But have you tried the buses?

Spectra said :

farnarkler said :

Well sorry to burst your bubble but reoffenders like this are pretty convincing evidence that the soft approach just does not work.

No, they’re not. They’re no more than anecdotal evidence, and naturally they’re the only ones you hear about. “Joe Blogs was let off with a fine and a slap on the wrist, and never offended again” is hardly likely to run as the lead story on tonight’s news, no matter how often it happens. All cases like this prove are that there are some people who don’t get the message and for whom a different (perhaps much harsher) approach is needed. They prove nothing about whether the approach is effective in a broader statistical sense.

Thank you Spectra for a realistic view of the criminal justice / media system…..

Another $50 fine to swell the ACT’s coffers! Everybody wins!

I’d say it’s a case where his car should be crushed, too stupid!

Noooooo — That would cost us $75, so we (The ACT) will be down by $25…

facet said :

Of course the civil libertarians will shriek about how cruel it would be and that criminals like this should be pampered and counselled and given a million chances to redeem themselves. Well sorry to burst your bubble but reoffenders like this are pretty convincing evidence that the soft approach just does not work.

+1 Being a member of society entails rights and responsibilities. Act in an irresponsible way and you lose your “rights”.

Sorry, but the entire legal framework of Western Civilisation disagrees with you, from the Magna Carta through the Declaration of Independence and the Geneva Convention.

Another $50 fine to swell the ACT’s coffers! Everybody wins!

I’d say it’s a case where his car should be crushed, too stupid!

Another $50 fine to swell the ACT’s coffers! Everybody wins!

farnarkler said :

Well sorry to burst your bubble but reoffenders like this are pretty convincing evidence that the soft approach just does not work.

No, they’re not. They’re no more than anecdotal evidence, and naturally they’re the only ones you hear about. “Joe Blogs was let off with a fine and a slap on the wrist, and never offended again” is hardly likely to run as the lead story on tonight’s news, no matter how often it happens. All cases like this prove are that there are some people who don’t get the message and for whom a different (perhaps much harsher) approach is needed. They prove nothing about whether the approach is effective in a broader statistical sense.

Mistake acknowledged GBT.

Of course the civil libertarians will shriek about how cruel it would be and that criminals like this should be pampered and counselled and given a million chances to redeem themselves. Well sorry to burst your bubble but reoffenders like this are pretty convincing evidence that the soft approach just does not work.

+1 Being a member of society entails rights and responsibilities. Act in an irresponsible way and you lose your “rights”.

Toe the line, not tow.

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Grammar Nazi.

Short of executing or maiming people like this so they can never drive again, what does society do with them? It’s obvious this individual just doesn’t care and knows the ACT judicial system is a paper tiger.

First thing they can do is confiscate the car permanently. Not their car, tough luck, the owner should have checked the license before loaning their car. If its a stolen car, its returned to owners. Then each year the cars can be sold off.