15 November 2009

Second Hand Sunday - 29 November 2009

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Second Hand Sunday is on again on 29 November 2009. Details are on the TAMS website.
I must say, I’m getting more and more annoyed with the concept. When I lived in Melbourne, we had hard waste day a few times a year. You could put all your junk (old furniture, broken toasters and TVs, pretty much anything you could Freecycle) on the footpath and it would disappear within a few days. If the neighbours didn’t take it, the hard waste collection truck would.

The rules for Second Hand Sunday make it much more administrative effort for the giver. You have to register with TAMS, print out a poster to display with the stuff on your nature strip or driveway, supervise the site to ensure that only the stuff you’re giving away is taken, and after the event it’s your job to do a tip run (or put back in the garage) anything that wasn’t taken. Apart from the convenience for collectors of being able to check the TAMS website for addresses where stuff is being given away, this seems like more work than it needs to be. I often see old furniture etc on nature strips with a “FREE – TAKE ME!” sign on it, and Freecycle in Canberra is quite a busy group. Still, it’s a good opportunity for people to de-clutter – hope it results in some clean and tidy garages and sheds.

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Jim Jones said :

vg said :

“and after the event it’s your job to do a tip run (or put back in the garage) anything that wasn’t taken.”

Oh my hat! Would you like TAMS to pop in and wipe your kids’ bottoms for them as well.

I’m sure people in this town get the gist of it. Don’t worry about registering, put the stuff on your nature strip and stop whingeing.

“When I lived in Melbourne”

Guess what, you don’t any more.

You’ve got so much love to give.

Thanks, I try to spread it liberally

I’m sure that ACT labour promisedto introduce a Hard Rubbish Collection as part of their election promises.

I can’t find anything online though – it is so annoying searching for anything ‘act’ related, as ‘act’ is also such a common word.

vg said :

“and after the event it’s your job to do a tip run (or put back in the garage) anything that wasn’t taken.”

Oh my hat! Would you like TAMS to pop in and wipe your kids’ bottoms for them as well.

I’m sure people in this town get the gist of it. Don’t worry about registering, put the stuff on your nature strip and stop whingeing.

“When I lived in Melbourne”

Guess what, you don’t any more.

You’ve got so much love to give.

This is ACT Governments attempt to look “green” by doing bugger all to serve its residents and squeeze even more money out of them at the tip. It is a disgrace that we can’t even dispose green waste. Its about time they pulled their finger out and brought our services in to line with every other Government and Council in Australia. The green excuse is a cop out and a rather poor attempt at that.

there’s nothing that Second Hand Sunday does that cannot be done any other day of the week for less effort

True. But they will be thinking “oh, if everyone put stuff on the nature strip at random then the city would look a mess blah blah blah”. Then there’s the issue that some lawyer has advised they may be liable if someone trips over a bookcase on the nature strip (govt land) when the resident hasn’t registered blah blah blah.

I agree the administrative aspects are a PITA. Which is why I never pay attention to SHS and get rid of my surplus stuff via Freecycle or direct delivery to Revolve or the Salvos if it will fit in my car.

Green waste I have a problem with because the only way to get it recycled is to DIY at home or DIY delivery which I cannot do. I tried and tried to get a trash pack for recycling but couldn’t. Which means I have to pay $$$ for someone ELSE to dump my green waste in the landfill, which I could do (in theory) by putting it in my wheelie bin except I’m not allowed.

I agree with Miz that there are many aspects of the Nowaste policy that are a crock.

#4 +1

I already use other recycling services like Freecycle or taking it to the tip myself. What annoys me is the Govt trying to get us to jump through administrative hoops (like register, put up their poster etc) when we can already do the same thing without the administrative silliness. People are more likely to put in extra effort when there’s a benefit to doing so – and there’s nothing that Second Hand Sunday does that cannot be done any other day of the week for less effort.

Gungahlin Al1:42 pm 16 Nov 09

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Govt-sponsored hard rubbish removal sends precisely the wrong message about waste – that it’s not your problem or responsibility, and that it’s somebody else’s job to make it all go away for you. Accumulate all you like, and when you’re bored of it, a public servant will make sure you don’t have to suffer any consequences.

Hopefully hauling stuff to the tip will make us all think more about recycling, repairing and resuing our existing stuff and buying less crap that’s just going to end up the same way in a few years’ time. Leave SHS as it is – if you can get somebody else to recycle it, then great, but if not, it’s your problem, not ratepayers’.

One of those rare times I agree with WMC.
If the routine is too much, then just check out of anyone else is registered near you, and then jam your stuff out with a guarantee of passing ‘shoppers’.

Or you could do as we did earlier this year – letterboxed the street, got another 6 houses all to chip in to a street garage sale on the Saturday, with plenty of people coming through because of the number in one area. Then anything that was left went out the next morning for SHS. And pfftt to ‘paperwork’.

Not a thing left. And with the garage space afterwards, got a bank of 4 2-door cupboards from Magnet Mart and put everything away. One spacious tidy garage and no cars parked outside. And we got to know some neighbours.

Took couches to the ip this mroning, thinking we didn’t hav one of these collections here.

Woody Mann-Caruso11:21 am 16 Nov 09

Govt-sponsored hard rubbish removal sends precisely the wrong message about waste – that it’s not your problem or responsibility, and that it’s somebody else’s job to make it all go away for you. Accumulate all you like, and when you’re bored of it, a public servant will make sure you don’t have to suffer any consequences.

Hopefully hauling stuff to the tip will make us all think more about recycling, repairing and resuing our existing stuff and buying less crap that’s just going to end up the same way in a few years’ time. Leave SHS as it is – if you can get somebody else to recycle it, then great, but if not, it’s your problem, not ratepayers’.

Seems the rest of Australia has proper hard rubbish collections. Even Queanbeyan. If they can do it, so can we. I hate second hand sunday and think it’s time we accepted that there is a such a thing as hard rubbish instead of pretending it doesn’t exist (like the faux ‘no waste’ policy and the renamed tip – now falsely labelled as a ‘resource management centre’ FFS) and I am sick of being bullsh!tted about with excuses why we don’t have this service.

SolarPowered12:33 pm 15 Nov 09

EMD, I couldn’t agree more. No kerbside pickup days, and no green waste bins – and yet I am paying more in rates here than I did in Sydney.

“and after the event it’s your job to do a tip run (or put back in the garage) anything that wasn’t taken.”

Oh my hat! Would you like TAMS to pop in and wipe your kids’ bottoms for them as well.

I’m sure people in this town get the gist of it. Don’t worry about registering, put the stuff on your nature strip and stop whingeing.

“When I lived in Melbourne”

Guess what, you don’t any more.

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