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Dead body found in Ainslie

By Felix the Cat 19 April 2008 18

A report on radio 2CC this afternoon (can’t find any online links yet) stated that a decomposing body was found in Ainslie this afternoon at the intersection of Quick St and Limestone Ave (across the road from Olims Hotel). Apparently one of the workers who was erecting temporary fencing for the torch relay discovered the body. The body is believed to be possibly of a homeless person who lived in the area.

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ant 9:59 pm 12 May 08

Vicepop said:

VicePope said :

A relative of the poor chap was bemoaning in the press the lack of government action to help him, although acknowledging that he (the greving rellie) hadn’t swung by for a long time because the chap was getting on ok and likely to become angry. It strikes me that this is not one for government, but for family/friends, with them calling in the community to help if needed.

Oh gosh, when I read this bloke ranting in the media about how “the government” didn’t solve everything while at the same time saying that he and the rest of the dead man’s family hadn’t done a thing, I was really indignant.

Evidently the guy was mentally ill, and hard to deal with, and wanted to live in the open and do his thing. OK. But for a family member to blame “the government” when his actual FAMILY did nothing, is bloody rich! For god’s sake! Come off it.

VicePope 8:52 pm 12 May 08

Sepi – I am not sure if I agree, but concede that the issue is really difficult and sensible people could differ. If someone pointedly lives out of the mainstream, how should welfare authorities decide whether that is because the person is mad or because the person really wants to be alone? How do they check on welfare without intruding into privacy? We are all the poorer when this kind of thing happens, or when some old soul dies unnoticed in a housing commission flat in Sydney, but would well-meaning social workers or police be causing even more pain and disruption by disturbing those who don’t want to be disturbed?

If an “outsider” is troubled, who should act? Those who notice? Those who are paid to look? Or those who are associated with the person and may notice the trouble? Where are the borders between individual responsibility and the responsibility of others and between the responsibility of families and society? This is hard stuff.

sepi 8:16 pm 12 May 08

Dealing with scary, uncontrollable, sad or off the rails people should not be down to their family. That is like saying that dealing with the sick should be up to relatives. And what about people who have no family? Or what if you are the only sane one in a bad bunch – you just sacrifice your life to caring for people who won’t give you the time of day.

Society should have mechanisms for dealing with people who cannot live within the mainstream.

VicePope 7:16 pm 12 May 08

This case created an interesting issue that may warrant some thought.

A relative of the poor chap was bemoaning in the press the lack of government action to help him, although acknowledging that he (the greving rellie) hadn’t swung by for a long time because the chap was getting on ok and likely to become angry. It strikes me that this is not one for government, but for family/friends, with them calling in the community to help if needed. (I think it’s unreasonably onerous and would amount to trampling interference with personal privacy). But maybe that’s not a realistic position and maybe there is an expectation that government should be aware of any issue affecting the welfare of any citizen. And maybe there is a public duty to ensure that anyone, even the voluntarily alienated, is ok.

Anyway, that’s a kickoff. Please boot it somewhere, someone. I’m worried that I’m becoming curmudgeonly.

RealBasic 5:49 pm 12 May 08

Ha ha… yeah ^^

6 weeks is a long time to be decomposing. I feel sorry for the guy who found him, would’ve been awful.

Mr Evil 1:44 pm 21 Apr 08

neanderthalsis said :

Affordable housing close to the CBD – A humpy on Mt Ainslie

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo – you’ll give Bob Winnell more ideas of how to take over the whole ACT housing development market!

neanderthalsis 1:25 pm 21 Apr 08

Affordable housing close to the CBD – A humpy on Mt Ainslie

Mr Evil 12:19 pm 21 Apr 08

Sounds like he was done in by Jim Beam, Jack Daniels and Johnnie Walker.

p1 12:01 pm 21 Apr 08

Sounds like he wasn’t so much homesless, as his home was a humpy on Mt Anslie. Five years in residence of a stone and wood structure sounds like a home to me.

madman 11:16 am 21 Apr 08

http://canberra.yourguide.com.au/news/local/general/remnants-of-cold-lonely-life-left-in-humpy/1227520.html

Just incase anyone is looking for news on this post.

The man had apparently been dead for up to 6 weeks found in his humpy just near the CSIRO building in Ainslie – he had lived there for 5 years.

ant 9:57 pm 20 Apr 08

No, it’s more than that. I guess in the olden days, they were the swaggies, staying on the move, sleeping outside. For whatever reason, it feels better to them.

Felix the Cat 5:57 pm 20 Apr 08

Thumper said :

Quite a number of these people choose to live this way.

Why? I have no idea.

Possibly because they can’t afford $400 a week rent…

Thumper 5:31 pm 20 Apr 08

Quite a number of these people choose to live this way.

Why? I have no idea.

Timberwolf65 4:23 pm 20 Apr 08

I remember driving past that bit once and actually seening a little hut like thing made out of a fallen over tree. Thats sad if it is a homeless person. It’s sad that it’s a person…

Pickle 10:50 am 20 Apr 08

Limestone Lizzie?

ant 9:37 am 20 Apr 08

Quick St… Ainslie village is just a few doors up from that corner. Maybe he was using teh Village for meals and showers etc. These outdoors-dwellers repeatedly choose their lifestyle, for whatever reason it feels right to them. There’s quite a few of them around the district.

Special G 9:14 am 20 Apr 08

I would argue the guy was not homeless. He choose to live in the outdoors and had his set up there on the hill. There are another couple of blokes up there who do the same. These guys don’t like to or could not live in a conventional house.

I-filed 5:01 pm 19 Apr 08

Sad. by the way, the torch fencing is a little unfortunate: it makes it all look as though they’re expecting massive crowds all the way along the 10km or so …

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