”

Hammer films were much more about vampires than zombies, and there will still be plenty of the former preying on victims in the lightly policed (by a thinly-stretched ACT police service) new netherworld between decriminalisation and legalisation – which, with the small risk of a fine as the price of continued admission to that world in the ACT, will (to continue the tortured metaphor) be like appointing Dracula as sports master at St. Trinian’s.

Capital Retro3:43 pm 22 Nov 23

What does a zombie apocalypse look like?

Drug reforms in the ACT have strong community support and I am proud we have a government that is leading the nation. I am disappointed that Liberal leader Elizabeth Lee has promised to repeal the ACT’s drug reform laws if elected.

I am proud of our government’s efforts and their willingness to tackle drug use at music festivals following a number of deaths of young people at events around Australia. The strategy was months in the planning with input from police and leading medical and drug experts who volunteered to oversee the program. Unfortunately the Canberra Liberals, deputy Jeremy Hanson and the federal Liberals intervened and blocked the reforms.

The ACT’s pill and drug testing service was set up following this setback and has been highly successful. In its first month of operation the service found that a majority of samples were tainted with other substances with nearly a third of people discarding their drugs after having them analysed. I think the service is to be expanded.

Hopefully our government takes drug reform further. This includes following Sydney and Melbourne’s lead in establishing drug injecting rooms for addicts. This will allow them to inject in a safe and caring environment and talk to medical professionals who can provide the assistance they need.

Except it doesn’t have community support. There was no referendum on these laws. AFP Commissioner Reece Kershaw slammed the decriminalisation push and the police have clearly expressed their objection to it.

What strong community support for drug decriminalisation?

ACT Labor were publicly caught gloating about how they purposely hid their decriminalisation intentions from the community during the election campaign, and then forced it through quickly and quietly after the election.

Even Shane the Green Ratt commented that he had not been informed about Labor’s drug decriminalisation intentions:

“I paid pretty close attention during the last election campaign and I did not hear that matter talked about”

“If you intend to bring something to this parliament you should have the courage to go to the election and talk about it. You should be proud of what you want to do when you come to this place.”

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8330915/you-might-have-mentioned-it-labor-drug-bill-surprised-rattenbury/

So no, drug decriminalisation could not have had any informed or strong community support as the community and even the Greens had been purposely deceived by ACT Labor about their decriminalisation intentions before and during the election.

Will it still be considered progressive and successful when the first child that was encouraged to try hard drugs dies from an overdose? A child that would have otherwise previously been discouraged by anti drug laws.

Drug reforms in the ACT do have strong community support. You can find this information in the latest Australian Institute of Health and Welfare’s survey reports which are freely available on their website. Reports include the 2019 National Drug Strategy Household Survey and Australia’s attitudes and perceptions towards drugs by region. New surveys are currently being conducted. The AIHW website provides detailed overviews of the surveys including sample designs, data commentary, interactive data maps and spreadsheets.

The data is strong and clear and the ACT leads the nation. We received special mention of those surveyed supporting harm reduction, remediation and rehabilitation measures for drug use as opposed to more punitive measures!

Stop talking garbage Jack.

The report you refer to from 2019 clearly shows that drug use had actually declined for young people in their teens and 20s between 2001 to 2019, which would seem to suggest that the existing drug laws and support measures were actually working as intended to prevent people becoming drug users.

So it begs the question, what is the justification to relax laws and encourage illicit drug use when the statistics you refer to clearly show that the war on drugs was actually working as intended from 2001 until 2019.

ACT Labor have already publicly admitted they hid their drug decriminalisation intentions from the Canberra public before the last election, and also from their own Green coalition partners, because they knew it would not have support from the community.

If there was any strong community support whatsoever ACT Labor would have had the guts to announce their decriminalisation intentions publicly.

Labor didn’t and still doesn’t have community support for drug decriminalisation, and they have already publicly acknowledged that, despite what you might incorrectly believe:

“We took it to the election quietly.”

“It was done through a private member’s bill which means it could be done much more quickly.”

“If the government had tried to do it, I tell you it would have taken two years to develop the legislation … and we would have had to deal with all this risk aversion and complexity.”

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8329645/opposition-want-stephen-smith-to-face-inquiry-on-decriminalisation/

The only communities that largely support drug decriminalisation are the drug user community and criminal community.

The same report you refer to clearly shows that the overwhelming majority of Australians do not support any illicit drug use.

