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Boot Camp Culture. Should they pay for the space they use? [With poll]

By G-Fresh - 5 December 2011 77

Do rioters think that boot camps should be regulated?

Sydney councils have commenced regulation of the industry.

Should boot camp businesses be required to pay taxes for their ‘use of public places in gaining assessable income’?

This is whats happening in Sydney: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/aggressive-militarystyle-training-squads-in-parks-get-marching-orders-20111204-1odfb.html

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Boot Camp Culture. Should they pay for the space they use? [With poll]
Bramina 5:42 pm 05 Dec 11

dave__ said :

If this was anything else I would say tax the hell out of them. But as it is a health and fitness thing, and people are getting fat and lazy, I think it’s a good thing.

What better use could there be for public spaces. This is the kind of behaviour the government should be encouraging.

If there is a problem with them interfering with other users of public spaces, perhaps that should be regulated. However, governments can rarely content themselves to regulate just one thing. They would create burdensome regulation that will drive up costs and inconvenience boot campers driving them away from what can only be desirable behaviour.

alaninoz 5:28 pm 05 Dec 11

I think enrique nailed it. If it’s for-profit use then they should pay.

astrojax 4:34 pm 05 Dec 11

Ex Warrior said :

Definitely Yes. Not only that they should only be allowed to use space designated for group training ie sporting ovals. Why should junior footy teams etc have to pay and profitable businesses not pay???

good point, though the payments do, admittedly, go to a government tasked with maintaining the public space to a suitable standard and ensuring that such space is available to the users at the time they need it and so duly restricted to other would-be users at that time…

but a point to consider…

poetix 4:17 pm 05 Dec 11

Full Metal Jacket type language/noise levels should not be encouraged.
But I speak as a very lazy person who likes to sit in parks and read. I call it book camp.

Classified 4:06 pm 05 Dec 11

Snarky said :

If they aren’t blocking the public from using a public space I have no problems with them.

This. +1.

enrique 4:05 pm 05 Dec 11

We should be doing as much as we can in every way possible to encourage people to get active and exercise on a regular basis.

Having said that however, most other sporting codes around town that use government provided facilities usually have to pay a fee of some sort. E.g. Football/Cricket/Soccer/Athletics have to pay ground (and sometimes lighting) fees to use the irrigated ovals, Tennis clubs pay court fees, Netball/Basketball also pay court fees, etc. It all goes toward making the facilities available and keeping them maintained.

Why is this type of sporting/excercise activity any different? In some way, given that these groups are essentially commercial for-profit enterprises I’d say there is probably more of a case to ask that they chip in a bit.

You’d have to assess it on a case by case basis. It would cost a lot more to keep the lush green lawn of federation place maintained than say a local patch of parkland that gets mown once in a while.

Hmm, but then again – isn’t that why we pay taxes to have parks in the first place? As a place we can go to exercise, relax, etc…?

I’m split on both sides of the fence on this one.

Disinformation 4:04 pm 05 Dec 11

I think that they should pay up the second that they inconvenience the public in terms of preventing normal access or use by their activities, but only when that happens. I’ve got no problems with them utilising space that nobody else bothers with.
I have even less of an issue with attractive female participants seeing how tight they can get their lycra.
I think that calling it “boot camp” when it was nothing LIKE boot camp is pandering a bit though.

Ex Warrior 4:03 pm 05 Dec 11

Definitely Yes. Not only that they should only be allowed to use space designated for group training ie sporting ovals. Why should junior footy teams etc have to pay and profitable businesses not pay???

matt31221 3:57 pm 05 Dec 11

Absolutely not! Not to use public space! But they should lower their prices a bit towards customers – some of them are a bit of a rip-off. You can buy the boot camp book off amazon for $5 and it will tell you how to motivate yourself to run around ovals and do push-ups.

The article states that other park users are intimidated. What a bunch of wingers. What about all the annoying loud children and dogs running around. What about the football A-holes kicking balls at you not to mention the golf enthusiasts hitting balls around the parks and ovals narrowly missing you. Perhaps they should be taxed too. Geez what a police state.

Deref 3:54 pm 05 Dec 11

Why would you want to send your boots on a camp?

Snarky 3:41 pm 05 Dec 11

If they aren’t blocking the public from using a public space I have no problems with them.

creative_canberran 3:35 pm 05 Dec 11

I think so depending on the location. A group of them take over a paved area outside one of the buildings in New Acton. Another group frequently takes over Reconciliation Place. Yet another group takes over the National Library podium and damages the walls with their chalk, before doing laps around the place running over people. There’s plenty of open spaces, if they want to use these ones which interfere with others, then f-ing well pay for it.

Mysteryman 3:35 pm 05 Dec 11

I don’t think they should.

dave__ 3:32 pm 05 Dec 11

If this was anything else I would say tax the hell out of them. But as it is a health and fitness thing, and people are getting fat and lazy, I think it’s a good thing.

buzz819 3:30 pm 05 Dec 11

They are already paying income tax, most of the companies are getting charged ludicrous amounts to work and advertise at gyms, pay insurance and on top of that there is a new company or gym opening every 5 seconds in Canberra, if the government want’s to get rid of yet another local business, then go for it.

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