AFP Speeding fines – reasonable speeds?

ExFeds 13 February 2010 101

Is it reasonable to expect a ticket being caught exceeding the prescribed limit by 20Km/h or more over the limit?

In a prescribed 60Km/h zone, what is the lowest speed you would expect the Police to hand out a ticket?


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Spideydog Spideydog 10:23 pm 28 Sep 10

Spideydog said :

Dude, you have some SERIOUS issues !!!!

That was directed at ExFeds by the way.

Instead of being cryptic on numerous threads, come out say what you really want to say. This place is a soapbox, so get on with it !!!!!

Spideydog Spideydog 9:45 pm 28 Sep 10

Dude, you have some SERIOUS issues !!!!

buzz819 buzz819 9:42 pm 28 Sep 10

ExFeds said :

In the post “do you know who I am son…caution”

Is it fair to get a caution when travelling at 43km/h over the prescribed limit?

Grimma / Rollings

Did you think about giving him a caution?

ExFeds ExFeds 9:20 pm 28 Sep 10

In the post “do you know who I am son…caution”

Is it fair to get a caution when travelling at 43km/h over the prescribed limit?

Grimma / Rollings

Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 8:42 am 02 Sep 10

Aeek said :

Captain RAAF said :

This is why static speed cameras are a failure, they taint everyone with the same brush, sure everyone gets the message and slows down

Disagree, they target the unobservant – who probably don’t deserve a licence anyway IMHO

Sorry, incorrect. There is a big difference between driving along a straight, boring stretch of road and being unobservant enough to not notice a speed camera and getting pinged for doing 87 in an 80 zone and doing the same thing through a school zone and wiping out a little kiddie because you were unobservant!

99.9% of road users adapt to their surroundings and drive accordingly, sometimes those surroundings = driving faster because there’s no-one else around, bugger all traffic and the road conditions are suitable and surprise surprise, this is where a lot of Speed cameras pick up their victims. Did they save anyone? Nope, because the driver adapted to the conditions. Had he travelled into an intersection or encountered some kind of anomaly, he would have adapted to the conditions again and taken more interest in his surroundings, so Speed camera=Fail, it didn’t teach him anything he would’nt already have known or done!

If that same driver is incapable of modifying his driving to suit the conditions in built up areas and places like school zones, suburban streets etc and his inattentiveness could kill someone, then he should expect to get pinged as that will save lives, but pinging a driver out on a main road in perfect driving conditions for doing 68 in a 60 or 87 in an 80 zone, achieves nothing except adding a lot of money to government coffers!

The Traineediplomat The Traineediplomat 6:02 am 02 Sep 10

As a money spinner (and stimulus for sign writers), we should rate each road individually. Why have rounded speed limits 40, 50, 60, etc etc… let’s go crazy.. This road is 64, that one is 58 and this third road over here is a comfortable 69….

Then we can ping people for 1km over as the road has clearly been rated with the following official rating guide as a 63km/hr road and you Mr Hoon were doing 64…

Of course the road conditions in wet, snow, Giant Lizard attack would still be their set limit, however police have the right to pull you over if you’re being a c**khead, a p-plater, a silver BMW pink underpant driver or all three…

Aeek Aeek 10:18 pm 01 Sep 10

Captain RAAF said :

This is why static speed cameras are a failure, they taint everyone with the same brush, sure everyone gets the message and slows down

Disagree, they target the unobservant – who probably don’t deserve a licence anyway IMHO

Captain RAAF Captain RAAF 9:29 pm 01 Sep 10

Depends how busy you are. If you are set up on the side of the road with the specific purpose of pulling over speeding motorists, 68-69 in a 60 zone will get you pulled in, then the attitude test kicks in. Pass that, and you will likely be on your way without a fine, fail it and you’ll get done.

Each fine, in my experience translated into about 30 minutes of paperwork back at the station, hence the reason to book the stand out speeders doing 75+ and let the little fish go.

Statistically, the 75+ club are repeat offenders and you are actually (well, more than likely) saving a life down the track. The low end speeders, the 68-69 club, are just ordinary people going about life and not likely to be closet speed demons and NOT likely to run kids over at school crossings or be involved in accidents where excessive speed is a factor.

