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Security Door Sales and Installation in Canberra?

By 5 November 2012 24

Has anyone bought security doors lately? I’m interested in getting screen doors for the front and back so that I can catch some breezes without losing a toddler/gaining uninvited guests.

I’m thinking Crimsafe (or similar) for the front. Are they worth the extra money?

If anyone can recommend a local business that was a pleasure to deal with and delivered what they promised, that would be great. I’m looking for good value as well as low hassle/professional service. Also, quick would be good.

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24 Responses to Security Door Sales and Installation in Canberra?
#1
Duffbowl5:24 pm, 05 Nov 12

We had Crimsafe doors fitted in 2010 by Watson’s Blinds. Watson’s were prompt and a good price from memory.

Any security system or product is at best a deterrent or delayer. The Crimsafe doors can be defeated, but will draw attention to whoever is attacking the door and it will take them sometime to get through them. The bolts are a semi-circle keyhole, which locks the door to the frame at three points, and make it difficult to expand the door jamb away from the door. The strike plates are designed so that any leveraging force will pull part of the plate into the door itself.

Check with your insurance company; some offer discounts if these kinds of products are installed.

#2
Pork Hunt5:56 pm, 05 Nov 12

What Duffbowl said but also get the doors keyed alike (even with your front door as well). This is easily achieved, especially when buying new.

#3
mikal6:05 pm, 05 Nov 12

This is an anti-recommendation for Argus Security in Hume.

#4
frannjipani6:07 pm, 05 Nov 12

I had excellent service from Valley Security Screens with their Supa Screens both front and back. Great local company providing a quick and quality service. Cat proof as well!!

#5
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd7:17 pm, 05 Nov 12

http://www.clearshield.com.au/ – strongest product currently on the market(besides of course big welded steel or iron grilles, but who wants them on a house?) due to the stainless sheet being perforated instead so woven mesh. Simple to clean and not much flex.

http://crimsafe.com.au/ – second strongest on the market. Has a great locking in system, the meshe is grub screwed into the door frame, but its still woven mesh. Meaning its very say to cut(I’m not oing to say how on a public forum, don’t ask, youtube) hard to clean, woven mesh fills with crap.

http://www.amplimesh.com.au/supascreen/supascreen – third strongest product on the market. Not as good a locking system as crimsafe but still damn good. Woven mesh that’s basically the same as crimsafe woven mesh. Same faults.

Stay away from all other woven mesh products. It’s glorified fly wire with horrid locking systems. Somebody else mentioned another manufacturer in this thread and I have seen the mesh rip and the top locking bead just fall out due to a brick.

Stay away even more from perforated aluminium mesh. It’s thick, ugly and snaps. Stronger than diamond grilles but not by much.

If you can afford, always get the three pronged lock.

Don’t listen to any spiel about striker plates being better. They are all supplied by the same people to the manufacturers.

Do you research. Go get a sample of each and have a chat to he manufacturers. The choice is easy at the end of the day.

#6
pptvb8:37 pm, 05 Nov 12

+1 for Valley Security Screens.
Make sure who ever you use has a Security Licence.

#7
screaming banshee9:02 pm, 05 Nov 12

For the love of god don’t use valley screens. They did a crap job on our screens, they were badly made, and installed with minimal non-secure screws.

#8
Golden-Alpine9:47 pm, 05 Nov 12

Canberra Security Doors & Screens in Mitchell. We have had 3 doors installed over 2 properties so far. Can’t fault the product or service.

#9
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd10:23 pm, 05 Nov 12

Golden-Alpine said :

Canberra Security Doors & Screens in Mitchell. We have had 3 doors installed over 2 properties so far. Can’t fault the product or service.

There are much stronger products on the market than prowler.

#10
Evil_Kitten11:37 pm, 05 Nov 12

We got ones from Bunnings (around $90 each from memory) and installed them ourselves.

#11
bundah8:45 am, 06 Nov 12

Evil_Kitten said :

We got ones from Bunnings (around $90 each from memory) and installed them ourselves.

Ah yes but is it crimsafe?

#12
Duffbowl8:53 am, 06 Nov 12

Evil_Kitten said :

We got ones from Bunnings (around $90 each from memory) and installed them ourselves.

Depending on which one you’ve bought, they are reasonably easily popped open by pulling on the centre of the grille, and levering back the door jamb. Last time I played with one of these, it was open in about 90 seconds. As I said before, any security system or product is at best a deterrent or delayer.

#13
Holden Caulfield9:00 am, 06 Nov 12

Have used Mitchell Aluminium in the past and would use them again. Our two screen doors are still going well after 8 years.

And yes, Crimsafe (and the like) is worth the extra money if only for the immensely improved aesthetic. It always puzzles me when you see a reno or new build that has clearly cost a few bob and they cheap out on screen doors. Just looks so wrong.

#14
Lazy I9:33 am, 06 Nov 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd, strongest according to who? Australian standards testing? personal opinion? source for information provided?

Can people include a rough quote/cost to have the doors installed by the companies they are recommending?

I have seen quotes of $900+ for a Crimsafe door to be installed, is that to be expected?

#15
Alderney10:09 am, 06 Nov 12

mikal said :

This is an anti-recommendation for Argus Security in Hume.

We had Argus do ours. They didn’t do a bad job.

How’d they f%$ yours up?

#16
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd10:30 am, 06 Nov 12

Lazy I said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd, strongest according to who? Australian standards testing? personal opinion? source for information provided?

Can people include a rough quote/cost to have the doors installed by the companies they are recommending?

I have seen quotes of $900+ for a Crimsafe door to be installed, is that to be expected?

