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AFP Speeding fines – reasonable speeds?

By ExFeds - 13 February 2010 101

Is it reasonable to expect a ticket being caught exceeding the prescribed limit by 20Km/h or more over the limit?

In a prescribed 60Km/h zone, what is the lowest speed you would expect  the Police to hand out a ticket?

What’s Your opinion?


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AFP Speeding fines – reasonable speeds?
astrojax 8:46 pm 13 Feb 10

in nsw, the ranges are 0-15 over the limit, 15-30 over and more than 30kmh over the posted limit – so 20kmh is mid range. what a very stupid question, really. i won’t get more involved in expressing my thoughts on that part…

i also find bd84 (#3)’s comment a bit odd – why is 40 in a 60 zone ‘too slow’ – too slow for who?

remember, the posted limit is the fastest (upper limit) speed permitted in good weather conditions. 40 in a 60 zone could, in some circumstances, be excessive speed. i really don’t get the ‘too slow’ argument. now, ‘obstructing traffic’ i understand, but simply travelling at a smooth safe speed isn’t doing that – it is only slowing you down when you somehow have an urge to demand other road users have to go as fast as the limit allows. if everyone slowed down and travelled below the limit, everyone would arrive a few moments later – so? – and everyone would be safer. what should the choice be, then?

Growling Ferret 8:36 pm 13 Feb 10

Under Australian design rules, your speedo only needed to be accurate to +-10%.

So any more than 10% over should potentially be finable.

However, I’d like to see it safety based, not a fixed speed camera on the bottom of a 2km long hill (ala Parkway, just after Cotter Road)

TP 3000 8:28 pm 13 Feb 10

The general consensus is if someone is caught doing 5k’s over the posted speed limit, then they are given a ticket. So if a camera/cop snap you at 105k’s you will be let off,however if you are caught doing 106k’s you will be fined for doing 6k’s over the limit.

This has been proven as I’ve gone past a fixed speed camera at around 105k’s & I have did not receive an infringement notice. However I know of a few people who have been nabbed by the Police for doing 6k’s over the limit & they were annoyed once I told them about the leniency.

That 5k’s leniency is to take tyre depth into account.

vg 7:46 pm 13 Feb 10

NeedHelp said :

10% above the limit is acceptable. So then, 66 in a 60 is ok, but 67 will get you a ticket, and 88 in an 80 is ok, but 89 will get you a ticket, and 110 in a 100 is ok, but 111 will get you a ticket. This is the rule for stand-alone stationery cameras – I am not sure if it’s the same for police officers with radar guns, or those dudes in the vans. It is hidden deep in the murky depths of their policies, never to be revealed to the public for obvious reasons. They made it 10% a few years back, because they needed a tolerance level once these cameras were introduced (calibration faults etc).

Yes, 20 km over will/should get you a ticket.

The 10% thing is a myth.

Tickets are regularly issued in Melbourne for camera offences of 62 or 63 in a 60 zone.

‘They’ didn’t make anything

NickD 6:42 pm 13 Feb 10

I can’t help but get the impression that this is a bit of a loaded question…

cleo 6:31 pm 13 Feb 10

10km

caf 6:23 pm 13 Feb 10

Depends.

If you failed the “attitude test”, 61.

(Seriously, anything more than about 65 is probably at risk. 20 over is well over – cop it sweet).

BenjaminL 6:23 pm 13 Feb 10

1. 20 km/h over : I hope so, imagine doing 60km/h in a school zone?? ah hello, children people!

2. 65 km/h, but im sure there is some law specifying what the minimum is

buzz819 6:20 pm 13 Feb 10

Wow you really are on the whole Traffic Infringement Notice campaign. Open up to us Feds, tell us why this issue has you in a flap.

In a sixty kilometer an hour zone, I reckon you could be caught speeding by anything from 4km/h and up.

For 20km/h over I’d expect a ticket from the boys in blue…

buyhercandy 6:08 pm 13 Feb 10

I believe the generally-prescribed-to-by-drivers rule is 10% over the speed limit. Not sure whether the police work on this basis, however.

NeedHelp 5:51 pm 13 Feb 10

10% above the limit is acceptable. So then, 66 in a 60 is ok, but 67 will get you a ticket, and 88 in an 80 is ok, but 89 will get you a ticket, and 110 in a 100 is ok, but 111 will get you a ticket. This is the rule for stand-alone stationery cameras – I am not sure if it’s the same for police officers with radar guns, or those dudes in the vans. It is hidden deep in the murky depths of their policies, never to be revealed to the public for obvious reasons. They made it 10% a few years back, because they needed a tolerance level once these cameras were introduced (calibration faults etc).

Yes, 20 km over will/should get you a ticket.

seanneko 5:47 pm 13 Feb 10

“In a prescribed 60Km/h zone, what is the lowest speed you would expect the Police to hand out a ticket?”

Uhh, considering that it’s illegal to exceed the speed limit, 61km/h.

Although I understand that they have some sort of tolerance, so more realistically probably something like 63 or 64.

bd84 5:02 pm 13 Feb 10

Why would it not be reasonable to get a ticket for doing 20kph over the speed limit? Stupid question. You do the crime, you cop the fine.

Lowest speed? well if you were doing 40kph or less in a 60 zone, in normal conditions, I would expect the police to fine you for driving unnecessarily slow. If you meant at what speed above 60kph should police start issuing a fine, legally 61kph, reasonably about 65kph, taking into account accuracy of speedos and there is very little difference on a regular speedo between the 2 marks.

SammyLivesHere 4:58 pm 13 Feb 10

I think speed cameras should be introduced into Canberra in line with the rest of Australia (in particular Perth)…. there are too many speeding on my local streets (even as the rain sets in they insist on doing 90km/hr in a 50 zone) – fine them, fine away and put the money to the local suburb for community things – bring it on. Speeders need bigger fines.
🙂 there I said it.

vg 4:42 pm 13 Feb 10

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