This is why static speed cameras are a failure, they taint everyone with the same brush, sure everyone gets the message and slows down but the 68-69 club were never likely to cause an accident anyway, the repeat speed racers get treated like everyone else and the chance at sending a clear message that may impact on someones driving habits is lost in the mix of everyone else also getting a ticket i.e. it’s almost socially acceptable to get a ticket due just to sheer weight of numbers.

Nothing will ever beat getting pulled over by a policeman and given the facts of life and knowing that from that day forward for at least the next 6 months, that cop is going to notice your car and what it’s doing, and that can have quite an affect on people’s driving habits.

=-)

ExFeds ExFeds 7:59 pm 01 Sep 10

When can a traffic Caution be issued to a driver / rider following the detection over speed?

buzz819 buzz819 10:05 pm 31 Aug 10

ExFeds said :

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You just wanted people to re-read this feds?

Aeek Aeek 9:26 pm 31 Aug 10

Ceej1973 said :

Under the speed limit- whay book someone for going to slow, i.e. tractors. That is what broken and unbroken road markings are for (over taking advice).

If your vehicle can’t (tractor, cyclist, whatever) it doesn’t matter. Its only an issue if you choose to go needlessly slowly.

ExFeds ExFeds 8:57 pm 31 Aug 10

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Ceej1973 Ceej1973 2:09 am 27 Apr 10

Ceej1973 said :

School zones – I saw a kid yesterday that was run over by a car going at walking pace, the kid was going at running pace. Luckily he stood back up.
Under the speed limit- whay book someone for going to slow, i.e. tractors. That is what broken and unbroken road markings are for (over taking advice).
Speeding- one would expect that you should be paying most attention to whats on the other side of the windscreen, not looking at the speedo 100% of the time. So being booked for anything over 10% is just stupid and picky, assuming your average driver also knows the approx. speed travelled based on revs/gear sound.

Oops. I meant “anything under 10% over the limit”

Ceej1973 Ceej1973 2:06 am 27 Apr 10

School zones – I saw a kid yesterday that was run over by a car going at walking pace, the kid was going at running pace. Luckily he stood back up.
Under the speed limit- whay book someone for going to slow, i.e. tractors. That is what broken and unbroken road markings are for (over taking advice).
Speeding- one would expect that you should be paying most attention to whats on the other side of the windscreen, not looking at the speedo 100% of the time. So being booked for anything over 10% is just stupid and picky, assuming your average driver also knows the approx. speed travelled based on revs/gear sound.

tony1306 tony1306 2:47 pm 26 Apr 10

I received a ticket in my mail, but it was a warning. it stated 0 points lost, $0 fine.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 11:09 am 24 Feb 10

Tooks said :

You’re not ever going to get booked doing 1kmh over the limit, so you won’t ever have to worry about it.

And if it does happen, you could always explain to the court that you were only breaking the law just a little bit.

Tooks Tooks 10:42 am 24 Feb 10

Ado said :

I know this post is getting old, but I’m slow!

The OP was about cops issuing tickets, so I stand by the following two comments:

1) If you were told by ANYONE there is a 10% rule on police tickets, you have been misled.

2) If I get a ticket from any source for going 1kmh over the posted limit I will take the matter to court and I will win.

You’re not ever going to get booked doing 1kmh over the limit, so you won’t ever have to worry about it.

Ado Ado 10:43 pm 23 Feb 10

I know this post is getting old, but I’m slow!

The OP was about cops issuing tickets, so I stand by the following two comments:

1) If you were told by ANYONE there is a 10% rule on police tickets, you have been misled.

2) If I get a ticket from any source for going 1kmh over the posted limit I will take the matter to court and I will win.

farq farq 1:00 pm 22 Feb 10

Tooks said :

I realise you’re probably just fishing for a bite, but if you honestly can’t see why discretion is important, then you’re not really using your noggin.

hey who you calling a troll? how rude! 🙂

discretion is a complicated issue.

at best it can be used to temper the worst excesses of the law.

at worst selective enforcement can (and has in the past) been used to target minorities and the vulnerable with vexatious charges.

Tooks Tooks 11:27 am 22 Feb 10

cleo said :

Gee and I get a parking fine for being parked for less than a minute.

You’ve learned a valuable lesson then.

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