104 and Mix celebrating the ratings

johnboy said :

People buying John laws CDs in petrol stations are best ignored

Indeed. This album cover is…um…ah…(and although I hate people who do this) indescribable. I have never listened to the contents.

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/john_laws/youve_never_been_trucked_like_this_before/

I miss when Wil Anderson and Adam Spencer used to do JJJ in the mornings. Must’ve been ten years ago, but God, I cannot stand 104.7. Doesn’t the photo look exactly like what you’d expect 2 Canberran morning show hosts to look like?

Evil_Kitten said :

LSWCHP said :

These dudes are tragic. I listen to ABC-FM for news and a bit of current affairs while commuting. If they’re broadcasting Parliament and the standard of debate is terrible as usual then it’s time for George Thorogood or Bob Marley or the Sex Pistols or whoever else is on the nearest CD.

I’d rather stab myself in the ear with a fork than listen to commercial radio with the fake banter, horribly forced laughter at nothing and terrible ads.

HAHAHA

You still listen to CDs.

Digital music sales only exceeded physical format sales for the first time this year.
Admittedly once you take into account illegal music sources, digital has probably outstripped physical formats for a lot longer. But CD and vinyl aren’t dead yet, nor rare.

LSWCHP said :

These dudes are tragic. I listen to ABC-FM for news and a bit of current affairs while commuting. If they’re broadcasting Parliament and the standard of debate is terrible as usual then it’s time for George Thorogood or Bob Marley or the Sex Pistols or whoever else is on the nearest CD.

I’d rather stab myself in the ear with a fork than listen to commercial radio with the fake banter, horribly forced laughter at nothing and terrible ads.

HAHAHA

You still listen to CDs.

LSWCHP said :

These dudes are tragic. I listen to ABC-FM for news and a bit of current affairs while commuting. If they’re broadcasting Parliament and the standard of debate is terrible as usual then it’s time for George Thorogood or Bob Marley or the Sex Pistols or whoever else is on the nearest CD.

I’d rather stab myself in the ear with a fork than listen to commercial radio with the fake banter, horribly forced laughter at nothing and terrible ads.

I’ll take your fork and raise it to a sharpened chopstick in each ear.

Though my remedies are Bach and Beethoven and jazz.

These dudes are tragic. I listen to ABC-FM for news and a bit of current affairs while commuting. If they’re broadcasting Parliament and the standard of debate is terrible as usual then it’s time for George Thorogood or Bob Marley or the Sex Pistols or whoever else is on the nearest CD.

I’d rather stab myself in the ear with a fork than listen to commercial radio with the fake banter, horribly forced laughter at nothing and terrible ads.

It always annoys me when 104.7 claim how awesome they are by winning the ratings again. They don’t have any competition! And by competition, I mean another “normal” commercial station that plays modern/popular/top40 type music and doesn’t cater to a particular group (ie, golden oldies, easy listening, talk back).

At least Sydney and other places have Today FM, MMM, Nova (I think they all still exist, but you get the picture anyway) to compete in the “mainstream commercial” type category!

Bigsy has destroyed that brekkie show, and as for Knuckles I still don’t understand her contribution to Scotty and Nige’s show..she is an annoying nobody.

How is bigsy fat? Can you post a photo f yourself?

muntychops said :

Biggsy get on a ya Chiko roll bike you fat cow

You *did* see the tubby b!tch in the black t-shirt at top, didn’t you?

EvanJames said :

I’ll often listen to Scotty and Nige talking, but turn over to 106 for the music, and claw desperately at the channel button when the two boring zombies come on. the only other breakfast folk I remember enjoying talking was back in the olden days, on Triple J when Mikey Robbins and Paul McDermott (and the Sandman) were ruling. Scotty and Nige are pretty funny.

I think we may be similar vintage, but no … no Scotty and Nige are not funny. Not even close. A Grampa Simpson quote comes to mind: “I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems weird and scary to me, and it’ll happen to you too.”

Scotty and Inge try way too hard. They would be much more enjoyable to listen to if they just acted themselves.

Also, knuckles has been part of he show for a long time. Why is she still not named in the show headline?

muntychops said :

But 9am is when my iPod or CDs go on.

+1 to this.

As soon a Solly is done for the day it’s time to fire up Spotify or TuneIn.

Spykler said :

Pork Hunt said :

c_c said :

*When I say same songs playing on both stations, I mean at the exact same time.

