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Canberra’s favourite mother has bail revoked

By johnboy 6 August 2008 95

The ABC reports that the infamous “Ainslie Mother” has tested positive for methamphetamine, and on her second appearance for breaching bail, been remanded in custody.

She certainly had her chances.


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Deadmandrinking 12:44 pm 09 Aug 08

Mælinar – *spoiler alert* I’ve seen S04E13 said :

I did read the description. I still think it was a flippant comment.

It takes a large amount of preparation to enter society from your muckpit in order to purchase your drugs, so either she was getting it delivered (again requiring a large amount of preparation, but entering an altogether different alignment – possibly even prostitution/drug-induced slavery), or she was able to muster enough grey matter together in the correct personality in order to do that.

But its such a success that there was washing on the line.

I’m not making the obvious logic leap here that is so apparent to you.

I think if you’re an addict, you don’t need much personality to buy drugs. The dealer would most likely know you and see you as a good source of cash from centrelink via person.

What I meant by she had the washing out on the line was that at some point, she may have been putting some kind of effort (let’s not forget it was a POT ROAST in the kitchen too), but at some point, she just fell apart again and her not-so-well-kept house did so too. This seems to me to indicate she genuinely cannot function in her current state, even though she might try. That, to me, means she needs care.

illyria 1:22 pm 08 Aug 08

Canberra’s kids need more community minded people like you who actually give a shit so good luck with it Rosebud. I hope for the little girls sake that all is well.

rosebud 1:18 pm 08 Aug 08

Illyra – thanks for your thoughts. I’m not a school teacher and am relying somewhat on second hand information, as well as first hand. I’m not rushing into any conclusions. For all I know the family is already known to family services! I’m just trying to understand and then do the right thing for the little girl and my family, and to canvass the well educated opinion of Riotacters (given the topic of this thread) who seem to know so much about so many things and have strong opinions about those things

illyria 12:58 pm 08 Aug 08

Sepi,

What money? Foster Carers do not get paid in Australia. They receive a daily reimbursement for food, clothing and other incidentals that are incurred by the child living in their home.

Lack of skills to do anything else!! Please. Dealing with children with special needs, massive psychological and behavioural problems, dealing with birth family issues. Does not sound like an easy job to me.

The reason children move through Foster placements is because of their behavioural issues and the burnout rates for carers who are unsupported financially and emotionally. Also because the Courts keep sending the children home after a period of time to parents who are given another chance and another chance and another chance until the kids are so mixed up with issues that they cannot settle anywhere. Then they beome crazy mixed up kids, having kids and the cycle starts again, as per my previous post………

illyria 12:47 pm 08 Aug 08

Rosebud,

Relying on second hand information about “what the dad is capable of”, the mother being “worse than the dad” or what the house looks like inside is not reason to report this man to Care and Protection Services. Any father would go nuts if somebody took his kids away on judgements alone.

If you are truly suspicious that she is being neglected or harmed, talk to the little girl herself or investigate further and make up your own mind one way or another.

Are you a school teacher? If so, you have a duty of care to report any suspected abuse. If you have first hand knowledge that something is wrong, and you do make a report, your report to the Department can remain confidential.

sepi 12:36 pm 08 Aug 08

I fully appreciate the foster carers are great people. I wish there were more of them.

But there are also some people who do foster care for the money, or because they don’t have any other skills.

There are plenty of stories of kids who went through 5 foster homes and had a very bad experience in at least one of them.

Even assuming all foster homes are wonderful nurturing environments, and that there were more than enough places in foster care, I still would be wary of reporting a family such as described above, where the basics seem to be covered, and the little girl does not seem troubled. Obviousely it is a very hard call to make, and I’m glad I’m not the one who has to decide.

illyria 12:26 pm 08 Aug 08

Thumper said :

If they go back to their mother ill it mean that in years to come they will be able to sue the ACT government for being stolen?

Sorry, I meant if they DON’T go back to their mother….

I think in years to come we are going to have children suing the Govt for NOT removing them from abusive and neglectful parents.

