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By madalynmitchell 9 April 2012 59

On the 8th of April 2012, myself along with a small group of friends headed up to the Canberra Air Disaster Memorial we wanted to see if we saw any paranormal activity. We arrived at roughly 9pm at night, there were two other NSW P plater cars at the gate, discussing whether we would go through the gate or go home.

One person from the NSW cars recognised me from school and told us that it would be a 90 minute walk to the site. They left shortly after.

Two of our party stayed back at our cars because they were superstitious, we arrived at the memorial site after walking for 25-30 minutes and taking a wrong turn at the fork in the road, heading into the bush (we quickly realised that it was not right and retracted our steps) arriving at the memorial site we looked around and headed back unsatisfied, the two girls rang us on a mobile phone to tell us that a security guard had arrived and wanted to speak to us.  Walking along the road next to the paintball center, looking at the meche fence, there were lots of cuts in it as if people were trying to cut through it, and at the beginning of the road, 50m from the main gate, there was a hole cut through the fence. None of these were from us.

We walked back to the cars  and were told to stand against one car by a security guard with a German Shepard, he then asked us if we knew that we were trespassing on Government land, this was the first any of us had heard about it belonging to anyone. He threatened to call the police to charge us with trespassing.

Speaking up, i asked who it belonged to. The security guard shun his torch in my eyes and told me that it now belonged to the Australian Army and had for quite some time. He continued to ask us for our details and who owned the cars to hand over to the police  in case of any report of vandalism. He told us that this was our only warning and if he saw us again we would be arrested and charged. Curious, i asked how long he would keep our details in his phone, he told me that he would keep them for a long time.

I told him that there are no signs stating that this land belongs to anyone, and another member of my group stated that it was not stated on any website on the internet. The security guard could not explain why they had not been updated. I apologised on behalf of myself and my friends for trespassing that we did not know that it belonged to the government, that he could be sure that he would never see any of us again and that we would pass on this information to anyone who spoke of heading up to the memorial site to see the paranormal activity. The security guard told us to leave and that he was now going to check for damages.

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aceofspades 10:12 am 11 Apr 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

I don’t know about anyone else, but i remember there being a huge no trespassing sign on that gate that closed off ADM – unless some punks stole it of course. Its a plae known for people getting up to no good, and for people getting hurt, they don’t allow people up there at night becasue they don’t want to have to pay you when your stupid ass hurts yourself in the dark becasue a noise scared you.
I’ve lost a friend up there many years ago – bad driving and stupid teenage boys looking for ghosts and when they couldn’t find them, they got bored and did something very stupid and killed our friend. It’s becasue of dickheads like this who make it so the government has to hire security to tell you to bugger off, he was doing his job, you are not supposed to be up there during the night.

Well I heard that once apon a time a friend of my cousin twice removed uncles step sister once had a hairdresser who said that her sister had a friend that was killed crossing the road so I think we should outlaw that also.

Gerry-Built 9:24 am 11 Apr 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

All of you saying the kids had a right to be there? your the ones who scream about your tax dollars being wasted on “public art” – want it going into the pockets of these kids becasue they chose to be stupid and go play in a pitch black forrest at night in the middle of nowhere, when SES has to come help them, or have to search them, or when mum and dad sue to get compo for baby’s injuries. – how bad will you scream then?

quick!!! Break open the cotton wool!!! What, exactly is your point? That ‘kids’ shouldn’t be allowed out at night; in case they get into trouble and require SES rescue? Yes… Walking in a small forest at night CAN be THAT dangerous… Huh? Wha…?

Thumper 6:59 pm 10 Apr 12

Padoof said :

Now this brings back memories….surviving Air Disaster at night was a big thing when I was about 17, a good few years ago…let’s just say over 20 years.

You could drive right up to the memorial, get completely freaked out by seeing lights through the trees when there shouldn’t have been lights in the trees, then the race was on to see who could leave the fastest whilst screaming the loudest.

Yep, nothing like the good ol’ days. Fancy kids these days wanting some good ol’ fashioned country fun in the city!

Yes, about 20 or so years ago my friends and I were doing the same. Fantastic place to take chicks as it was downright spooky.

Ah, good days and memories 🙂

Padoof 6:39 pm 10 Apr 12

Now this brings back memories….surviving Air Disaster at night was a big thing when I was about 17, a good few years ago…let’s just say over 20 years.

You could drive right up to the memorial, get completely freaked out by seeing lights through the trees when there shouldn’t have been lights in the trees, then the race was on to see who could leave the fastest whilst screaming the loudest.

Yep, nothing like the good ol’ days. Fancy kids these days wanting some good ol’ fashioned country fun in the city!

p1 12:14 pm 10 Apr 12

Thumper said :

p1 said :

PBO said :

….and there is also the “training area that does not exist” in that vicinity….

Hmmm, I’ve only seen the training areas that do exist. What does the one that doesn’t exist look like?

It’s where they keep the black helicopters.

But don’t tell anyone.

Ahhh, righto then, jolly good […taps side of nose and winks knowingly….]

BelcoMan 12:10 pm 10 Apr 12

Could be an AFP “Trainig Village” out there too?

TheDancingDjinn 12:08 pm 10 Apr 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

I don’t know about anyone else, but i remember there being a huge no trespassing sign on that gate that closed off ADM – unless some punks stole it of course. Its a plae known for people getting up to no good, and for people getting hurt, they don’t allow people up there at night becasue they don’t want to have to pay you when your stupid ass hurts yourself in the dark becasue a noise scared you.
I’ve lost a friend up there many years ago – bad driving and stupid teenage boys looking for ghosts and when they couldn’t find them, they got bored and did something very stupid and killed our friend. It’s becasue of dickheads like this who make it so the government has to hire security to tell you to bugger off, he was doing his job, you are not supposed to be up there during the night.