They are the same company broadcasting from the same building. We have no choice in Canberra for commercial FM. ACCC is silent on this.

True, but the difference in their brekkie shows is enormous- Scotty and Nige have delivered the goods in fine fashion for a while now and have never dropped the ball, whilst at 106 they are still struggling to get a breakfast team together. The current crew there needs to be shown the door- fast!!

Argghhh, I disagree on this on a couple of counts. The MIX breakfast team has improved since Rod came on board earlier this year. Overall it seems a much tighter show although I agree at times it loses the plot!

Scottie and Nige can be funny….and crap as well. Often in the same segment.

Both these team are infinitely better than Fifi and Jules in the afternoons. Total rubbish.
Its what you can put up with on the drive to or from work!

Forget the morning shows, try the afternoon one on 104.7 with Fifi and Jules if you really some inane crap that will having you clawing out your eardrums with with your car keys.

Personally even since i put a digital radio in my car its been great. Even though i mostly listen to 666 digital and grandstand digital, having other choices there are great. Don’t mind a bit of SBS chill or even JJJ underground or SBS chill. Hell even popasia is ok sometimes.

dtc said :

Commercial FM in Canberra. Does anyone really listen to this inane tripe?

Seriously?

Listen to all the old people complaining about what the young folk like and the crap music. Not like in my day, give me some elvis/stones/america/chisel/nirvana (*depends on age) and I’ll show you REAL music.

It’s not about the music, it is about the ads and the d***head presenters.

I love modern music, we are in a glorious abundance of every genre, tens of millions of bands, more than at any other time in history. Which is precisely why I don’t listen to stations which have been repeating and rehashing the same old fake artists for decades.

How can anyone put up with their musical exposure being distilled down to just Scooter Brown’s latest plastic miming strippers?

Compare 104 to radio reddit, which features and endless flow of tens of thousands new independent artists, it is no contest. Trying to defend 104 on the basis of its music is like defending a toilet on the basis of its contents.

Is that picture for real? The fact that they are still promoting cheesy photos of radio show duos is laughable. I don’t listen to commercial radio or watch any commercial tv, primarily because of the ads, in addition to the fact that the quality of presenters is woeful. Even those that make it to the big time on nationally syndicated shows are crap. People who believe their own hype and then come out from behind the mike to offend us in the visual medium. the tv world is littered with them, very few of whom are funny or interesting.

And what is the definition of ‘listener’….someone who listens in the car because tats the station it’s always on?

Commercial FM in Canberra. Does anyone really listen to this inane tripe?

Seriously?

Listen to all the old people complaining about what the young folk like and the crap music. Not like in my day, give me some elvis/stones/america/chisel/nirvana (*depends on age) and I’ll show you REAL music.

Everyone knows that Canberra commercial radio died the day Cameron and Donna turned up to work to find they had been sacked.

I’ll often listen to Scotty and Nige talking, but turn over to 106 for the music, and claw desperately at the channel button when the two boring zombies come on. the only other breakfast folk I remember enjoying talking was back in the olden days, on Triple J when Mikey Robbins and Paul McDermott (and the Sandman) were ruling. Scotty and Nige are pretty funny.

So Canberran’s prefer Bach, Shostakovich, Beethoven, Mozart and Sibelius over a shallow loud-mouth named Bigsy?

Well, there’s a surprise!

I will say that as morning crews go, Scotty and Nige aren’t bad. They do have a real dynamic.

I’d certainly rank them ahead of 666’s Ross Solly.

Heck, I’d even rank Bigzy and Stooge ahead of 666 for the simple fact that while their deplorable banality is painful, I’m not paying XXc a day for it.

Pork Hunt said :

c_c said :

*When I say same songs playing on both stations, I mean at the exact same time.

They are the same company broadcasting from the same building. We have no choice in Canberra for commercial FM. ACCC is silent on this.

True, but the difference in their brekkie shows is enormous- Scotty and Nige have delivered the goods in fine fashion for a while now and have never dropped the ball, whilst at 106 they are still struggling to get a breakfast team together. The current crew there needs to be shown the door- fast!!

It is not the DJs who choose the music, the record industry pays the Austereo network to play those 4 songs over and over. It is literally pay for plays and cash for comment, the most appropriate term for it is “corporate propaganda”.

c_c said :

*When I say same songs playing on both stations, I mean at the exact same time.

