Clea Rose hit and run passenger gets 18 months

I think with the whole army thing is that they would channel their poor attitudes and hopefully give them a wake up call.

Thumper and Mael, I’m with you 100%.

Idiots like those should be locked up – and for longer than 18 months.

Personally, I’d like for them to never see the light of day but that’s just my opinion.

I’ll be watching the news in 18 months time to see if the little “darlings” have reoffended.

I wouldn’t put it past them. They’ve literally gotten away with murder.

You can only hope DVD….

a ‘hard and fair’ punishment would be 18 years, no parole. 18 months mostly suspended is indeed a pathetic sentence. Best case scenario next time this turd does a runner from the cops he kills himself and his mates and no one else.

It is a fact that you see people “lying bleeding on the ground” however this does not equate with an increase in the crime rate that would lead to the conclusion “we are the new America”. Just because you see something more often on the TV (your assertion) does not mean it occurs more often in the world (or in Australia).
“… people lying bleeding on the ground on Australian soil isn’t statistics, it’s fact.” It is a fact but not one that can lead you to legitimately suggest that there is an increase in crime. There have always been “people lying bleeding on the ground”, it is just that TV now brings them into our homes.
Don’t judge the world by the frequency particular images are presented on TV (otherwise it would be a proven fact that drinking alcohol makes you sexually irresistible).

Binker, my impression comes from what I see on the telly.

In 1986 all you saw on tv was cricket or afl anyway
In 1996 all you saw was Americans shooting themselves up, be it at schools or elsewhere
In 2006 all I seem to see is Australians shooting themselves up

It may only be a reporting trend, however my perception is that people lying bleeding on the ground on Australian soil isn’t statistics, it’s fact.

Mael
Your suggestion that “we are the new America” is somewhat at odds with the stats for example:
For NSW
Over the 24 months to December 2005, the recorded incidence of:
Robbery with a firearm fell 26.7 per cent
Break and enter dwelling fell 11.0 per cent
Break and enter non-dwelling fell 7.8 per cent
Motor vehicle theft fell 12.4 per cent
Steal from a motor vehicle fell 9.0 per cent
Steal from a dwelling fell 5.4 per cent
Steal from the person fell 12.5 per cent

NSW stats from Beuro of Crime Statistics and Research (http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/bocsar/ll_bocsar.nsf/pages/bocsar_mr_rcs05)

Full report can be found here (http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/bocsar/ll_bocsar.nsf/vwFiles/RCS05.pdf/$file/RCS05.pdf)

In general crime is falling, however the “if it bleeds it leads” philosophy of most news services may account for your mistake.

**Disclaimer**

The police would be called first, they may request military assistance if desired.

NO trainee in the military is given access to hardware until their instructional staff are COMPLETELY satisfied that they will not do anything stupid with it.

I won’t get into the process involved in getting them there, but it involves discipline, self respect, and in certain individuals, reprogramming.

Turning potential pipe-bombers into soldiers is a delicate and hazardous task, and the military should be increasing the time they take rather than decreasing the time it takes to convert playstation hitmen into soldiers (as well as loosening the restrictions in place due to onerous OH&S and diversity and legislation and prettyboy suicide horrified parents creating storms in teacups) – within reason of course. The outcomes will be even more professionally trained soldiers, who are more rigidly focussed, and capable of doing their tasks without further training (and I daresay, an improved retention level).

The military have been accepting people from dubious backgrounds since several tribesmen picked up clubs and organised a fight against the neighbouring village, so no issues there; in a way, they’ve been waiting for them to arrive.

Annie, I watched the news last night horrified. From beatings with knives and other weapons in Brisbane, to driveby shootings in Sydney, all by (alleged of course) juvenile delinquents. We are the new America, wait for the pipe-bombings and mass killings to start within the school system.

Teaching a motivated and trained soldier how to use a weapon has nothing at all to do with the above situation, although you may rest assured that they are there, waiting to be called in, to help get your precious little Johnny off the water tower after he’s gone postal and started shooting up everybody in sight.

In the trade, we call it pink mist.

TV & the internet teach juvenile delinquents how to handle weapons. At least the military puts their use into perspective.