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By shanefos 27 November 2008 48

With ABC Childcare Centres having gone belly-up and the Federal Government having forked out however-many millions of dollars to keep the centres open, the Canberra Times has a story about the ABC Childcare Centres in the Canberra region that will be “subject to further review”.

ABC Childcare’s webiste has an extended list here.

Given how hard it is already to find childcare places in the ACT, if the listed ABC centres close it is going to cause a world of pain for a lot of families.

And the obvious flow-on – parents having to stay at home to look after their kids – will be just one of the effects.

Businesses will be affected, Public Service productivity will be affected.

The extreme cynic in me can’t help asking though, if all of these parents end up having to give up work to stay at home with the kids, their vacated positions will need to be filled, won’t they? So, won’t that have a (granted, very small) positive impact on the employment/unemployment figures? (i.e. “X-number of new jobs were created this month”).

Anyway, I really feel for any families that will be affected by the (possible) closures of these centres.

Personally, I’ve had to take numerous days off work over the past few months in order to look after the kids. But, luckily, I am in a position where a day here or there isn’t going to lose me my job (I’d hate to work for a less forgiving and less understanding employer!) and my kids don’t go to an ABC Childcare Centre.

Anyone else on RiotACT have any first hand experience of the woes of getting good, ongoing childcare in the ACT?
Anyone personally affected by the ABC debacle?

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shanefos 3:15 pm 10 Dec 08

ABC have announced this afternoon that these ABC Childcare Centres in the ACT will remain open in 2009.
I guess this news will come as a relief to any parents with kids in those few centres in this list that were originally a chance to close.

sepi 8:04 pm 28 Nov 08

update on this – russell, aranda and jerra are all defence centres, which are under review ar defence’s request and unlikely to close.

so we are at status quo chilcare crisis in the ACT, not disaster.

Aeek 9:10 pm 27 Nov 08

High risk? More like Ponzi scheme.

thetruth 8:47 pm 27 Nov 08

tom-tom said :

australia has a long and proud tradition of excellent public schooling from K-12; and its always amazed me that early childcare does’t have as much of an emphasis put on it. (i’m quite aware there are some excellent govt. run childcare centres, i just think there should be more.)

i say the govt buys up ABC’s infrastructure and operates the centres themselves. the kids stay in care, the parents dont quit their jobs and the staff still keep theres. perfect way to spend some of the future fund.

What???????? Why then has there been a thirty year drift to private? Governments cannot close under performing or poorly attended schools without a howl of protest “little johnny will have to go ten minute down the road or make new friends”.

Publoc ownership does not have a good record of success either. It was not private ownership that made this crash it was the high risk business practice of one operator. There are many cases of publically owned organisations that fail because of this type of behaviour too Rhodium for example.

deezagood 8:23 pm 27 Nov 08

In my experience, the places that have the vacancies are probably the centres that you would least like to put your kids into (they have places for a reason). Given the day care shortages in Canberra, I think places that don’t have waiting lists are a bit suspicious.

The Russell Hill closure is an interesting one, given that the waiting lists for that place are very long (presumably due to the ability of parents to salary sacrifice at that centre). It is a big centre too, so this will really hurt numerous DoD workers and of course ABC staff next year. Maybe Defence (who foolishly switched from a non-for-profit provider to ABC a few years ago) can quickly negotiate another contract and keep the Defence centres open?

MWF 7:36 pm 27 Nov 08

“So, won’t that have a (granted, very small) positive impact on the employment/unemployment figures? (i.e. “X-number of new jobs were created this month”).”

Possibly, however if it is married/partnered people who are forced to stay at home and not work then their non-involvement in the workforce will NOT be seen in the unemployment stats. You aren’t really “unemployed” if you have a partner who is working and earning above a certain level – a level high enough for the working partner to NOT be entitled to any Newstart allowance, IIRC.

Whatsup 7:07 pm 27 Nov 08

Jim Jones said :

Scary stuff.

I’ve been booked in since conception (the baby’s not born yet) I’ve been visiting regularly, and still don’t know whether I’ll manage to get a spot.

I don’t know if you will get a spot but hopefully the baby will. 😉

sepi 6:59 pm 27 Nov 08

Julia Gillard has said the govt isn’t in the business of running childcare centres.