They are the same company broadcasting from the same building. We have no choice in Canberra for commercial FM. ACCC is silent on this.

muntychops said :

Scotty and Nige remain strong

I do like these two, was giving up on finding any local radio show over here that wasn’t bland.

Masquara said :

muntychops said :

Mix and 104 have over 210,000 people listening each week, CA and Cc have 74,500. If I was advertising a business (which I’m not) I think I’d be utilizing the option with just under 3 times as many listeners. All of these press releases have spin attached, but Mix is a 40+ station and has more listeners than the am’s combined

You clearly aren’t a marketer any more than you are a business person! Different audiences, different advertising rates. Lots of advertising categories suit CC and CA. And there are other aspects – the attention factor in between the music is only one. The FM stations differ from the AM stations on that score too.

The constant breaks/ silence in air programming especially on 2CC while they pipe in the shows from Sydney that actually rate make me laugh, also when Ray Hadley gave it to that Jorian idiot last week speak volumes for the quality of the local AM product.

Every time Riotact posts Canberra’s radio ratings the ol “anything commercial is the devil” arguement arises, and how JJJ or the mighty iPod is the only thing anyone who isn’t a slack jawed yokel should use? Seems that JJJ hasn’t gone close to beating the commercial entities in Canberra since, well forever.

To each their own I guess, and I’ll wait for the same bleating when the next results get released.

Hopefully though Mix will fix the debacle of a breakfast show before then, or I might just jump on board the hate wagon.

The local FM stations are ridiculous. Repeating the same songs at the same time day after day, DJ’s (if you can call them that) that have no clue about music. If we’re lucky they will play 4 songs between 6am and 6.30. The rest is just inane dribble and ads. During the day I listen to Planetrock.com. They play more music in an hour than Mix would play between 6 and 9. The main problem is that you have 2 morning programs supposedly competing against each other so neither of them try very hard.

*When I say same songs playing on both stations, I mean at the exact same time.

Keijidosha said :

It shouldn’t be surprising that commercial FM radio stations have the largest number of listeners. They’ve set a clear goal of appealing to the lowest common denominator and competition between stations ensures a steadfast race to the bottom.

What competition? Three times this month already, I’ve flicked between 106 and 104 and heard the exact same song playing on both stations!

Even when they manage to play different songs, they sounds mind numbingly similar now. ‘No sports, no rock, no information; for mindless chatter, we’re your station.’ – life imitating art.

Keijidosha said :

It shouldn’t be surprising that commercial FM radio stations have the largest number of listeners. They’ve set a clear goal of appealing to the lowest common denominator and competition between stations ensures a steadfast race to the bottom.

I was about to write something similar but you hit the nail perfectly on the head. But Ill go that one step further and say that anyone who legitimately enjoys listening to such puerile, plastic, designed for morons, noise pollution, utter garbage are the reason western society is so socially backward.

“Commercial anything – and you thought the audience couldn’t get any stupider”

muntychops said :

Mix and 104 have over 210,000 people listening each week, CA and Cc have 74,500. If I was advertising a business (which I’m not) I think I’d be utilizing the option with just under 3 times as many listeners. All of these press releases have spin attached, but Mix is a 40+ station and has more listeners than the am’s combined

You clearly aren’t a marketer any more than you are a business person! Different audiences, different advertising rates. Lots of advertising categories suit CC and CA. And there are other aspects – the attention factor in between the music is only one. The FM stations differ from the AM stations on that score too.

It shouldn’t be surprising that commercial FM radio stations have the largest number of listeners. They’ve set a clear goal of appealing to the lowest common denominator and competition between stations ensures a steadfast race to the bottom.

Wait, 210,000 canberrans listen to 104?

2/3rds of the population still listen to the radio?

I’m guessing this counts shops and work sites, but even so, it means most public servants, even with access to CDs, MP3s and podcasts, still turn on a radio regularly.

Please, someone enlighten me, why? What benefit can be gleaned from a daily dose of ads and charts? I haven’t turned on a radio of my own compulsion for well over a decade, and when it is foisted on me it seems even more quaint and ridiculous than television.

We have access to very nearly every song in existence, whenever and where ever, how could any single commercial station compete with that?

colourful sydney racing identity said :

watto23 said :

Hang on even their press release has MIX at second with 12.3%, yet 666 has better figures with 14.9%.