Support for cannabis use was at 41%, clearly not a majority, and support for meth 4.6%, cocaine 8%, ecstasy 9.5% and heroin 5.6% very clearly and strongly shows that more than 90% of the Australian community does not support hard illicit drug use, and that very clear lack of community support is from a survey skewed towards progressive drug reforms.

No doubt about you and your ilk nothappyjan, throwing up verbose, irrelevant and outmoded arguments, riddled with erroneous facts and statistics to muddle public debate and suit your narrow, bigoted and outdated world views!

As I made clear in my comments and which you have ignored, drug reforms in the ACT do have strong community support. The data for this support can be found in various government reports but most particularly surveys undertaken by the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare. The Agency’s comprehensive findings are detailed on their website and new surveys are currently underway. These findings are clear, the ACT leads the nation in public support for harm reduction measures including remediation and rehabilitation action as opposed to more punitive measures.

Labor and the Greens have gone to the last two elections and have been elected with comprehensive mandates supporting drug reforms aimed at harm reduction, remediation and rehabilitation action. These reforms are clearly articulated in their joint governing agreement which is available for viewing on the ACT government website.

The Canberra Liberals have been actively campaigning against drug reforms. This has included lobbying their party’s federal senators to interfere and override our laws. Thankfully their wrecking endeavours have failed and Elizabeth Lee has promised to reverse these laws if her party is elected.

Best of luck with that!!

Jack the only verbiage without any facts is from yourself, again. Just parroting that there is strong community support over and over again doesn’t make it magically true.

You previously pointed to some specific Australian Institute of Health and Welfare reports from 2019 that very clearly show that there is no strong community support for illicit drug use. You chose to refer to that report, but you obviously didn’t read or understand it.

On page 38 of the AIHW National Drug Strategy Household Survey 2019 report brief of 2019 you referenced, it clearly states that more than 90% of Australians opposed the legalisation of hard illicit drugs like meth, heroin, and cocaine.

Can you explain how less than 10% support for legalisation of hard drugs equals strong community support for decriminalisation?

But based on your last irrelevant comment I suppose that is just another inconvenient fact you choose to ignore, yet oddly keep referencing as a supporting fact.

You also continue to ignore the quotes to confirm the acknowledged political deception and lack of community support from both the Labor health minister responsible who said they “took it to the election quietly”, and the Greens leader who said Labor “should have had the courage to take it to the 2020 territory election” and that “I paid pretty close attention during the last election campaign and I did not hear that matter talked about”. So is your political myopia so strong that you think your GreensLab heroes are both wrong too?

Just because the GreensLab council is doing something doesn’t mean they have strong community support.

Just because you keep parroting that there is strong community support doesn’t make it magically true either.

Again, you are attempting to muddy the waters. Using verbose arguments and erroneous facts and statistics based on national figures to distort my argument. In its reports, the AIHW singled out the ACT as leading the nation in supporting drug law reforms.

You can hardly argue that these new laws have been introduced by stealth. Both Labor and the Greens have been clear going into past elections, supporting reforms and advocating for better harm reduction methods in treating drug addiction as a health issue. These reforms have been agreed to after each election and are clearly articulated in the parties’ governing agreements.

From its earliest days, the ACT Assembly has understood the need for drug reforms. Reform has had support from both major political parties as well as strong community support. Kate Carnell, the most successful and only Canberra Liberal chief minister ever elected was a strong supporter of drug reform in treating drug use as a health issue.

In 2018, prior to the last election, Labor introduced a Bill into the Assembly proposing amendments to established drug laws as well as smoking bans. The Inquiry into the Drugs of Dependence (Personal Use) Amendment Bill 2021 was instigated by the Liberals. The inquiry was comprehensive with 17 recommendations. The final report was introduced into the Assembly in 2022. 59 submissions were received from the community with an online survey attracting 778 responses. The submissions and online survey were overwhelmingly supportive of reforms and these details are contained on the Assembly website and the final report. Despite widespread community support the Liberals were the only party to oppose the findings and the final report.

The Canberra Liberals are in dissaray as last nights AGM saw. Leader Elizabeth Lee’s support within the party is questionable and I will be surprised if she lasts to the next election. She has flip flopped on climate change action and promised to overturn hard fought drug reform laws if elected.

So according to you Jack, Shane Rattenbury the Leader of the Greens and ACT Attorney General, is completely wrong or just barefaced lying when he said “I paid pretty close attention during the last election campaign and I did not hear that matter talked about” and “If you intend to bring something to this parliament you should have the courage to go to the election and talk about it. You should be proud of what you want to do when you come to this place.” when talking about Labor’s surprise drug decriminalisation bill?

