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A cyclist’s last words are?

By 3 February 2013 101

Patrick Keogh linked to this in the comments but I thought it was worth a run of its own as we know how much you like seeing cycling near death experiences.

Head mounted camera captures near miss: cyclist vs 4WD. The driver didn’t see me until I was right in front of the bonnet.

Apparently out at Wallaroo Road

oh shit

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101 Responses to A cyclist’s last words are?
#1
Tetranitrate3:48 pm, 03 Feb 13

Terrible on the part of the driver. I’ve be near run off the road a couple of times by oblivious tradies going to change lanes without bothering to look, and that’s driving a compact car. It’d be even worse on a bike or Motorcycle, though at least with a motorcycle you’ve probably got the ability to accelerate past as long as there’s nobody in front.

However I have to wonder why cyclists still insist on riding on the roads given the ample evidence that a substantial minority of drivers are idiots who are completely oblivious of what’s going on around them.

#2
460cixy4:20 pm, 03 Feb 13

I like how he screamed like a girl. But yeah poor form on the Nissan drivers part I’m taking a punt that he just did not see the cyclist .

#3
astrojax4:40 pm, 03 Feb 13

460cixy said :

I like how he screamed like a girl.

But yeah poor form on the Nissan drivers part I’m taking a punt that he just did not see the cyclist .

i’m hoping he didn’t see the cyclist – bloody attempted murder if he did (but a piss-poor attempt if it was)

#4
goggles134:52 pm, 03 Feb 13

I hope you report this to be police, given you got a clear picture of the numberplate.

the more idiots that get caught, the better road safety will be.

time for me to get a go pro camera for my car…….saw some astounding stuff yesterday.

include two selfish cyclists who decided to go two wide as we reached a 100 zone on Moss Vale road heading into Kangaroo Valley. this made it difficult for me to pass as I could get to 100 quicker than they could. I happily stayed well behind them on a steep and windy descent, so I think they should have given me the same courtesy.

don’t get me started on the camry dawdling up the clyde mountain where they decided to move into the right lane in a passing zone so early it wasn’t funny.

#5
screaming banshee5:20 pm, 03 Feb 13

YGC 24D?

#6
bd845:45 pm, 03 Feb 13

Driver is obviously lazy and in attentive not properly looking and cutting the corner. Having said that, it looks very overcast in the footage, I would like to enquire how visible the cyclist made themselves with his clothing and whether he had a light operational.

As a driver, I would have expected both rider and driver to have their lights on in that situation.

#7
bundah5:57 pm, 03 Feb 13

Momentary terror causing the heart rate to go through the roof.That’s yet another example of why i gave up riding bikes years ago!

#8
Girt_Hindrance6:05 pm, 03 Feb 13

That was scary even from this perspective… Would have been terrifying facing that approaching Roo-bar.
I nearly got cleaned up crossing a pedestrian crossing years ago. Took me ten mins to stop shaking, hope this gent is okay.
Also, impressed by the single swear word- I don’t think I could be so reserved in that circumstance.

#9
milkman6:37 pm, 03 Feb 13

Some people just don’t have the skill to operate a car. If it were up to me I’d retest people every time they renewed their license.

#10
bundah6:48 pm, 03 Feb 13

milkman said :

Some people just don’t have the skill to operate a car. If it were up to me I’d retest people every time they renewed their license.

Driving simulator testing would do the trick.

#11
patrick_keogh6:58 pm, 03 Feb 13

bd84 said :

Driver is obviously lazy and in attentive not properly looking and cutting the corner. Having said that, it looks very overcast in the footage, I would like to enquire how visible the cyclist made themselves with his clothing and whether he had a light operational.

As a driver, I would have expected both rider and driver to have their lights on in that situation.

It was slightly overcast at around 10am this morning when the incident occurred. The visibility was good. For example, rerun the footage and see how far back you can see the moving 4WD. If you look carefully you’ll see me turn my head slightly which is when I saw it.

I was wearing a flouro yellow and white helmet and a red and white maillot. Not exactly invisible unless you don’t look.

