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ACT Pollies receive 4.1% pay rise

By Felix the Cat 11 June 2008 37

ABC news is reporting that the ACT Remuneration Tribunal has given the OK for ACT Pollies to receive a 4.1% pay rise. a backbencher to $113,000.

Backbencher will now get $113,000.

The pay rise is 2 per cent less than last year’s increase.

Chief Minister Jon Stanhope’s salary will increase to $236,000.

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Skidbladnir 4:28 pm 16 Jun 08

AG Canberra said :

I understand Saddam Hussein had a good way of making his staff accountable, maybe we should try that for a while and see how we go!

The plastic shredder rumours were unverifiable, and viewed as propaganda.
But, I like your style!

ant 11:31 am 14 Jun 08

re teachers, something has to be done to raise the standard a bit. See in teh Australian, there’s a report about a QLD grammar guide for QLD teachers is riddled with grammatical errors:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23855992-12332,00.html

shauno 11:16 am 14 Jun 08

nyssa76 said :

You know what, the next time nurses, teachers and police ask for a pay rise and people whinge, I’ll remember this thread and how people are so easily complacent to give pollies a pay rise.

I’m all for Teachers getting more money. I actually thought the pay rise you guys had negotiated for you was pretty pathetic. What was it 12% over 3 years that’s less then inflation.

I agree with that story in the Australian a few weeks ago where the top rate for teachers should be up around 130k at the moment its way to low to attract the people we want to teach our kids and keep the good ones in the job.

madocci 9:28 pm 13 Jun 08

Here’s a thought, if we actually paid them more we might get some actually competent people working for the territory. I was astounded at Stanhope’s salary. He is earnign less than most of the IT and PM contractors in this town! He would be lucky to earn enough to buy a house in a half decent area. Its absurd to me when people heading private companies are earning 10 times that amount as a standard. I would be interested to see how much someone running a similar sized budget in the private sector was paid in comparison.

It makes complete sense now why we have absolute nuf nufs running this town!

nyssa76 8:29 pm 13 Jun 08

You know what, the next time nurses, teachers and police ask for a pay rise and people whinge, I’ll remember this thread and how people are so easily complacent to give pollies a pay rise.

peterh 1:52 pm 13 Jun 08

Gungahlin Al said :

I’m with Thumper. Having been there, I can vouch that not too many jobs that have the sorts of personal intrusion or extraordinary hours that an elected rep has. We kept Mr Barr MLA at our meeting until after 9.30 last night for instance. And I’m sure he gets that sort of thing several times every week.

Bollocks!

At this time of the year, nearly everyone in a company, not fed or local govt depts (don’t know about them, I am not working there) goes over the finish time to get a little more done. when the week of end june is upon us, there will be people working past midnight regularly. any company that responds to a tender will go for all night sessions to get the tender ready for submission.

Mr Barr chose to be a politician. good for him. it isn’t in his job description to go past normal quit time, but he will to ensure he has a job after the election. It isn’t in mine, but I have clients who will be working late, they will need my help. it is down to priorities, I want to succeed, not coast.

shauno 1:20 pm 13 Jun 08

I agree with the Singapore model of paying politicians good wages. We need to attract the best people in our society to run for these jobs. In terms of federal politics I think the Prime Minister should be on around 1 million per year as opposed to 330k or so he is on now. And Ministers on around 500k with Backbencher’s on 300k.

As for the ACT I see the Chief Minister should be up around 350k with Backbencher’s on 250k or so.

This would put wages up to a more realistic level for leaders of the country and states. And attract a wider range of people to run.

Kris209 12:16 pm 13 Jun 08

AG – damn right about middle management.
Though no way i was to scared to vote out on bad performance! just could believe we were the minority voters for SO LONG.
But you can only vote one or the other, their all pretty much the same i reckon.

Its interesting to me that many believe that Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship is SO FAR different from our own…

AG Canberra 10:30 am 13 Jun 08

“accountability” what is it? This applies equally to a middle manager and a Chief Minister. How often do we see that hopeless middle managers either keep their jobs or end up getting promoted – “because of time served”? It’s the same with pollies – we are always too scared to vote out based on poor performance – it took 11 years to recognise it with the Feds!

If anyone has any excellent examples of managing poor performance / making someone accountable I’d like to see them….

I understand Saddam Hussein had a good way of making his staff accountable, maybe we should try that for a while and see how we go!

el 6:56 pm 12 Jun 08

You people actually think any of that mob would make effective/useful EL2/SES staff?

Felix the Cat 6:47 pm 12 Jun 08

Kris209 said :

i think its f***ing disgusting. How much is enough? 100k, 200k bullsh** and still rising.
EL’s the same. No damn way the managers here do 2.5 x the work i do, but they are paid that difference. Meanwhile those of us on under 50k get sent these ‘look at these poor starving people’ emails, and see ads on tv about locals unable to afford a jumper for the winter. Most of us work 35/40 hours a week. Some working couples struggle endlessly to afford, or, simply cant afford to buy a house, while other have 2 or 3. One of the biggest discriminations of our times i reckon.

I guess being Chief Minister it is not a 9-5 job, I just think that a percentage payrise is an insult to lower paid workers (like myself). I work 50 hours a week (55 hours this week) and if I’m lucky will just clear $40K this year (gross not nett). The lyrics to one of Midnight Oil’s songs comes to mind – “The rich get richer, the poor get the picture” Quite ironic actually now Peter Garrett is now a pollie himself.

Kris209 1:47 pm 12 Jun 08

between high and low income allocations.
thats a hell of a lot more than i or most people I know get.

justbands 1:24 pm 12 Jun 08

Gap between who/what? If a backbencher gets around $113K, then they are not earning a hell of a lot more than a lot of people who post here (& probably considerably less than some).

Kris209 1:21 pm 12 Jun 08

yeh fair enough. It does deserve a decent pay, i just think that the gap between shouldnt be SO great.

justbands 1:09 pm 12 Jun 08

No offense taken. I don’t claim to love one pollie over another…just that it’s a job that really does command a decent salary. As GA said in the post above, you’re looking at a $20-40K outlay jst to have a CHANCE of getting voted in.

Kris209 1:05 pm 12 Jun 08

I wouldnt call Stanhope one either.
“hey ive got an idea! lets penalise the venues that provide a happy social end of week drinking place even harder for the behaviour of a few morons! thats a much better idea than coming down harder on those that go out and look for trouble. We’ll just give them a little slap on the wrist and let them ruin it for the rest instead of using them to make an example to the rest of their kind”. (no offense justbands, just get sh**s with the logic of)

Gungahlin Al 12:58 pm 12 Jun 08

I’m with Thumper. Having been there, I can vouch that not too many jobs that have the sorts of personal intrusion or extraordinary hours that an elected rep has. We kept Mr Barr MLA at our meeting until after 9.30 last night for instance. And I’m sure he gets that sort of thing several times every week.

But the pay is getting towards the sort of area where one might consider having another go at it – but then there’s the $20-40,000 job application process…not too many EL2s/SES1s would be prepared to shell that out.

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