Canberra goes to Brazil

I am waiting for you to post the “before and now photos” of where you have seen the sea level rise in the past 50 years.

I would imagine that at the very least you have to verify that the photos have been taken at exactly the same point in the tidal cycles, which can span hours or even years. Anything less is cretinous. And that’s not even accounting for wind, barometric pressure, surges etc.

dungfungus said :

Nylex_Clock said :

dungfungus said :

No, I haven’t budged a millimetre (same as the level of the oceans that I have observed for the past 60 years have been).

If you are going to publish your research on sea levels on this forum, then we are entitled to demand you release your data so we can check your analysis is sound.

If you have no data, we will have no option but to assume your research is fraudulent.

So, … where’s your data, Dungy?

My research is from visual observations over the last 50 years. I should add that I have never heard anyone in my age group comment that “gee, the sea level is rising at my favourite rockfishing spot down the coast”
The comments and photographs on this site back that up. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/

You may wish to tell me where you have seen (with your own eyes) where the sea level in Australia has risen.
You can then call me a fraud if you will.

So you rely on the blog of “Angry old dude” as your one source on information? You dont think its worth reading wider? Or did you stop once you found (at last) someone who agreed with you? Your research methods are flawed by your own admission. One biased website and a chat amongst other disgruntled Grandpa Simpsons is not “research”

You embarrass my generation with your determination to argue against anything new just on the basis that it isnt like it used to be so must be wrong.

dungfungus said :

Nylex_Clock said :

dungfungus said :

No, I haven’t budged a millimetre (same as the level of the oceans that I have observed for the past 60 years have been).

If you are going to publish your research on sea levels on this forum, then we are entitled to demand you release your data so we can check your analysis is sound.

If you have no data, we will have no option but to assume your research is fraudulent.

So, … where’s your data, Dungy?

My research is from visual observations over the last 50 years. I should add that I have never heard anyone in my age group comment that “gee, the sea level is rising at my favourite rockfishing spot down the coast”
The comments and photographs on this site back that up. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/

You may wish to tell me where you have seen (with your own eyes) where the sea level in Australia has risen.
You can then call me a fraud if you will.

Dungers one’s memory over 50 years is going to be hazy which is why we rely on scientific instruments and data records as evidence.

Here is some incontrovertible evidence for you and the other non-believers

http://www.climatechange.gov.au/climate-change/climate-science/climate-change-future/sea-level

Nylex_Clock said :

dungfungus said :

No, I haven’t budged a millimetre (same as the level of the oceans that I have observed for the past 60 years have been).

If you are going to publish your research on sea levels on this forum, then we are entitled to demand you release your data so we can check your analysis is sound.

If you have no data, we will have no option but to assume your research is fraudulent.

So, … where’s your data, Dungy?

My research is from visual observations over the last 50 years. I should add that I have never heard anyone in my age group comment that “gee, the sea level is rising at my favourite rockfishing spot down the coast”
The comments and photographs on this site back that up. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/01/if-sea-level-was-rising-wouldnt-someone-have-noticed/

You may wish to tell me where you have seen (with your own eyes) where the sea level in Australia has risen.
You can then call me a fraud if you will.

dungfungus said :

No, I haven’t budged a millimetre (same as the level of the oceans that I have observed for the past 60 years have been).

If you are going to publish your research on sea levels on this forum, then we are entitled to demand you release your data so we can check your analysis is sound.

If you have no data, we will have no option but to assume your research is fraudulent.

So, … where’s your data, Dungy?

dungfungus said :

Ben is being funded. Few people can afford to pay the full fare and accommodation to these global events.
It is timely to revisit probably the last “junket” trip to Brazil by a Canberran and I refer to Ros Kelly who attended The United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED), held in June in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, when ‘environment’ was the word on everyone’s lips with front-page media articles about impending environmental doom – deforestation, desertification, climate change, biodiversity etc.
Looking back 22 years, perhaps the outcome was not as some people hoped it would be.

you’re aware that the un conference on sustainable development [colloquially known as ‘rio +20’] was held in rio in late 2012, with a significant contingent of canberrans joining the australian delegation that was led by then pm, ms gillard? i think you’ll find that while certain sections of the media [ones perhaps well known to you, dungy] portrayed both the original and the 20th anniversary meetings as less than successful, much global good was acheived at both of these meetings. you should look it up some time…

oh, and some 3mm per year sea level rise would have your oceans at about 18cm higher today than sixty years back. maybe at your time of life it’s wise to make an appointment to visit an optometrist? the primary us oceanic body [noaa] has declared this rate to be significantly higher than over the previous thousand or so years, btw…

Ben is being funded. Few people can afford to pay the full fare and accommodation to these global events.
It is timely to revisit probably the last “junket” trip to Brazil by a Canberran and I refer to Ros Kelly who attended The United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED), held in June in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, when ‘environment’ was the word on everyone’s lips with front-page media articles about impending environmental doom – deforestation, desertification, climate change, biodiversity etc.
Looking back 22 years, perhaps the outcome was not as some people hoped it would be.

astrojax said :

dungfungus said :

astrojax said :

have we lost all the world game afficionados to the ructions on this site?

Maybe climate change has wiped them out.

so, you’re warming to the idea now, dungy?

No, I haven’t budged a millimetre (same as the level of the oceans that I have observed for the past 60 years have been).

Roundhead89 said :

astrojax said :

have we lost all the world game afficionados to the ructions on this site?

I know how to get them riled. Soccer. That should do it 😉

louder: soccer – there… 🙂

astrojax said :

have we lost all the world game afficionados to the ructions on this site?

I know how to get them riled. Soccer. That should do it 😉