#12
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd8:14 pm, 03 Feb 13

I suggest that every single bike rider invest in two go pros. They are damn cheap now days. Put one on a helmet mount and one on the back of your bike. Even if some pos hits you and you die, at least there will be complete evidence to lock the moron up.

#13
Tetranitrate8:18 pm, 03 Feb 13

milkman said :

Some people just don’t have the skill to operate a car. If it were up to me I’d retest people every time they renewed their license.

There’s some evidence (easily googleable) that low IQ drivers have disproportionately more accidents, particularly at intersections – not really surprising since they by definition have poor reasoning skills.

It’s probably no accident that in most of western Europe the bottom rung of society is basically prevented from driving through high upfront costs (~1000 euros or more) for licenses and the absolute requirement for independent training. The way we let parents ‘train’ their kids here is terrible, bogans who last sighted the road-rules in 1975 pass on their habits and attitudes to their kids enough by just driving them around, let alone by “teaching” them how to drive.
Of course the problem with doing that in Australia is that by and large this would condemn these people to unemployment and more general social exclusion because of the spread of our cities and the inadequacy of public transport systems. Just can’t win.

#14
bd848:36 pm, 03 Feb 13

patrick_keogh said :

bd84 said :

It was slightly overcast at around 10am this morning when the incident occurred. The visibility was good. For example, rerun the footage and see how far back you can see the moving 4WD. If you look carefully you’ll see me turn my head slightly which is when I saw it.

I was wearing a flouro yellow and white helmet and a red and white maillot. Not exactly invisible unless you don’t look.

I would say that the direction you were coming from was very overcast compared to the direction the Patrol was, but your fluro clothing should have made you easy enough to see. I’m betting that driver is bad, that he takes that corner the same way every day. Some people need their licence torn up.

#15
wildturkeycanoe8:41 pm, 03 Feb 13

patrick_keogh said :

bd84 said :

Driver is obviously lazy and in attentive not properly looking and cutting the corner. Having said that, it looks very overcast in the footage, I would like to enquire how visible the cyclist made themselves with his clothing and whether he had a light operational.

As a driver, I would have expected both rider and driver to have their lights on in that situation.

It was slightly overcast at around 10am this morning when the incident occurred. The visibility was good. For example, rerun the footage and see how far back you can see the moving 4WD. If you look carefully you’ll see me turn my head slightly which is when I saw it.

I was wearing a flouro yellow and white helmet and a red and white maillot. Not exactly invisible unless you don’t look.

Your yellow and white helmet not only would look like a dot until the last minute, but also would blend into the dry grass in the background. I dare say that a red and white mullet [ maillot is a woman's swimsuit if you didn't know ] probably looks like a road speed indicator sign, seeing that they are commonly that colour.
Also, when you turn your head in the footage, it appears the driver would have been looking into the brightness of the sun trickling into the clouds in the background, which has quite a glare to it. That in itself would make almost anything that blends into the background almost invisible.
Not saying the driver wasn’t at fault, but shedding some light on what may have contributed.

#16
patrick_keogh8:59 pm, 03 Feb 13

Girt_Hindrance said :

That was scary even from this perspective… Would have been terrifying facing that approaching Roo-bar.
I nearly got cleaned up crossing a pedestrian crossing years ago. Took me ten mins to stop shaking, hope this gent is okay.
Also, impressed by the single swear word- I don’t think I could be so reserved in that circumstance.

Thanks for the kind thoughts GH. Yes I was OK… a little bit of adrenalin-boosted heart rate but nothing like doing another 30km to get that out of the system. A Patrol doesn’t exactly have sparkling acceleration so I was always going to be able to out manoeuvre it and I wasn’t all that worried, more cranky that someone tried to kill me.

#17
thy_dungeonman9:15 pm, 03 Feb 13

Tetranitrate said :

However I have to wonder why cyclists still insist on riding on the roads given the ample evidence that a substantial minority of drivers are idiots who are completely oblivious of what’s going on around them.

Well as one can see in the video there’s no footpath, so where else can he ride to get from A to B along this road?

Also this car is cutting the corner terribly and driving in the wrong lane. If one was driving a car near this idiot the greater size and speed probably would have resulted in an accident. When I drive around the suburbs people are always cutting corners like this and I don’t understand why they do it when it’s such an obviously dangerous thing to do.