The Stolen Generation were children who were removed because they were indigenous. It was not a policy that had anything to do with maltreatment or bad parenting. It was a policy of ignorance and racism as those mothers were not bad mothers, they were just not white mothers.

Not to be confused with the generation of bad mothers and fathers now who get every chance to keep their children even if they are incapable of providing the most basic of things for their children. ie. food and warmth. Lets face it, because of the legacy of the Stolen Generations, we are too scared to take children from anybody in case they get upset about it.

The children in Ainslie, as much as every other child of a drug addicted, mentally ill, or otherwise non-functioning parent, deserve the right to have the opportunity to live a normal life, where meals are regular, the house is warm and clean, and nobody wants to bash you, have sex with you, burn you with cigarettes or otherwise wreck your chances at a good life.

In so many of these cases, the parents had shitty parents themselves and the cycle goes on. We need to make the hard decisions and break the cycle.

Leave the Ainslie kids with their mother and it will be their kids we are reading about in 15 years time.

Sepi,

Foster homes are MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, nurturing and caring environments that give children the only chance that they will ever get to live a normal life. It is comments like that that rob carers of the recognition that they deserve for voluntarily taking on children who regularly have huge life long issues from their early experiences.

rosebud 12:08 pm 08 Aug 08

Sepi

That is the sad conclusion I come to as well.

sepi 11:59 am 08 Aug 08

Stay friends with the little girl and try to suss out if she is happy/ok.

Sadly, foster homes are often nasty places, and if the Dad is putting food on the table, getting her to school and loves her, she is probably best of where she is.

rosebud 11:39 am 08 Aug 08

This thread is very relevant to my current dilema. There is a young girl I know who I think may be living with her drug dealing dad. But I have been told that her mother is even worse. I have considered a voluntary report, but several things – many of which have been raised in this discussion, prevent me. Firstly, I don’t KNOW anything, I suspect it, based on what she has told me, what I have seen, and also being a live human being who has been around for a while; secondly, this little girl does get to school everyday – her dad drops her off and she arrives in a uniform and seems genuinely happy to see him when he picks her up. Another person has told me that although the house is truly filthy inside and out, there is food for the children. Also, and perhaps most importantly, this other person warned me off reporting anything as the ‘dad’ could be a risk to myself and my own children. “You don’t know what he is capable of” was the quote. What would you do?

I did read the description. I still think it was a flippant comment.

It takes a large amount of preparation to enter society from your muckpit in order to purchase your drugs, so either she was getting it delivered (again requiring a large amount of preparation, but entering an altogether different alignment – possibly even prostitution/drug-induced slavery), or she was able to muster enough grey matter together in the correct personality in order to do that.

But its such a success that there was washing on the line.

I’m not making the obvious logic leap here that is so apparent to you.

Deadmandrinking 11:27 am 08 Aug 08

Did you read the description of how she kept her house, Maelinar? Does it sound like someone with a sound mind did that?

Did she just do it out of spite?

Something that struck me as another flippant comment that was not challenged is if its such a success that there was washing hung out on the line, how on earth did this misfit obtain the acumen to be able to get out of the house, purchase her gear, get back home and get stoned higher than I can fly a kite ?

Oh that’s right, the drugs made her do it.

But its such a success that there was washing on the line.

1 + 1 just aren’t equalling 3 somehow, while I think its ok to acknowledge that she may have had serious issues, I don’t think its entirely appropriate to place the entire amount of the blame on either drugs or her mental stability.

jakez 10:13 am 08 Aug 08

S4anta said :

DMD,

I’d rather wait and see how god damn liberal you are when you are chasing one them down the street while they have your DVD player
tucked under their left arm.

Define liberal as you are using it in that sentence.

sepi 9:57 am 08 Aug 08

People have tried to help her though. Her friend is looking after her older two children. Her mum and sister did come over from NZ for the first incident, to look after the kids.

It just sounds like she can’t help herself.

Some close families have one druggie member, and despite everyone’s best efforts, if they keep on and on stuffing up there just isn’t much you can do.l

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