Pity.

tom-tom 6:44 pm 27 Nov 08

australia has a long and proud tradition of excellent public schooling from K-12; and its always amazed me that early childcare does’t have as much of an emphasis put on it. (i’m quite aware there are some excellent govt. run childcare centres, i just think there should be more.)

i say the govt buys up ABC’s infrastructure and operates the centres themselves. the kids stay in care, the parents dont quit their jobs and the staff still keep theres. perfect way to spend some of the future fund.

shanefos 3:56 pm 27 Nov 08

My experience has been if you’re in the right place at the right time you can often be offered a permanent spot without having to wait very long. But after being in the system for a while, I wonder now how many people we might have leapfrogged on the waiting list, just because it was more convenient for the centre to put us in because all of our info was current and up to date and we happened to be there when a space opened up.
VY, sounds like you got very lucky getting a spot.

sepi 3:25 pm 27 Nov 08

inner south? aging area has more spots.

the inner north/gungahlin baby boom has booked up this side of town.

The boss and I pulled Young Master Berlina out of Family Day Care earlier this year, to put him in a child care centre. We found one within 5 mins drive of our house, within a day or so of looking, which had several available places. We took one such place, and have found the centre to be fantastic. I was really surprised at how easy it was to find a place – did we just get really lucky?

PickedANickname 3:04 pm 27 Nov 08

I booked at 12 places at 5 weeks pregnant.

Only one had a place after my child was 11 months old.

sepi 3:00 pm 27 Nov 08

Those YWCA vacancies are for 4-5 year olds Mon-Wed only.

Family daycare is also booked up so far that you can’t join the lists these days. I’ve also heard bad stories about the family daycarer suddenly deciding to try another career and everyone is left literally holding the baby again.

poptop 2:54 pm 27 Nov 08

The YWCA in Civic is showing vacancies.

Back when the world was young and I still needed childcare, it was exactly the same problem. I ended up with the kids in family day care and everyone thrived although the kids were better at speaking Spanish than English for a while . . .

Jim Jones 2:48 pm 27 Nov 08

Scary stuff.

I’ve been booked in since conception (the baby’s not born yet) I’ve been visiting regularly, and still don’t know whether I’ll manage to get a spot.

sepi 2:45 pm 27 Nov 08

Thanks guys – I actually do have a spot. I’m one of the people with a permanent spot, who is hanging onto it for grim death.

I’m using my existing daycare days (and paying for them) even tho I’m off work for 6 months, cos if I give them up I’ll never get them back. This also means putting my baby in earlier than I want to really – I’d rather wait til they are 12 months, but at the moment, unless they turn one at the start of the enrolment year in Jan, you can forget it.

If it was Red Hill or nothing I’d definitely do that to keep my job tho (although I’m at the Watson end of civic). In an ideal world we could choose daycare centres based on quality, and location, but at the moment it is take what you can get.

thetruth 2:22 pm 27 Nov 08

luther_bendross said :

I suppose that my underlying worry here is that this was bound to happen when one man (Mr. E. Groves) tries to make a personal fortune at the expense of families and their children.

Look without defending the guy too much (because I just don’t know the whole story like most with an opinion) – at least he puts it on the line and trys to create something – yes it might be all smoke and mirrors, but hey whats stopping most public servants (50% 0f the Canberra population) getting off their high horse and trying to create something. They are just too scared of failure (and the resulting kicking that follows it).

That said – have you seen his now ex-wife????? don’t worry he’s doing time!

shanefos 2:17 pm 27 Nov 08

sepi said :

Poptop there is not a single vacancy in the civic area for kids under 4 according to that website.

I’d be amazed if there was – most centres tell you there is a wait of up to 6 months or more. Some people book their kids in before they are born and still don’t get a spot.

Talk to any of the centres in the Belconnen area and you might (if you’re lucky) get put on a waiting list for a permanent spot. The place we have the kids in (occasional care is all we can get) only offers permanent spots to the people that already have the permanent spots, so you’ve got Buckley’s of getting a place if you haven’t had your kids there forever! Occasional care is basically non-existent in the centres in Belconnen and the places that do family day care in the area stopped taking names for their waitlists in about June this year!
Thankfully, my kids have spots lined up in one of the Early Childhood Centres opening in the New Year. But, again, even these places (that haven’t even opened yet) are full!

poptop 2:10 pm 27 Nov 08

Red Hill has some. Is another 10 clicks too far?

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