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/8330915/you-might-have-mentioned-it-labor-drug-bill-surprised-rattenbury/

I prefer to rely on evidence based research and statistics from reputable sources rather than unsourced sensationalism and reporting in the media!

But I guess that is all you have to cling to in trying to make your point because you have nothing else to offer!

“Can you explain how less than 10% support for legalisation of hard drugs equals strong community support for decriminalisation?”

Well seeing as no one has proposed or enacted legalisation of hard drugs, this is totally irrelevant, isn’t it.

Strange that you also avoided the parts of the same document and survey where the majority of respondents support harm minimisation and treatment options for all drug types rather than criminal sanction on users.

Seems that the community support is clearly well and truly in support of taking a decriminalisation approach despite the attempted obfuscation.

Well Jack you provided the link to the report, and the statistics enclosed very clearly do not support your argument that there is strong support for the recent drug decriminalisation in Canberra.

As the report you keep referring to states “support for the legalisation of other drugs was much lower: • cocaine (8.0%) • ecstasy (9.5%) • heroin (5.6%) • meth/amphetamines (4.6%).”

Yes Chewy there is technically a difference between legalisation and decriminalisation, but that report and those stats are what Jack chose to argue against my point that “there is no strong community support for drug decriminalisation”, so you can take that up with Jack.

The other parts of that report you refer to Chewy regarding harm minimisation, such as pill testing and supervised drug use, are also irrelevant as it clearly has nothing to do with my sole point that the recently enacted hard drug decriminalisation has no strong community support. So your point is totally irrelevant, isn’t it Chewy.

But clearly the majority of Australians, according to Jack’s report, do not want hard drugs to be freely available with no legal consequences, whether it be legalised or decriminalised.

If there is strong support please provide the evidence based research and statistics from reputable sources that you repeatedly have been unable to provide so far.

If there was strong support for decriminalisation Labor would have taken it to the election and even informed their Green partners about it, but they didn’t because they knew the support wasn’t there.

Labor’s Rachel Stephen Smith is on the record admitting that “If the government had tried to do it, I tell you it would have taken two years to develop the legislation … and we would have had to deal with all this risk aversion and complexity.”

So you can both parrot there is strong support for drug decriminalisation all you like, but the records, facts, and statistics you provided prove otherwise.

Incorrect Jan,
The support for harm minimisation methods were across the board, including both soft and hard drugs, using different techniques.

Referral to treatment for example being across the board (all illicit drugs, hard and soft) supported far more than criminal sanction.

Which is exactly what the new laws will do.

Despite your attempts to create a false narrative that this is somehow about legalisation and free access to hard drugs, which no one has mentioned except you.

Although I would note that full legalisation of cannabis is now supported by more than those who oppose it as well.

So you can keep making stuff up and attempting to create strawman arguments that dont reflect the actual laws put in place, but the actual statistics don’t agree with you.

Chewy, the only ones making stuff up are you and Jack. I have never commented on harm minimisation or referral services, so your points are irrelevant to my specific assertion re hard drug decriminalisation in Canberra.

What are the actual statistics from that report regarding legalisation of hard drugs that you and Jack keep referring to Chewy?

Those stats are right below where you found the statistics that say 41% support legalisation of cannabis vs 37% who don’t, that’s also hardly a definition of strong support, and the first time support has ever been that high.

What the report says is less than than 10% of Australians surveyed support legalisation of hard drugs. Also not strong support by any stretch of the definition.

You very inconveniently keep ignoring those stats to prop up your irrelevant strawman arguments about harm minimisation and referral services, both of which already existed in Canberra and could have been expanded without the decriminalisation of hard drugs.

Chewy I also think you need to look up the various meanings of the word “freely”.

“Chewy, the only ones making stuff up are you and Jack. I have never commented on harm minimisation or referral services, so your points are irrelevant to my specific assertion re hard drug decriminalisation in Canberra.”

Yes, you keep talking about the legalisation of drugs. Which isn’t relevant to the issue at hand, which is decriminalisation and harm minimisation, the exact things the new laws are designed to do.

“What are the actual statistics from that report regarding legalisation of hard drugs that you and Jack keep referring to Chewy?”

I haven’t referred to any statistics on legalisation because for the final time, that is not what the issue is about. The only one talking about it is you.

The new laws do not legalise hard drugs. No one has proposed legalising hard drugs. If you think this is incorrect, point out the specific parts of the law that make their possession, use and sale legal. Of course you won’t and can’t do that because it’s impossible.

