9 March 2010

CMCF supports new site for Islamic school

| Graham Cooke
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The Canberra Multicultural Community Forum (CMCF) gives its full support to the relocation of the Islamic School of Canberra from Watson to a larger site at Weston Creek, Chair Sam Wong said today.

“I congratulate the Islamic Council of the ACT, the Council’s president, Mohammed Berjaoui, the Chair of the ACT Muslim Advisory Council, Ikebal Patel, and the ACT Government for bringing this project to a successful conclusion,” Mr Wong said.

“In the five years it has been operating the Islamic School of Canberra has demonstrated beyond doubt that it is a much-needed facility.

“It has run as a primary school and now wishes to add a high school – there was an urgent need for a larger site. School authorities are projecting a total enrolment of around 900.”

Mr Wong said the school was open to any parent who wished their child to have an Islamic-style education.

“Very importantly, it has the ability to teach Arabic – a language that will be in great demand as the 21st century advances,” he said.

“Of course there have been criticisms, but the Islamic School of Canberra has the runs on the board and has proved to be a very valuable addition to the educational scene in Canberra.”

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As a resident of Weston, I don’t have a problem with parking as such, I’m more concerned about who will clean up all the Camel poo?

lets keep the comments on the topic of the relocation of the Islamic school in Canberra, or all non related comments will be removed

Pommy bastard said :

More than half of voters in four other major European states back a push by France’s Nicolas Sarkozy to ban women from wearing the burka, according to an opinion poll for the Financial Times.

As Mr Sarkozy presses ahead with plans to ban the wearing of the burka in public places, the FT’s latest Harris poll shows the move is not just strongly supported in France, but wins enthusiastic backing in the UK, Italy, Spain and Germany.

The poll shows some 70 per cent of respondents in France said they supported plans to forbid the wearing of the garment which covers the female body from head to toe. There was similar sentiment in Spain and Italy, where 65 per cent and 63 per cent respectively favoured a ban

The strength of feeling in the UK and Germany may seem particularly surprising. Britain has a strong liberal tradition that respects an individual’s right to full expression of religious views. But here, some 57 per cent of people still favoured a ban. In Germany, which is also reluctant to clamp down in minority rights, some 50 per cent favoured a ban

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e0c0e732-254d-11df-9cdb-00144feab49a.html

I’d have no problems with a ban on the burka here.

+1

I think pants should be banned!

commoner said :

Religion of all types should only be practised modestly and discreetly, in people’s own homes or in modest and non-obtrusive places of worship.

Especially Easter and Christmas. I find all the pre-Christmas propaganda shockingly indiscreet. Not to mention the waste of electricity and wastage of public funds on Christmas lighting. And what is up with all the Easter egg propaganda at this time of year? We have enough childhood obesity problems without religion encouraging children to eat more chocolate. Reatilers need to be more discreet and parents need to be more modest when celebrating Easter with their kids (start with banning those obtrusive Easter egg hunts).

While I’m at it, we need to also ban KRudd from doing doorstops at his church on Sundays. There’s nothing discreet or non-obtrusive about having the PM’s worshipping rammed down our throats.

Pommy bastard1:29 pm 11 Mar 10

More than half of voters in four other major European states back a push by France’s Nicolas Sarkozy to ban women from wearing the burka, according to an opinion poll for the Financial Times.

As Mr Sarkozy presses ahead with plans to ban the wearing of the burka in public places, the FT’s latest Harris poll shows the move is not just strongly supported in France, but wins enthusiastic backing in the UK, Italy, Spain and Germany.

The poll shows some 70 per cent of respondents in France said they supported plans to forbid the wearing of the garment which covers the female body from head to toe. There was similar sentiment in Spain and Italy, where 65 per cent and 63 per cent respectively favoured a ban

The strength of feeling in the UK and Germany may seem particularly surprising. Britain has a strong liberal tradition that respects an individual’s right to full expression of religious views. But here, some 57 per cent of people still favoured a ban. In Germany, which is also reluctant to clamp down in minority rights, some 50 per cent favoured a ban

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e0c0e732-254d-11df-9cdb-00144feab49a.html

I’d have no problems with a ban on the burka here.

amarooresident210:34 am 11 Mar 10

commoner said :

I am getting concerned about the increasing visibility of Islam here in Canberra. I don’t like seeing burqas and niqabs and I am not fooled by people who try to tell us that these somehow ‘liberate’ women. All of these burqas, Islamic schools and calls for the introduction of sharia law just make me think Muslims are trying to impose their religion on us. Religion of all types should only be practised modestly and discreetly, in people’s own homes or in modest and non-obtrusive places of worship. There are some Muslims in this country who do not understand this.