The guy barley slows and doesn’t seem to check the road he should give way to, so he probably would have hit a car too seeing how blind he is.

#18
JimCharles9:33 pm, 03 Feb 13

bundah said :

milkman said :

Some people just don’t have the skill to operate a car. If it were up to me I’d retest people every time they renewed their license.

Driving simulator testing would do the trick.

Is that part of the driving test over here ? We had this thing in the UK, hazard testing,
You watch a video from a travelling driver’s viewpoint on a touchscreen monitor and have to press quickly when you see a hazard (child playing on footpath, idiot stopping without indicating, idiot pulling out without looking etc).
If you don’t get above a certain number, and if you don’t spot the hazards quickly enough, you don’t get a license.

I don’t think it’s the physical skills that are the problem over here (except for not knowing how to drive in wet weather), it’s complete bloody lack of awareness of themselves and others.
Mirrors, anticipation, blind spots, indicators, brakes, getting out of the overtaking lane, stopping without reason, going too slowly, pulling into moving traffic and taking up braking space, pulling into traffic flow when you haven’t got up to the current speed…..ie…not doing anything that will cause another driver to interrupt his normal progress without good cause. It’s a simple overriding rule based on safety.
If the cops stopped messing about with speed camera’s and actually campaigned for people to use their eyes and understand what danger means, there’d be a lot less accidents and near misses.
They might even be able to raise the speed limit then !

#19
Leon8:04 am, 04 Feb 13

460cixy said :

I like how he screamed like a girl.

If you think that “AAH S***” sounds like a girl’s scream, I suggest that you ask your girlfriend for a copy of his birth certicifate.

#20
Innovation8:05 am, 04 Feb 13

I’m all for regular 5 yearly testing. Even theory testing would be better than nothing. Some of the older or international drivers have never undertaken testing or have passed very simple tests.

And it is not a satisfactory excuse to not retest because lower socio economic groups can’t afford retesting of any form. Theory testing would not require significant additional expenditure and, if they have been driving correctly in the previous (5?) years they should be continually learning and improving. If, very quickly, it turned out that some groups are disadvantaged, I and I’m sure others would happily pay extra in their license fees to subsidise those groups to help them get up to speed to renew their licenses.

#21
thebrownstreak698:49 am, 04 Feb 13

JimCharles said :

bundah said :

milkman said :

Some people just don’t have the skill to operate a car. If it were up to me I’d retest people every time they renewed their license.

Driving simulator testing would do the trick.

Is that part of the driving test over here ? We had this thing in the UK, hazard testing,
You watch a video from a travelling driver’s viewpoint on a touchscreen monitor and have to press quickly when you see a hazard (child playing on footpath, idiot stopping without indicating, idiot pulling out without looking etc).
If you don’t get above a certain number, and if you don’t spot the hazards quickly enough, you don’t get a license.

I don’t think it’s the physical skills that are the problem over here (except for not knowing how to drive in wet weather), it’s complete bloody lack of awareness of themselves and others.
Mirrors, anticipation, blind spots, indicators, brakes, getting out of the overtaking lane, stopping without reason, going too slowly, pulling into moving traffic and taking up braking space, pulling into traffic flow when you haven’t got up to the current speed…..ie…not doing anything that will cause another driver to interrupt his normal progress without good cause. It’s a simple overriding rule based on safety.
If the cops stopped messing about with speed camera’s and actually campaigned for people to use their eyes and understand what danger means, there’d be a lot less accidents and near misses.
They might even be able to raise the speed limit then !

+1. Exactly the problem.

#22
Girt_Hindrance8:51 am, 04 Feb 13

Leon said :

460cixy said :

I like how he screamed like a girl.

If you think that “AAH S***” sounds like a girl’s scream, I suggest that you ask your girlfriend for a copy of his birth certicifate.

Hahaha, Owned.