I thought the numbers dictated the places 🙂

It’s the magic of radio!

“Magic”? Is that what they’re calling it these days?

paperboy said :

It’s odd that MIX failed to mention that ABC Classic FM breakfast (8.3%) now outrates the new look MIX breakfast team (7.6%)

That bloody awful blowsy biggsie female UGH. Get.Rid.Of.Her. Can’t they find someone reasonably intelligent to voice their thoughts? I don’t want to hear hers, “thoughts” is not an accurate term for the nonsense she gabbles.

SnapperJack said :

The so-called “victory” by the commercial FM stations isn’t really a victory at all. Their victories came in the younger demos – people with less money than baby boomers, senior executives and self-funded retirees.

Because Canberra FM operate stations pitched at different audiences there are very few opportunities to cross advertise whereas Capital Radio’s stations (2CA and 2CC) are both pitched at the over 40 demo so they can offer advertisers advertising on both stations with a far greater number of the people with greater spending money.

2CA and 2CC have 19.4% of the over 40s, MIX has 10.9% and FM104.7 has only 7.1%. Those figures are far more impressive than FM stations trying to talk up their ratings for a bunch of transient, superficial breakfast jocks talking to kids and young couples working at Maccas or else mortgaged to the eyeballs.

Mix and 104 have over 210,000 people listening each week, CA and Cc have 74,500. If I was advertising a business (which I’m not) I think I’d be utilizing the option with just under 3 times as many listeners. All of these press releases have spin attached, but Mix is a 40+ station and has more listeners than the am’s combined

watto23 said :

Hang on even their press release has MIX at second with 12.3%, yet 666 has better figures with 14.9%.

I thought the numbers dictated the places 🙂

It’s the magic of radio!

The so-called “victory” by the commercial FM stations isn’t really a victory at all. Their victories came in the younger demos – people with less money than baby boomers, senior executives and self-funded retirees.

Because Canberra FM operate stations pitched at different audiences there are very few opportunities to cross advertise whereas Capital Radio’s stations (2CA and 2CC) are both pitched at the over 40 demo so they can offer advertisers advertising on both stations with a far greater number of the people with greater spending money.

2CA and 2CC have 19.4% of the over 40s, MIX has 10.9% and FM104.7 has only 7.1%. Those figures are far more impressive than FM stations trying to talk up their ratings for a bunch of transient, superficial breakfast jocks talking to kids and young couples working at Maccas or else mortgaged to the eyeballs.

I guess this proves what most people think. Mix has been dying a slow death in breakfast only for years. Ross the boss and Scotty and Nige remain strong and 104 suffers after 9am cause they play the same 7 songs everyday (well it seems like it)

As for iPods I think a lot of people enjoy the interaction of radio and have done for decades. You can’t talk to an iPod or win prizes from it, hence why radio still rates pretty high in nearly all Aussie markets. But 9am is when my iPod or CDs go on.

Wonder how long the team on mix breakfast lasts? Looking back through ol riot act articles that’s their lowest figure ever it would seem. Biggsy get on a ya Chiko roll bike you fat cow

Hang on even their press release has MIX at second with 12.3%, yet 666 has better figures with 14.9%.

I thought the numbers dictated the places 🙂

I don’t know why the Austereo network even bother pretending each local station is unique, its all the same noxious swill regurgitated by American media dinosaurs, and its exactly the same s***ty songs and shallow hosts in every city across the planet.

It astounds me that so many people just accept the trash and ads, have these people never heard of Ipods?

“…the most number of people…”

Seriously?!

As always, take away the station spin and see how the industry looks at it:
http://radiotoday.com.au/news/whats-new/1203-canberra-survey-2-released.html

How much longer can MIX 106.3 continue to bleed (haemorrhage?) listeners in the breakfast slot with Biggsy (and Rod)? Just 7.6 in this survey, massively down from the 12.3 in Survey 1 (April) 2012 and even lower than the historical breakfast low for MIX of 10.2 in Survey 2 2011.

Memo to Canberra FM: you can’t polish a pile of vomit. Clearly even “remixing” (ie rehashing) the show in the evening, those crap P!nk tv ads and having Rod and Biggsy drop in for a chat with other presenters during the day isn’t working. Please listen to your audience and lose them. Now.

It’s odd that MIX failed to mention that ABC Classic FM breakfast (8.3%) now outrates the new look MIX breakfast team (7.6%)