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Cyclists, paths and warning bells

By ppt1ne - 20 September 2012 82

Why do cyclists still expect right of way on bike paths and footpaths?

If a pedestrian is using the path, and they are in your way, you need to SLOW DOWN and share the road, overtaking where safe.

Your bell means nothing anymore. Long gone are the days where a polite ‘ding’ means I will move off the path for you.

You can’t have your cake, and eat it too. Stay on the roads, or share.

What’s Your opinion?


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Cyclists, paths and warning bells
ToastFliesRED 10:28 am 20 Sep 12

ppt1ne said :

Ayone going to answer the question? Or just more self-assured ego tickling? Jeez.

And btw, the bike paths previously referred to are indeed shared paths.

So again, why do cyclists still expect right of way on bike paths/footpaths?

Possibly the closest you can get to an answer is that it depends on the individual cyclist. Some like to believe they have right of way on shared bike paths/footpaths, some like to believe they are immune to road rules when riding on the road, some expect right of way while cycling across a paedestrial crosswalk (zebra crossing), some are normal rational human beings who are courteous and obey the road rules. And this is not to say that any of those groups are mutually exclusive for even normal rational human beings sometimes have bad days and sometimes, just occasionally the other elements have a moment of lucidity in their thinking.

jase! 10:26 am 20 Sep 12

ppt1ne said :

Indeed, my friend. Intelligent people may see where I’m going with this…

I’m pretty clever and all i can see if that you are going to try and be an asshole. Unless you are blocking the path all I want from a pedestrian when i call bike is for you to do nothing, don’t take a step to the left, don’t make a jump to the right. just keep walking without a sudden change of direction.

ppt1ne 10:21 am 20 Sep 12

johnboy said :

Firstly a sure sign of an ignorant bigot is someone assuming that all members of a group they’re complaining about share collective knowledge, and guilt.

Secondly as a bike rider on the paths if I ding it is to let people know I am coming up from behind them.

If they are on the left then this is a courtesy.

If they are blocking the path in both directions it is to request they move over.

If two drivers going side by side were completely blocking the
road slowly I think you’d get more than a polite bip of the horn.

I thought you alright. I was wrong.

c_c 10:21 am 20 Sep 12

ppt1ne said :

So again, why do cyclists still expect right of way on bike paths/footpaths?

Because unless you’re a lardo, bike paths and most foot paths are wide enough for a cyclist to pass on the right hand side, and so long as they do it in an appropriate manner with fair warning, should be allowed to do so.

Bicycles are faster.

Bicycles are more cumbersome to stop and remount.

Convention on paths and roads is for slower persons/vehicles to give way and allow faster vehicles to pass.

Difficult concepts admittedly, given so many (including motorists) have trouble staying in their lane or on the left hand side of the road but most manage.

colourful sydney rac 10:18 am 20 Sep 12

ppt1ne said :

herp derp cyclists are ruining us all, herp derp

ppt1ne 10:18 am 20 Sep 12

thatsnotme said :

You can’t have your cake, and eat it too. Stay on the roads, or share.

You do know what ‘share’ means, right? That to share the path, both parties need to do their bit? And that if you’re making a conscious decision that even if a cyclist gives you a polite ding, you’re not going to move, that the only one not sharing the path is you?

Indeed, my friend. Intelligent people may see where I’m going with this…

shirty_bear 10:18 am 20 Sep 12

jase! said :

“Why do cyclists still expect right of way on bike paths”

ummm, maybe because they are bike paths?

I was led to believe (back in my days at NCDC) that these paths are actually gazetted as footpaths – not bike paths – due to some legalese reason of expediency. Over to you …

ppt1ne 10:14 am 20 Sep 12

Ayone going to answer the question? Or just more self-assured ego tickling? Jeez.

And btw, the bike paths previously referred to are indeed shared paths.

So again, why do cyclists still expect right of way on bike paths/footpaths?

tim_c 10:12 am 20 Sep 12

When I’m driving my car I don’t sound my car horn to tell everyone I’m about to overtake so when I’m on my bike, why would I ring a bell everytime I’m about to overtake someone?
But when I ride my bike on the cycleway, I expect pedestrians (and other cyclists) to not take up the whole width of the path so that I and others can overtake/pass – just the same as when I’m in my car, I expect cyclists not to take up the whole road so other road users can’t pass.

Gismondo 10:10 am 20 Sep 12

My bell dinging means i’m coming past, i don’t expect you to do anything except continue on the path you are heading. I’ll take care of the rest including going off road to accomodate you. I’ll repeat some of what ‘Jase!’ wrote

all i ask from pedestrians is:
– to be predictable;
– if you are wearing headphones and don’t hear me call bike it is your problem, not mine, so don’t get cranky at me because you get surprised; and
– if you are walking at night, use a flashing light or torch or something that makes you non-invisible on the more poorly lit areas of bike path

colourful sydney rac 10:04 am 20 Sep 12

Lack of originality, sadly predictable, limited use of Caps Lock, no exclamation marks. Poor effort 1/10. See me after class.

thatsnotme 9:58 am 20 Sep 12

You can’t have your cake, and eat it too. Stay on the roads, or share.

You do know what ‘share’ means, right? That to share the path, both parties need to do their bit? And that if you’re making a conscious decision that even if a cyclist gives you a polite ding, you’re not going to move, that the only one not sharing the path is you?

johnboy 9:55 am 20 Sep 12

Firstly a sure sign of an ignorant bigot is someone assuming that all members of a group they’re complaining about share collective knowledge, and guilt.

Secondly as a bike rider on the paths if I ding it is to let people know I am coming up from behind them.

If they are on the left then this is a courtesy.

If they are blocking the path in both directions it is to request they move over.

If two drivers going side by side were completely blocking the road slowly I think you’d get more than a polite bip of the horn.

jase! 9:52 am 20 Sep 12

“Why do cyclists still expect right of way on bike paths”

ummm, maybe because they are bike paths?

all i ask from pedestrians is:
a. to be predictable.
b. if you are going to take up the whole path be aware of your surroundings. 3 or 4 mothers walking side by side with prams means you need to look behind to see what is coming
c. control your dog, this means on a lead, when people are passing shorten the lead as much as practicable
d. if you are wearing headphones and don’t hear me call bike it is your problem, not mine, so don’t get cranky at me because you get surprised.

sirorange 9:35 am 20 Sep 12

I’m someone that rides and walks regularly so think there is more than enough room for both.

We can all share, sounding your bell is just a polite way to ask for the 2 seconds that it takes to pass to get past to have the path.

When walking, I find it worse when cycalists don’t have bells and don’t sound ‘bike at least i know. It’s dangerous as you have no idea there is a bike approaching behind you. Pedestrians can be unpredictable and move all over the path, if they are walking dog’s this can be even worse. Having a bell is a great way for avoiding injuries and sharing the footpath.

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