I really hope that this is supposed to be satire.

commoner said :

I am getting concerned about the increasing visibility of Islam here in Canberra. I don’t like seeing burqas and niqabs and I am not fooled by people who try to tell us that these somehow ‘liberate’ women. All of these burqas, Islamic schools and calls for the introduction of sharia law just make me think Muslims are trying to impose their religion on us. Religion of all types should only be practised modestly and discreetly, in people’s own homes or in modest and non-obtrusive places of worship. There are some Muslims in this country who do not understand this.

Maybe you should move to another country.

I am getting concerned about the increasing visibility of Islam here in Canberra. I don’t like seeing burqas and niqabs and I am not fooled by people who try to tell us that these somehow ‘liberate’ women. All of these burqas, Islamic schools and calls for the introduction of sharia law just make me think Muslims are trying to impose their religion on us. Religion of all types should only be practised modestly and discreetly, in people’s own homes or in modest and non-obtrusive places of worship. There are some Muslims in this country who do not understand this.

Yes non-denominational Islamic

Sunni, Shi’a, Sufism, Ahmadiyya, Salafi, Ibadism?

and

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_schools_and_branches

Ifti, people like you who publish extremist narrow minded rubbish that do not reflect the views of the majority of your religion are the main reason that a lot of prejudice exists in the world today. I’m 100% sure that statistics exist for the number of muslims doing all the exact same “broken” behaviours that you biasedly purport to occur in every other religion in the world except for your own. I’m 95% sure that the behaviours also occur at similar levels.

It is obvious from all the media coverage around this school that there have been very few objections to establishing an Islamic school on the Weston site with appropriate planning. The majority of people of Canberra are well educated people and understand that the Muslim school is not much different to any other religious school that exists, and that its curriculum is controlled in exactly the same way as any other school. I have no problems with parents choosing to send their children to religious schools even though I believe it’s all a load of rubbish, I could even do it one day.

Ifti said :

Britain has a broken society. This is a dark portrait ….

Um, OK.

Ifti it’s the intolerant uneducated loony bigots like you that give the rest of us Muslims a bad name.

Pommy bastard3:18 pm 10 Mar 10

Ifti, if Britain is “broken” as you suggest, then why do so many of the Islamic faith want to move there?

Maybe they’re practising witchcraft like those satanic Oranaists, eh Pandy?

Graham Cooke1:12 pm 10 Mar 10

Religious schools are a fact of life in Australia, which has the largest private education sector of any Western developed nation. Most of these are religious, overwhelmingly Catholic. They are not going to go away.

The Islamic School is just that – Islamic. Although I have not spoken to the school’s authorities on this specific point, I would suggest that Arabic is on the curriculum mainly to attract pupils who want to learn it, given that Arabic-speaking is a language skill that is in demand here, and will continue to be in demand for the foreseeable future.

Fouad Maatouk12:01 pm 10 Mar 10

imhotep said :

Ian said :

Cue the residents of wherever it is in Weston Ck to suddenly develop concerns about parking, traffic etc etc

More like cue immediate allegations of xenophobia and general redneckery toward anyone who raises a concern.

More like cue the immediate denials of xenophobia and general redneckery from those who never previously raised concerns about parking, traffic etc when anything else was being built in their neighbourhood.

Pandy said :

But is it an Arabic school or is it a non-denominational Islamic school? Big difference.

Pandy, I think ‘non-denominational Islamic’ is an oxymoron, ie incompatible. It is, as stated in the story, to be an islamic, ie, religious, school.

This is great news!

The less exposure my sons have to the unclean kaffirs, the better.