Strongest according to the testing needed for australian standards.. all should have it on their website. i have worked with just about everyone of the security products in canberra in the last few years both manufacturing and installing however am currently out of that industry.
I have done my own tests in factory and also seen how vandals/theifs get through the screens and how easy some mesh tears when replacing torn mesh.
You would be surprised the household items you can use to get into woven mesh with almost no noise.

Unless your frame is special colour or its a oversized door, you8 should not be paying more than 880 for a hinged door with 3 point lock.

RE: security license, this means nothing. All it consist of is a police check and a fee to the government, but you legally have to have a security license to make/install something as basic as a diamond grille.

The biggest thing to make sure of when you deecide on what product you want, is ensure the correct screws are being used. The person above who mention small screws, this is unaceptable and make screens useless if they can be pryed off. I have seen many screens installed with 1/8 screws that are very short. Dont let them do that sort of stuff.

#17
NoImRight11:12 am, 06 Nov 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Lazy I said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd, strongest according to who? Australian standards testing? personal opinion? source for information provided?

Can people include a rough quote/cost to have the doors installed by the companies they are recommending?

I have seen quotes of $900+ for a Crimsafe door to be installed, is that to be expected?

Strongest according to the testing needed for australian standards.. all should have it on their website. i have worked with just about everyone of the security products in canberra in the last few years both manufacturing and installing however am currently out of that industry.
I have done my own tests in factory and also seen how vandals/theifs get through the screens and how easy some mesh tears when replacing torn mesh.
You would be surprised the household items you can use to get into woven mesh with almost no noise.

Unless your frame is special colour or its a oversized door, you8 should not be paying more than 880 for a hinged door with 3 point lock.

RE: security license, this means nothing. All it consist of is a police check and a fee to the government, but you legally have to have a security license to make/install something as basic as a diamond grille.

The biggest thing to make sure of when you deecide on what product you want, is ensure the correct screws are being used. The person above who mention small screws, this is unaceptable and make screens useless if they can be pryed off. I have seen many screens installed with 1/8 screws that are very short. Dont let them do that sort of stuff.

Thanks for both posts. Very helpful.

#18
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd11:49 am, 06 Nov 12

Not a problem.

also another thing to note, either ask for the duel selector lock so if locked by key cannot be unlocked by the snib, get screen for your sidelight, or get the sidelight reglazed with laminated safety glass(dont use toughened no matter how the glazier trys to spin it, its easy to break and once its broken its simple acces, the only upside is the wide varity of patterns.). There is no point installing a flash security door when a thief can just break the sidelight next to it and reach through to unlock the door with the snib.

#19
jessieduck11:55 am, 06 Nov 12

God I love the riotact. You just never know who’s going to pop up with exactly the info you need. Thanks Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd. Above and beyond what I thought I was going to get from this thread but just perfect. I’ve contacted a few places mentioned on the thread to get quotes.

Cheers all.

#20
Madam Cholet12:45 pm, 06 Nov 12

Contrary to a response on here, we were happy with Argus in Hume. Did two doors fro us, back and front – one a sliding door. No problems with turning up and the guy who fitted them was really professional.

#21
Evil_Kitten3:55 pm, 06 Nov 12

bundah said :

Ah yes but is it crimsafe?

Duffbowl said :

Depending on which one you’ve bought, they are reasonably easily popped open by pulling on the centre of the grille, and levering back the door jamb. Last time I played with one of these, it was open in about 90 seconds. As I said before, any security system or product is at best a deterrent or delayer.

Yeah it’s certainly not high end lol. It’s really just for some air/stop the insects when I’m at home. Also an extra barrier if I answer the door – I can see who it is before I unlock the screen.

If I leave the house I have proper deadlocked doors.

#22
foxygirl5:19 pm, 07 Nov 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Not a problem.

also another thing to note, either ask for the duel selector lock so if locked by key cannot be unlocked by the snib, get screen for your sidelight, or get the sidelight reglazed with laminated safety glass(dont use toughened no matter how the glazier trys to spin it, its easy to break and once its broken its simple acces, the only upside is the wide varity of patterns.). There is no point installing a flash security door when a thief can just break the sidelight next to it and reach through to unlock the door with the snib.

do you think it is worth getting security screens for glass sliding doors?

I have a balcony with 2 glass windows and a glass sliding door in the middle. I’d like to make this more secure, but have heard that the security doors in these sliding systems are easy to break into

and advice Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd ? And any idea of price?

#23
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd6:21 pm, 07 Nov 12

foxygirl said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Not a problem.

also another thing to note, either ask for the duel selector lock so if locked by key cannot be unlocked by the snib, get screen for your sidelight, or get the sidelight reglazed with laminated safety glass(dont use toughened no matter how the glazier trys to spin it, its easy to break and once its broken its simple acces, the only upside is the wide varity of patterns.). There is no point installing a flash security door when a thief can just break the sidelight next to it and reach through to unlock the door with the snib.

do you think it is worth getting security screens for glass sliding doors?

I have a balcony with 2 glass windows and a glass sliding door in the middle. I’d like to make this more secure, but have heard that the security doors in these sliding systems are easy to break into

and advice Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd ? And any idea of price?

No easier than a hinged door as long as its got a three point lock. I’ve had to break into a sliding security door where the lock had failed, it took a long amount of time and very noisy. Noisy enough that any decent neighbours would disturb the intruder or call police
Same with front doors though, you need to spend the dollars on screening the sidelight as well. Most sliding doors and sidelights are either 4mm or 5mm toughened glass where you can literally explode them with no danger to yourself by kicking it once.

Price in a standard colour frame and standard size should not exceed more than around 900 for the slider and 550 for fixed panel.

#24
wrangler9:17 pm, 16 Jan 13

Had screen door fixed by Canberra Security Doors and Screens. Very helpful and would recommend.

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