Canberra Cleaning

DD, thanks for the update, Im sure a few of us were curious as to what happened. I hope the guy has a speedy recovery and customers may be as understanding as you were about the unfortunate situation. Just part of being self-employed I guess.

ok some closure
.. assumption is the mother of all you know whats
I did get a call yesterday from the boss of Canberra cleaning, the poor bloke had some critical surgery and was off line, along with the business, during this period for recovery etc
the cleaning was/is still occurring as per contract but the invoice/payment is the only thing that has to be sorted out

cheers for all the help

Visited the Erindale business park reception on friday afternoon and apparently the management has been out for a fortnight but coming back(from god knows where) on Monday. Will be interested in their story if/when they get back to me. They do still have a office there + signage so gives me hope that the business is still alive

Might be worth a try DD. The signage has changed there and is now Erindale Business Park. There is a receptionist at the centre who may know if you can’t get to the actual office of Canberra Cleaning. The CC sign was still there last time I visited the petrol station at Erindale.

I will use the registered post suggestion, its a goodie and cheap option to confirm if someone still is at the business address

on both the contract and website the address is
Canberra Business Park,
2 Lansell Circuit, Wanniassa, ACT, 2903

probably should get off my ass and rock up there in person

If common sense and standard civilised dealings fail, Small Claims\Civil Dispute tribunal.

DawnDrifter said :

Have sent them an email with return receipt attached..

Be careful with this, If you actually read the specification for email, rfc 2822 I think. Delivery is not guarenteed, there are many legitimate ways according to the standard that an email may not be delivered.

As for the return receipt this is even worse, I know that I personally have an outlook rule that automatically rejects sending read receipts and many others do as well.

In this case Registered post is your friend, Express post are only guaranteed to the letterbox, no one has to sign for them.

Ms Drifter:
ABN’s are a tax office concern, and aren’t required to release any more information to the public than is on that website.
http://www.abr.business.gov.au/content.aspx?page=FAQbusiness for clarification,

You’d want Office of Regulatory Services, part of the ACT Government, as business name registrations (and who they are registered to) are a state & territory concern.
http://www.ors.act.gov.au/BIL/WebPages/BusNames/bnames1.html
But expect them to take a fee for giving you the “Extract of a statement of business name registration”.
The extract should contain:
The Business name; description of the nature of the business applicants;
the place which is the principal place of business; the proper name, and any former proper name and the address of each applicant; the date started trading as that name;
if the business name is a name adopted by the applicant or
applicants in substitution for another name — the other name;
and the length of registration.
(IE: all the handy stuff for legal proceedings)

But if you want to start up proceedings, Section 31 of the Business Names Act gives this advice. (http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/a/1963-12/default.asp for full law and context of this section)

31 Service of documents
(1) Service of a process or other document on someone (the proprietor)
who carries on business under a registered business name is taken to
be personal service on the proprietor if—
(a) the document is left at a registered place of business of the
proprietor with someone who appears to be at least 16 years
old and to be employed at the place; or
(b) the document is given to a resident agent of the proprietor; or
(c) the document is left at the registered address of a resident agent
of the proprietor with someone who appears to be at least
16 years old and to be employed at the address; or
(d) the document is sent by prepaid post, addressed to the
proprietor, to a registered place of business of the proprietor;
or
(e) the document is sent by prepaid post, addressed to a resident
agent of the proprietor, to a registered address of the agent.

(I’m not a business lawyer, or even someone who runs a business, and its been a while since I was involved in anything like a private enterprise debt-chase. You should probably seek more current advice if you taking these paths)

According to the ASIC free search, the new ACN was registered in October 08, and is still current. Registered office is in Kingston.

For ~$20 you can order a full company search online through any of the places listed on the ASIC page, which will show you the full registered and trading addresses, as well as the full names and addresses of the director/s.

ah ha knew i would get somewhere asking you blokes
the plot thickens, I checked the ABN/ACN on the contract and it differs to that on the website (cuedos to Skidbladnir)
the details are
– ABN 15 133 555 441
– ACN 133 555 441

I looked that one up on the ABR and it is the same trading name and the abn is current too… progress? so I may make a phonecall or 2 and try track down some details.. hope the abr ppl can help

thanks for your help and ill try keep you updated here