3 October 2008

Another Massey, this one on the run after fifth bail breach

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The Canberra Times reports that Matthew Massey, 32, is now in breach of his bail (on attempted burglary and theft charges) for the fifth time and on the run from the law.

His Gran, Jan Massey, who had put up $2,000 to bail him last month is trying to get her money back despite the absconding.

What’s a little light burglary and theft among friends you ask?

    Massey is charged with stealing several rifles, telescopic lenses and holsters from a Deakin home in August last year, and attempting to burgle a Kippax jewellery shop a few weeks later. It is alleged that three days after the burglary he escaped a police cordon by jumping a fence when officers attended a Page house to execute a search warrant. He was arrested two days later.

Nice work your honours.

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Utah, Oh and don’t forget that Clea Rose wouldn’t have been run over as well!

Oh the list goes on……….Appraently this sounds like the Police ARE doing thier job but clearly getting no support from the Govt or the judicial system.

this is standard of the ACT Judiciary with bail or sentencing. There are no consequenses for the crooks and they will always be given another chance to screw up.

The only reason I can see why this is not the case is because the sentences are so lenient in the ACT that people would be spending more time behind bars waiting for trial then what they would get when sentenced.

…or if you breach bail, you are ineligible to be released on bail ever again. Think about it – Massey would be behind bars, and Amber Jane Westin wouldn’t have had her “unfortunate bingle” while on the run.

Come some one explain why the this idiot would be given bail after a previous breach. Surely it should be law that if you breach your bail then you should have to stay in prison until the trial. How hard would that be.

Mike Crowther9:00 pm 10 Sep 08

No. Just clicked on the name and took my pick. Only took a second. It was the most relevant, pot calling the kettle black type of thing…

Mike: Did you trawl through 6 months worth of RA to find that quote? And was that really the best one you could find?

… That seems… odd.

You know, there was nothing wrong with the Star Trek post. It’s called humour. Whatever the political persuasion, I would be far more likely to vote for a somebody who created such a post than somebody so belittling of it.

Mike Crowther said :

(All levity aside, I fear that this particular one isn’t going to give up easy and I seriously don’t envy the young coppers who will just happen to chance upon him and then have to run him down.)

How this lunatic manages to stay on the streets amazes me. He is beyond rehabilitation and a danger to everyday citizens, police and even other crooks.

Mike Crowther5:51 pm 10 Sep 08

Your dead right there about fake metaphors tom-tom. Blame the poor standards of N.S.W. schooling if you will…

Wasn’t suggesting that I ‘won’ anything. Just pointing out the glass house theory.

It’s neither. CAP policy (at least the bare bones) are on the website for all to see. The details will be rolled out after the membership signs off on them. (That’s how we work). The ‘idea’ probably isn’t mine at all. It’s come about from years of discussions in more police charge rooms than I care to remember where we would express our collective amazement at the inability of the bench to recognise the bloody obvious when setting bail conditions. However, light being good in whatever lamp it emanates from, I thought I’d throw it out there as a possible solution to situations like that which has just occurred.

(All levity aside, I fear that this particular one isn’t going to give up easy and I seriously don’t envy the young coppers who will just happen to chance upon him and then have to run him down.)

Beserk Keyboard Warrior5:26 pm 10 Sep 08

If Porrit gets 2 minutes in gaol for mutilating his mother then I’m pretty sure ole Higgo will give Ma Baker’s money back too.

and neither of those things are metaphors, dammit. cliches yes, metaphors no.

mike; how is digging up an out of context quote from 6 months ago relevant to you winning the arguement?

btw; is that policy announcement of yours (post 9) an off the cuff thing or one that is part of official CAP policy?

Mike Crowther5:10 pm 10 Sep 08

Further edification…

BAIL ACT 1992 – SECT 37
Enforcement of bail agreements

37. (1) Where—

(a) a person granted bail fails to comply with his or her undertaking to appear; and

(b) that person or another person has entered into an agreement pursuant to a bail condition to forfeit an amount of money;

the Magistrates Court may declare that amount, or any part of it, to be forfeited and order the person who entered the agreement to pay the sum so forfeited to the Territory.

(2) Where the Magistrates Court orders an amount to be paid to the Territory under subsection (1), that amount may be recovered by the Territory in the Magistrates Court as a debt due to the Territory irrespective of whether the amount exceeds $50,000.

My plan involves amending the act to change the word ‘may’ to ‘must’. Not all that complex if there is the political will for change.

And no tom-tom, I’m not having a dummy spit at all. I’m actually loving the spring weather today. 🙂 But…if Aurelius insists on playing the man and not the ball then he deserves to be hoisted on his own petard. (There, two metaphors for the price of one)

Aurelius said :

Mike, you’re not overly familiar with how bail works, are you?
Or you’ve been watching too many American TV shows.
Take a walk down to the courts, and get one of their “Judicial Processes for Dummies” book. It might make you less of an obvious n00b in future posts.

Please, enlighten us O wise one

Deadmandrinking4:56 pm 10 Sep 08

I remember the siege. I was watching legally downloaded Movies, your honor, all night when there were armed police all over my neighborhood. I didn’t actually know the suburb was locked down, however. Thank goodness I didn’t run out of smokes.

wow. what a dummy spit.

Mike Crowther4:45 pm 10 Sep 08

Aurelius. I have been responsible for bailing hundreds of people in my time so I am quite familiar with both the mechanics and the concept. You are obviously referring to bail ‘without security’. Fair enough, you can’t get blood out of a stone however I would question why anyone with a long record should benefit from such judicial largesse.

However, bail with security means the court actually holds the cash. Where bail is broken it is a simple matter of the bench declaring it forfeit. Yes there is no current mechanism for doling it out to the army of dobbers out there. Which was the purpose of my post. Common, bloody sense son.

Perhaps you should stick to bitching about coppers picking on your driving ability or writing howlers like this one….

“What sad loser in PALM trawled the history books to find some obscure justification for naming a street after the Starship Captain?”
Arelius Feb 26 2008.

Mike, you’re not overly familiar with how bail works, are you?
Or you’ve been watching too many American TV shows.
Take a walk down to the courts, and get one of their “Judicial Processes for Dummies” book. It might make you less of an obvious n00b in future posts.

Mike Crowther3:52 pm 10 Sep 08

When a defendant absconds, I want to see ALL bail money forfeited. No bleeding heart exceptions. 20% of that sum should then be offered in the form of a no-strings attached reward to any person turning in the runner (resulting in an arrest).
Start turning these criminal networks against each other. Trust me, there is no more honor amongst thieves than there is common sense among the judiciary.

So votes anyone? Or do you still prefer the way the Stanhope team is running public safety?

Mike Crowther
Community Alliance Candidate
for Ginninderra.

But people say that ‘we’ are wrong about the judicial system in this town.

Swaggie said :

So make it known to your prospective MLAs that you want the ACT judicial system to stop being so lenient on everyone…

Spot on Bevan

So make it known to your prospective MLAs that you want the ACT judicial system to stop being so lenient on everyone…

Another example of why Terry and his colleagues deserve the ACT Iron Cross, with ineptitude clusters and crossed bleeding hearts.

neanderthalsis11:21 am 10 Sep 08

Did they recover the rifles he pilfered from the burg in Deakin? Being on the run takes on a whole new meaning when the crim is armed to the teeth.

“His Gran, Jan Massey, who had put up $2,000 to bail him last month is trying to get her money back despite the absconding.”

Good luck with that!

I imagine someone won’t be getting a Christmas card from their Gran this year……

This article also states that Massey is considered a danger to the community yet he was released on bail into the community FOUR count’em FOUR TIMES!

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