#23
ezy10z9:26 am, 04 Feb 13

i personally hate cyclists…. a road accident is an accident, whether it be with another car or a cyclist…
only difference is, if you hit a cyclist they’re as good as dead… and then the poor motorist (could be an innocent father/mother with children to look after) gets charged with manslaughter and goes to jail just because some twat wanted to ride his bike on the road.

#24
carnardly9:40 am, 04 Feb 13

not in Canberra they don’t. (rolls eyes). Canberra is about the only city in Australia you can kill someone on their bike and cop a traffic infringement notice.

An accident isn’t an accident though if a driver failed to give way, stop, or turned across a cyclist because they were either asleep at the wheel, or deliberately DGAF… What a charming response ezy10z. So if, god forbid, you did hit and kill a cyclist, well, they deserved it because they were there???? and it might ruin *your* family??? you gotta be kidding!

#25
Grrrr9:44 am, 04 Feb 13

ezy10z said :

i personally hate cyclists…. a road accident is an accident, whether it be with another car or a cyclist…
only difference is, if you hit a cyclist they’re as good as dead… and then the poor motorist (could be an innocent father/mother with children to look after) gets charged with manslaughter and goes to jail just because some twat wanted to ride his bike on the road.

It took dozens of posts and not until the next day before we get an idiot with a blame-the-victim mentality on this one. I think Riot-act is going soft!

Now, if only such drivers would get charged with manslaughter .. Too often it’s a piddling fine. An accident can also be negligence. Maybe one day you’ll get creamed by a B-double on the highway and the truck driver will suggest it’s your fault because you wanted to share the road with much bigger vehicles.

#26
G-Fresh9:49 am, 04 Feb 13

ezy10z said :

i personally

“i personally”… “i personally”?!??!?!?!

Learn how to write and stop abusing the English language you ignorant swine.

#27
p19:52 am, 04 Feb 13

That intersection (Wallroo Rd and Gooromon Ponds Rd has pretty good visibility in the direction the 4WD driver was (should have been) looking.

I’d say it is almost certain that the driver was looking mostly over their left shoulder, either at the community notice board, or back up Wallaroo Rd to see if anything was coming down the hill at him (there is less visibility up the hill in the that direction – so he probably spent a little longer looking that way).

The driving was shite because he cut the corner horribly. I wonder if he totally missed the bike, or saw it and completely misjudged how far it would travel in the time it took to do the head check to the left?

To the OP – do you live out that way, or were you visiting someone? Cause if you were simply out for a relaxing ride, I would suggest that Wallaroo Rd is not a good choice, not because of this moron, but because of the current quality of the surface and the resulting unpredictability of the path taken by the mostly heavier vehicles.

#28
ezy10z9:53 am, 04 Feb 13

ACCIDENTS do happen….. thats why they are called accidents… i wasnt wishing bad upon anyone…
Who here has never made a mistake?? wake up to yourselves

#29
chewy1410:12 am, 04 Feb 13

patrick_keogh said :

Thanks for the kind thoughts GH. Yes I was OK… a little bit of adrenalin-boosted heart rate but nothing like doing another 30km to get that out of the system. A Patrol doesn’t exactly have sparkling acceleration so I was always going to be able to out manoeuvre it and I wasn’t all that worried, more cranky that someone tried to kill me.

I don’t think he tried to kill you.

Lazy, inattentive and distracted maybe but definitely not attempted murder.

As a motorbike rider, this kind of thing has happened to me literally hundreds of times. It’s part of the reason why you have to do so much training to avoid situations which can become dangerous very quickly.

If you can’t accept that danger, and that other road users are often complete peanuts, then you shouldn’t be on the road on your bike either.

I think these kinds of videos show the urgent need to rework our driver training methods. I think every driver should be given a retest at five year intervals.

#30
Mysteryman10:13 am, 04 Feb 13

Glad the cyclist is ok and it didn’t turn into a serious accident.

This is the sort of behavior everyone operating a vehicle with less than 4 wheels encounters on a regular basis. I know cyclists cop a hard time from many road users. So do motorcyclists. Luckily we get taught how to ride defensively during the various stages of licensing so we are better equipped to avoid incidents like these. It’s frustrating that we have to act extra responsibly to make up for the piss-poor driving skills of others, but such is life.

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