Although Ironically, you then go on to say:

“You very inconveniently keep ignoring those stats to prop up your irrelevant strawman arguments about harm minimisation and referral services, both of which already existed in Canberra and could have been expanded without the decriminalisation of hard drugs.”

Bahahaha, you even admit in your own comment that the new laws are about decriminalisation, not legalisation. Make up your mind

“You very inconveniently keep ignoring those stats”

You’re right, I do ignore irrelevant points. It’s neither convenient or inconvenient, why on earth would I not ignore things not relevant to the debate.

I agree with you that understanding the various meanings of words is important, so here I’ll help you.

Freely (adverb): without being controlled or limited.

A good definition that shows how your claims about these laws enabling drugs to be freely available is totally incorrect.

Perhaps you should then go and work out exactly what the words “legal” and “legalisation” actually mean.

I am not sure you understand the report or its data sheets. I am not even sure where you are getting your data from. The stats are all there in the AIHW 2019 National Drug Strategy Household Survey. Community support for pill testing in the ACT was the highest in the country at 70% and 57% nationally. Around two-thirds of people surveyed in the ACT supported harm reduction measures for injecting drug use, such as needle and syringe programs (72%), opioid maintenance treatment (68%), access to take-home opioid overdose reversal drug naloxone (63%) and regulated injecting rooms (65%).

Commentary and a data breakdown is provided in the ACT Drug Strategy Action Plan 2018–2021: Progress Report 2019–20 on pages 18-19.
https://www.health.act.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-09/ACTH%20Drug%20Strategy%20Action%20Plan.pdf

The online survey that the government instigated during its Drugs of Dependence survey garnered 778 responses which were overwhelmingly supportive of reforms and is also available online.

Lol, Chewy says:

“I haven’t referred to any statistics on legalisation because for the final time, that is not what the issue is about. The only one talking about it is you.”

Except for when you said:

“Although I would note that full legalisation of cannabis is now supported by more than those who oppose it as well.”

That must have been the other Chewy14
speaking his mind freely or openly or without consequence or perhaps just inconveniently for you.

You’ll notice, if you had looked, that Jack is the person that tried to counter my claim that there is no strong community support for drug decriminalisation by referring to that report which only has stats on the legalisation of hard drugs.

I simply pointed out that the report says no such thing about the decriminalisation of drugs, and that the nearest statistic about the legalisation of hard drugs suggests the exact opposite.

If you think that most people who oppose the legalisation of hard drugs would magically support the decriminalisation of hard drugs if asked, then perhaps you’ve had a few too many drugs yourself. But we’ll never know if you can’t provide any evidence to support your claims.

So after all that verbiage again, you still have zero evidence for your unsubstantiated hollow claim that “that the community support is clearly well and truly in support of taking a decriminalisation approach”, and apart from when the Greens and Labor ministers admit otherwise.

If there is strong support for drug decriminalisation please provide the evidence based research and statistics from reputable sources that you repeatedly have been unable to provide so far.

Jan,
Except once again you have ignored that the same report you are talking about has the exact statistics on support for drug decriminalisation and harm minimisation that you claim don’t exist. They’ve now been referenced multiple times.

Decriminalisation is literally the removal of criminal penalties for the use and possession of drugs, allowing it to be framed as a health issue instead.

So when that survey shows that people support treatment and harm minimisation methods over criminal sanction for drugs, they are supporting drug decriminalisation. Jesus wept, it really isn’t that difficult.

If they didn’t support drug decriminalisation as you are claiming, where is the support for criminal sanctions in the surveys? You haven’t been able to produce anything other than people not supporting full legalisation.

Decriminalisation is a spectrum, you are weirdly claiming that because very few people support full legalisation (one end of the spectrum) they could possibly support forms of decriminalisation.

The problem for you being, those same people then turn around and propose decriminalisation and harm minimisation as their preferred options to deal with drug users over criminal sanction. Which makes your attempted claims just look silly.

You are all over the place jan trying to muddy the waters in twisting words, using erroneous arguments and claiming the govt is trying to decriminalise drugs. That is not what they are doing as you well know. Drug harm minimisation is quite separate from decriminalisation.

And again, what has any of that got to do with supposed strong community support for hard drug decriminalisation?

Do you understand the actual difference between pill testing and illicit drug decriminalisation? It doesn’t seem so as you keep trying to conflate the two.

The next irrelevant drug action plan from Labor’s Stephen Smith that you refer to also says nothing about support for hard drug decriminalisation, or provides any supporting statistics on hard drug decriminalisation, or says anything about Labor’s plans to decriminalise hard drugs in Canberra, just as the Greens leader recently observed too.