All of you saying the kids had a right to be there? your the ones who scream about your tax dollars being wasted on “public art” – want it going into the pockets of these kids becasue they chose to be stupid and go play in a pitch black forrest at night in the middle of nowhere, when SES has to come help them, or have to search them, or when mum and dad sue to get compo for baby’s injuries. – how bad will you scream then?

TheDancingDjinn 12:05 pm 10 Apr 12

I don’t know about anyone else, but i remember there being a huge no trespassing sign on that gate that closed off ADM – unless some punks stole it of course. Its a plae known for people getting up to no good, and for people getting hurt, they don’t allow people up there at night becasue they don’t want to have to pay you when your stupid ass hurts yourself in the dark becasue a noise scared you.
I’ve lost a friend up there many years ago – bad driving and stupid teenage boys looking for ghosts and when they couldn’t find them, they got bored and did something very stupid and killed our friend. It’s becasue of dickheads like this who make it so the government has to hire security to tell you to bugger off, he was doing his job, you are not supposed to be up there during the night.

Thumper 11:51 am 10 Apr 12

p1 said :

PBO said :

That area is pretty much surrounded by Defence type establishments/areas and the Army have exercises running regularly around there and there is also the “training area that does not exist” in that vicinity which would have armed/dogged guards patrolling it on a regular basis.

So he was well within his rights to stop and question you as you would seem very suspicious as there is no realistic need for you to be there at night.

Hmmm, I’ve only seen the training areas that do exist. What does the one that doesn’t exist look like?

It’s where they keep the black helicopters.

But don’t tell anyone.

PBO 11:44 am 10 Apr 12

p1 said :

PBO said :

That area is pretty much surrounded by Defence type establishments/areas and the Army have exercises running regularly around there and there is also the “training area that does not exist” in that vicinity which would have armed/dogged guards patrolling it on a regular basis.

So he was well within his rights to stop and question you as you would seem very suspicious as there is no realistic need for you to be there at night.

Hmmm, I’ve only seen the training areas that do exist. What does the one that doesn’t exist look like?

Couldnt say, there was a guard blocking my view saying that there is nothing to see here.

However, isnt it behind the transport industries skills centre? It has been discussed on this site before.

Gismondo 11:42 am 10 Apr 12

“arriving at the memorial site we looked around and headed back unsatisfied”

I’m disapointed at this seemingly relaxed attitude to searching for paranormal activity. Did anyone break out a ouija board or the like? Next time take Lawrence Leung and get the job done properly

Postalgeek 11:36 am 10 Apr 12

Thumper said :

Captain RAAF said :

Ok, how many peeps would like me to head out there and park my car at the entrance to the gate at around 9pm, and just stand by the gate and await the security guard. I’ll have my video camera and ‘other items’ (not weapons or illegal) for if he gets uppity with me.

JB, will you post the video for all to see?

+1

+2 Always up for entertainment at other people’s expense.

p1 11:30 am 10 Apr 12

PBO said :

That area is pretty much surrounded by Defence type establishments/areas and the Army have exercises running regularly around there and there is also the “training area that does not exist” in that vicinity which would have armed/dogged guards patrolling it on a regular basis.

So he was well within his rights to stop and question you as you would seem very suspicious as there is no realistic need for you to be there at night.

Hmmm, I’ve only seen the training areas that do exist. What does the one that doesn’t exist look like?

Captain RAAF 11:12 am 10 Apr 12

PBO said :

That area is pretty much surrounded by Defence type establishments/areas and the Army have exercises running regularly around there and there is also the “training area that does not exist” in that vicinity which would have armed/dogged guards patrolling it on a regular basis.

So he was well within his rights to stop and question you as you would seem very suspicious as there is no realistic need for you to be there at night.

lol, that’s hilarious!

PBO 9:37 am 10 Apr 12

That area is pretty much surrounded by Defence type establishments/areas and the Army have exercises running regularly around there and there is also the “training area that does not exist” in that vicinity which would have armed/dogged guards patrolling it on a regular basis.

So he was well within his rights to stop and question you as you would seem very suspicious as there is no realistic need for you to be there at night.

Thumper 9:02 am 10 Apr 12

Captain RAAF said :

Ok, how many peeps would like me to head out there and park my car at the entrance to the gate at around 9pm, and just stand by the gate and await the security guard. I’ll have my video camera and ‘other items’ (not weapons or illegal) for if he gets uppity with me.

JB, will you post the video for all to see?

+1

Captain RAAF 8:46 am 10 Apr 12

Ok, how many peeps would like me to head out there and park my car at the entrance to the gate at around 9pm, and just stand by the gate and await the security guard. I’ll have my video camera and ‘other items’ (not weapons or illegal) for if he gets uppity with me.

JB, will you post the video for all to see?

Thumper 8:45 am 10 Apr 12

Did you not see news stories just weeks ago about armed AFP taking over security at Holsworthy?

Did you not see the same stories confirm that private security would remain in place for bases until threat assessments suggested AFP should take over and provide armed protection?

Did you not see the many stories over the past 3 years about how Australian military bases use unarmed, private security, in light of the plot against Holsworthy?

This was all literally front page news.

I’m not really sure what your point is but, man, give up now.

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