Britain has a broken society. This is a dark portrait but it is very true. Children are left to rot and they grew into animals. Binge drinking, drug addiction, a culture of disrespect and antisocial behavior, teenage pregnancies and abortions, knife and gun culture are part and parcel of every day life in all big city centers. The teenage pregnancies and the sheer madness of sex education teach nothing about morality. British society is suffering from unprecedented social decay and societal breakdown, according to the Children’s Society shocking evidence. Britain has more broken families than other countries. British children are rougher with each other, and live more riskily in terms of alcohol, drugs and teenage pregnancies. Britain’s rate of teenage pregnancy is the highest in Western Europe. According to official figures, nearly half of all babies are now born out of wedlock. They are more likely to suffer social, mental and emotional problems. Research has revealed that migrants in Britain are more likely to have children within marriage. The teaching of sex education could not curb teenage pregnancies. Infact, it has simply increased. This is a clear indication of broken society. It is an eye opening for the Muslim community who sends their children to state schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers.

In broken Britain, the break downs of family are ripping apart communities. According to a report, Scottish schools like English schools have become home for rapes, gun and knife culture, drug dealing, gang culture and racism. It is a horrendous portrayal of the collapse of civilized life and of human despair. Carrying weapons is becoming the norms, violence is “routine” and families are terrorized by gangs. Every parent is worried about his child being indoctrinated into the idea that gay and sexual promiscuity is “normal” modes of behavior. Homosexuality was regarded as mental illness but now blue eyed western educated elites are its defenders and promoters. The spectre of hidden epidemic of sex crimes inside Britain’s classrooms has emerged after Scotland Yard revealed there have been nearly 900 rapes or sex attacks in schools. The vast majority of victims were school children under the age of 16. As many as one in three were under 11. According to official figures, hundreds of children under the age of 12 were treated for addiction to drink and drugs.

Children are being taught that sexually transmitted diseases could be easily treated and there is no acknowledgement of the emotional harm of premature sexual activity. The truth is that more sex education and contraception are provided to children and teenagers, the more they fall pregnant. Studies have shown that access to contraception and sex education, sexual activity and conception and pregnancy rates go up. The sexual health of young Londoners is a “major public health issue” and still among the worst in the country, despite innovative projects and improvements in services.

The demand for Muslim schools comes from parents who want their children a
safe environment with an Islamic ethos. Parents see Muslim schools where children can develop their Islamic Identity where they won’t feel stigmatised for being Muslims and they can feel confident about their faith. The significance and value of Muslim schools is that the Islamic religion imposed obligations of good citizenship, keeping the peace and paying taxes. While ambition of state school is to get children humping each other before they are out of primary school and giving them parenting classes when they are fourteen to help the girls cope with the babies they will have conceived at thirteen.
Iftikhar Ahmad

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Pommy bastard8:57 am 10 Mar 10

UrbanAdventure.org said :

Stuff this idea of religious schools. There should be no religious schools at all. Just mix everyone in together and stop parents from teaching their kids to discriminate.

I totally agree. Schools should be schools, all should be equal. If you want your child to be indoctrinated into any religious cult, Islam, Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, Jedi, then that should not take place within a school environment.

But is it an Arabic school or is it a non-denominational Islamic school? Big difference.

Graham Cooke8:23 am 10 Mar 10

As the story says, it is open to any parent who wants that kind of education for their child. Australian children already attend the current primary school, mainly because of its Arabic classes.

Is the school open to all?

Ian said :

Cue the residents of wherever it is in Weston Ck to suddenly develop concerns about parking, traffic etc etc

More like cue immediate allegations of xenophobia and general redneckery toward anyone who raises a concern.

Cue the residents of wherever it is in Weston Ck to suddenly develop concerns about parking, traffic etc etc

UrbanAdventure.org7:00 pm 09 Mar 10

When I was a kid I went to a public pprimary school. It was in a very multi-cultural part of Melbourne. One year I was actually the only Australian kid in my class. We all got along though. There was no racism, no even reffering to each other as “that black kid” or crap like that. We just called each other by our names. It was great. As a result I’m very anti-racism and value different cultures immensly.

I really worry that segregating children based on anything is just a bad idea. Australia has many cultures and religion here. The kids of all of these should just mix, play, have fun, and be kids. Not be taught that they are “different”, “better” or that others are “worse” or to be hated.

Stuff this idea of religious schools. There should be no religious schools at all. Just mix everyone in together and stop parents from teaching their kids to discriminate.

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