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Your re-sealed roads are rubbish!

By Traces_of_Nut - 10 December 2013 93

Gee, it seems we Canberrans will cop anything – even the rubbish they call road re-sealing. You see (hear and feel) all the loose aggregate (stones) and you think ‘oh, this is temporary, they’ll be back to put the proper bitumen coat on’. But they don’t. So our streets now resemble something worse than you’ll find in the outback.

Our street was fine before they rushed (it took them 45min) a program of re-sealing ahead of the last election. They selected a much larger aggregate size, which means the kids can’t walk on the road without covered footwear, so less bike riding/random acts of exercise. There are still loose stones everywhere years afterward. I rang to complain and I asked what standard do they have to comply with.  Answer: None (they do for newly built roads only).

A few years ago they couldn’t put the roads in the right places (think about the interchange), now they can’t pave properly.  What next? Dirt roads?

I love Canberra but I’m getting sick of this cheap, miserly and sometimes mean government.

What’s Your opinion?


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Your re-sealed roads are rubbish!
Gungahlin Al 12:29 pm 10 Dec 13

I was talking to Katy Gallagher (then Treasurer) and Tony Gill about this issue in one Community Cabinet Meeting at Harrison.

I asked what the resealing cycle is for Canberra Streets. “20 years” I was told.

I asked what is the life cycle of their chipseal approach to resealing streets? “15 years” I was told.

Now unless something’s seriously wrong with my Grade 1 maths, that does not represent a sustainable solution…

Thumper 12:26 pm 10 Dec 13

Solidarity said :

Makes riding a motorbike much more interesting, that’s for sure. Can’t ride in the middle due to loose gravel everywhere, can’t ride in the car wheel tracks because the car in front pelts rocks at you… fun!

And if you’ve got a belt drive, well, you’re f*cked….

goody658 12:14 pm 10 Dec 13

Yeh roads are bad here, but unless the people people complain to the proper group then nothing will change and we’ll still be here in 10 years talking about the state of our dirt roads.

magiccar9 12:13 pm 10 Dec 13

Antagonist said :

Another example is the recent ‘reseal’ undertaken on Pitman St, Tuggeranong (outside Southern Cross Club). You can clearly see the white road markings and arrows from before the ‘reseal’. All they did was scatter loose stones around, without bothering to stick them down with new road tar, or remove the excess stones. I would not even call it a reseal. Dodgy as hell.

Half-@rsed is an understatement. TaMS could not organise a root in a brothel with a fist-full of $50 notes.

I’m glad someone brought this up. I avoid newly surfaced roads like the plague – even if it adds considerable time to my journey.

Was sitting on Pitman St the other day (in someone else’s car, naturally). I looked at the road next to me. The new surface has actually worn off through to the old one. I put this down to the extreme use of this small section from every bus exiting the interchange. Surely this would have been a prime section for the mythical ‘hot seal’ method. It’s not a large run – probably 500-600m tops – and is hammered by heavy vehicles all day long… But alas, cheap and nasty it is.

Antagonist 11:57 am 10 Dec 13

Another example is the recent ‘reseal’ undertaken on Pitman St, Tuggeranong (outside Southern Cross Club). You can clearly see the white road markings and arrows from before the ‘reseal’. All they did was scatter loose stones around, without bothering to stick them down with new road tar, or remove the excess stones. I would not even call it a reseal. Dodgy as hell.

Half-@rsed is an understatement. TaMS could not organise a root in a brothel with a fist-full of $50 notes.

Watson 11:39 am 10 Dec 13

I’m going to get behind this whinge. They did this to our old street in Nth Canberra a couple of years ago and it is exactly as you described. We used to regularly walk barefoot, but that was made impossible. Kids riding bikes got a lot more risky and scooters or rollerblades impossible. And there were no footpaths in that street.

But what irritated me most was that the surface looked quite good in that street before. This was one of those small crescents where it is virtually impossible to get any speed up with the car unless you want to end up in the park or someone’s frontyard. There were no potholes, no noticeable cracks and it was nice smooth surface.

I’d rather that they reseal less than do it cheap. I very much doubt that the surface of the street would’ve deteriorated much if they would’ve waited a couple of years, due to there not being much traffic and cars driving slowly.

rhino 11:19 am 10 Dec 13

I think the problem lies in how they think of value. To them, they have $x million to spend and they think “we could make one road really nice or we could “reseal” 5 roads to this lower standard and we will have gotten more from our money”.

The problem with that lies in the cost to the community. Extra petrol multiplied by hundreds of thousands of trips over that road, plus broken windscreens and chipped paint repairs etc all make the cost far greater. That cost may not be on the balance sheet of the government, but the total cost to community should be considered. After all, the government is basically supposed to be a group of us citizens acting on behalf of all of us for our greater community benefit.

Solidarity 11:16 am 10 Dec 13

Makes riding a motorbike much more interesting, that’s for sure. Can’t ride in the middle due to loose gravel everywhere, can’t ride in the car wheel tracks because the car in front pelts rocks at you… fun!

Grrrr 11:15 am 10 Dec 13

All the above, and I find that they can’t even smooth the dips / holes out whilst they’re at it. Half the roads I’ve seen re-sealed were worse off as a result. I just don’t get it – are we all missing something? Extra grip for cars as a result of the rougher surface, maybe?

KB1971 10:52 am 10 Dec 13

Gungahlin Al said :

I agree wholeheartedly, and have been saying as much here for years.
And it turns suburban back streets into cheese grates for your kids.

Go & drive around the suburbs/streets of anyother City/town in Australia and you will see that statement is incorrect.

Gungahlin Al 10:29 am 10 Dec 13

I agree wholeheartedly, and have been saying as much here for years.
And it turns suburban back streets into cheese grates for your kids.

KB1971 10:24 am 10 Dec 13

AAMC said :

WhaWhat next? Dirt roads?

Hope so; it will make the mundane trip to work more interesting with a winch recovery!

And Scandanavian Flicks…….

AAMC 9:44 am 10 Dec 13

WhaWhat next? Dirt roads?

Hope so; it will make the mundane trip to work more interesting with a winch recovery!

Deref 8:50 am 10 Dec 13

A mate of mine who’s a keen bicycle rider says that the effort required to pedal on chipseal is significantly greater than that on a decent surface.

If that’s true, and it certainly makes sense, then the same’s true of the energy required to move a car over chipseal.

Wouldn’t it be interesting to know how much more petrol’s burnt to provide the extra energy across Canberra’s roads.

davo101 8:30 am 10 Dec 13

I love Canberra but I’m getting sick of this cheap, miserly and sometimes mean government.

Meanwhile the other half of Canberra thinks the government is lavish and extravagant. Funny how finding a compromise results in everyone being unhappy.

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