But the irrelevant action plan you refer to does state that “The ACT had the lowest rate of recent illicit drug use of any Australian jurisdiction in 2019, at 14.6 per cent.” which again begs the question why was illicit drug decriminalisation necessary when the previous laws and reforms in Canberra were already delivering lowest rates of illicit hard drug use in Australia.

Jesus isn’t the only one weeping after trying to interpret that hot mess of a comment Chewy.

“If they didn’t support drug decriminalisation as you are claiming, where is the support for criminal sanctions in the surveys?”

Perhaps it’s on the same page as your still missing statistics and proof to show “that the community support is clearly well and truly in support of taking a decriminalisation approach”.

Well I suppose you could keep thinking that if you ignore all of the statistics showing the support for drug decriminalisation measures that have already been shown.

Although I’m struggling to see the support for criminal sanctions that you claim is on the same page as the support for decriminalisation measures? Perhaps you can provide anything to support that position. Seeing as you think the below doesn’t exist, I’ll quote again:

“Across each drug type the action people most supported was for ‘referral to treatment or an education
program’: heroin (51%), meth/amphetamines (49%), hallucinogens (46%) and ecstasy (40%). Cannabis was the
only exception to this, where ‘a caution/warning or no action’ was the main action supported (54% compared
with 24% for ‘referral to treatment or an education program’). In addition, between 2016 and 2019:
• for all drugs there was a decline in the proportion who supported a ‘prison sentence’
• a higher proportion supported ‘a caution/warning or no action’ for cannabis, ecstasy and hallucinogens
(Table 9.32).”

The ACT government’s yoursay polls in 2021 showed that only 10% of people supported prison sentences for drug use

Along with the previously listed support for other decriminalisation and harm minimisation. measures such as pill testing, drug injecting rooms etc. This is what exactly what decriminalisation looks like in practice, swapping criminal sanctions for support, health and treatment services.

“Across each drug type the action people most supported was for ‘referral to treatment or an education
program’”

According to the source reference data of your above proof, support for referral to treatment or education programs are usually from other drug users.

So that’s hardly surprising or representative of strong general community support in Canberra.

From the analysis of the source data itself:

“Regardless of drug type, those who report having consumed a prohibited drug are more strongly supportive of legalising drug use or treating prohibited drug use more leniently, than those who have not consumed an illicit drug. This fact and the growth in illicit drug use may be one reason why support for a more lenient approach to illicit drug use is growing.”

Methods – Data for the study are drawn from the 2013, 2016 and 2019 National Drug Strategy Household Surveys.”

Who would have guessed that drug users prefer more lenient drug laws?

Perhaps the Riot Poll is a better measure of community opinion in Canberra specifically:

“We asked Do you agree with decriminalising illicit drugs for personal use in the ACT? A total of 1345 readers voted.

Your options were to vote No, drug use will increase and so will the dangers for the rest of us.

This received 60 per cent of the total, or 804 votes.

Alternatively, you could vote Yes, this is a social problem and criminalising it is pointless.

This received 40 per cent of the total, or 541 votes.”

https://the-riotact.com/probing-the-polls-drug-decriminalisation-and-public-safety-in-canberra/705447

That doesn’t look like “that the community support is clearly well and truly in support of taking a decriminalisation approach” as you assert Chewy.

“According to the source reference data of your above proof, support for referral to treatment or education programs are usually from other drug users.”

What? Where have you pulled that from? The survey is a community wide, representative sample.

The perception on preferred policies are drawn from that community wide sample.

But you are partially right, the more people have real world experience with drugs, the research on treatments for drug abuse and qualifications in the field, the more they support treatment and decriminalisation measures.

“Perhaps the Riot Poll is a better measure of community opinion in Canberra specifically:”

Really? No, really?

You now want to rely on a self selected poll from Riotact readers as a proxy for the wider Canberra community sentiment?

Nup.

Ironic how the woke left has framed this as a health issue. What has actually changed in terms of offering health and rehabilitation services post decriminalisation? Were they not available before and how is this reducing the rates of drug abuse in the ACT? By the same logic we should remove all restrictions on gun ownership and offer counselling services if anyone develops PTSD as a result.

“Is drug tourism a thing? No.” Professor, why are you telling us porkies?

Drug tourism to Amsterdam has been a massive “thing” in Europe for decades, it’s even been included in many movie comedies. Alcohol tourism from the US where the legal age is 21 down to Mexico where the legal age is 18 is also a “thing”. In Australia many people travel to Nimbin and surrounds to get involved with the local ganja culture.

Drug tourism is real.

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