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Don’t mask the mosque

By John Hargreaves 23 January 2015 25

Muslims in prayer

I recently went to the open day of the Gungahlin Muslim community and had a very enjoyable but brief time there. I had to go and feed the five thousand descending on my place for a feed-up later that day.

The visit made me think of a few things.

Firstly the occasion was very welcoming. The speech by the Anglican minister down the road showed how interfaith can work if only we give it a go. The common thread was that people gather together to recognise, celebrate or worship the god of their choice. They don’t gather to plot the downfall of each other.

The second thing that occurred to me was that the building, something which will magically emerge on the footings visible to me, will be an welcome architectural addition to the town centre. It won’t be the archetypical mosque that some imagine but a house of prayer, quiet reflection and complementary architecture.

Anyone remember the hullabaloo that accompanied the thought of a mosque there? There were legal challenges which saw a decision in the High Court. The detractors and those with spurious arguments like traffic and noise were given a very loud and clear message. What part of NO! don’t they understand?

There was no such noise, no such legal challenge going to the High Court, no objections on traffic or noise grounds to the construction of the Anglican Church only two blocks down in the same street!

Now we see the same old hoary arguments being mounted against a mosque in Weston.

This is the same old argument presented by the same old objectors. Why don’t they just get over it?

Do they object when the Catholic and Anglican bells ring out on a Sunday morning? Have brekkie in Manuka at about 10 or 11 am on a Sunday if you don’t remember.

Are there volumes of letters to the paper about the missionaries from the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) who come a-knockin’? And the Salvos are now in the limelight of the child abuse horror joining the Catholics and Anglicans.

Howe about some common sense? When did you last hear a knock on your door from a Muslim seeking to convert you? When was the last time you protested through the paper about the noise from St Christopher’s or St Paul’s? When was the traffic problem in Manuka laid at the churches’ doors?

Let’s count the number of mosques and Islamic centres in Canberra and measure them up against the number of Christian churches and temples and see how they fare.

How about some balance? How about giving reality to the notion of friendship to our neighbours? How about we set an example to the other capital cities? I happen to like and appreciate the Buddhist temples (check out the Lao one in Kambah), the mosque, the churches, and Salvos’ halls (check out Wanniassa). Check out the Hindu temples in Mawson and Torrens.

These are assets – not liabilities – for our city.

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dungfungus 1:34 pm 27 Jan 15

watto23 said :

anto said :

dungfungus said :

anto said :

dungfungus said :

Weatherman said :

There is a Christian Outreach Centre opposite Monash Mosque. The Yarralumla Mosque is opposite the Malaysian High Commission and close to the Egyptian Embassy. However, these are more cultural organisations. The Mosque there is affiliated in close association with the diplomatic community and families.

The Christian Outreach Centre buildings opposite the Monash mosque is not the place of worship of that organisation. The ACT place of worship is in Macquarie.
You were asked to describe “moderate Islam”. Should I hold my breath waiting?

Yes please. For a very long time.

I’ll accept that means “moderate Islam” is a contradiction in terms then.

Please don’t. Accept it as an unnecessarily glib response on my part. See it as a response from someone who is a little fed-up seeing terms like moderate Islam enclosed in inverted commas. See it as a response from someone who understands that Canberra is culturally and geographically a long way from countries whose people practice a moderate and compassionate Islam, day-in and day-out, and so remain unnoticed and unknown to many in Canberra, but wished they were better known and understood.

Completely agree. The people who think islam isn’t a normal stable religion as good/bad as any other religion, are the ones who are irrational and have issues. Religions of all types have committed some horrendous crimes and at present it seems a small group of one type of Islam are hellbent on ruining as many lives as they can. Its aided by shock jocks and other people who can use the media mouthpiece to use the situation for their own financial gains and nothing to do with safety of anyone.

You are right in saying that all types of religions have committed horrendous crimes but only one hasn’t moved on an it continues to maintain the same tenets as it did 600 years ago.

watto23 12:34 pm 27 Jan 15

anto said :

dungfungus said :

anto said :

dungfungus said :

Weatherman said :

There is a Christian Outreach Centre opposite Monash Mosque. The Yarralumla Mosque is opposite the Malaysian High Commission and close to the Egyptian Embassy. However, these are more cultural organisations. The Mosque there is affiliated in close association with the diplomatic community and families.

The Christian Outreach Centre buildings opposite the Monash mosque is not the place of worship of that organisation. The ACT place of worship is in Macquarie.
You were asked to describe “moderate Islam”. Should I hold my breath waiting?

Yes please. For a very long time.

I’ll accept that means “moderate Islam” is a contradiction in terms then.

Please don’t. Accept it as an unnecessarily glib response on my part. See it as a response from someone who is a little fed-up seeing terms like moderate Islam enclosed in inverted commas. See it as a response from someone who understands that Canberra is culturally and geographically a long way from countries whose people practice a moderate and compassionate Islam, day-in and day-out, and so remain unnoticed and unknown to many in Canberra, but wished they were better known and understood.

Completely agree. The people who think islam isn’t a normal stable religion as good/bad as any other religion, are the ones who are irrational and have issues. Religions of all types have committed some horrendous crimes and at present it seems a small group of one type of Islam are hellbent on ruining as many lives as they can. Its aided by shock jocks and other people who can use the media mouthpiece to use the situation for their own financial gains and nothing to do with safety of anyone.

anto 6:57 am 27 Jan 15

dungfungus said :

anto said :

dungfungus said :

Weatherman said :

There is a Christian Outreach Centre opposite Monash Mosque. The Yarralumla Mosque is opposite the Malaysian High Commission and close to the Egyptian Embassy. However, these are more cultural organisations. The Mosque there is affiliated in close association with the diplomatic community and families.

The Christian Outreach Centre buildings opposite the Monash mosque is not the place of worship of that organisation. The ACT place of worship is in Macquarie.
You were asked to describe “moderate Islam”. Should I hold my breath waiting?

Yes please. For a very long time.

I’ll accept that means “moderate Islam” is a contradiction in terms then.

Please don’t. Accept it as an unnecessarily glib response on my part. See it as a response from someone who is a little fed-up seeing terms like moderate Islam enclosed in inverted commas. See it as a response from someone who understands that Canberra is culturally and geographically a long way from countries whose people practice a moderate and compassionate Islam, day-in and day-out, and so remain unnoticed and unknown to many in Canberra, but wished they were better known and understood.

dungfungus 10:08 am 26 Jan 15

anto said :

dungfungus said :

Weatherman said :

There is a Christian Outreach Centre opposite Monash Mosque. The Yarralumla Mosque is opposite the Malaysian High Commission and close to the Egyptian Embassy. However, these are more cultural organisations. The Mosque there is affiliated in close association with the diplomatic community and families.

The Christian Outreach Centre buildings opposite the Monash mosque is not the place of worship of that organisation. The ACT place of worship is in Macquarie.
You were asked to describe “moderate Islam”. Should I hold my breath waiting?

Yes please. For a very long time.

I’ll accept that means “moderate Islam” is a contradiction in terms then.

anto 12:50 pm 25 Jan 15

dungfungus said :

Weatherman said :

There is a Christian Outreach Centre opposite Monash Mosque. The Yarralumla Mosque is opposite the Malaysian High Commission and close to the Egyptian Embassy. However, these are more cultural organisations. The Mosque there is affiliated in close association with the diplomatic community and families.

The Christian Outreach Centre buildings opposite the Monash mosque is not the place of worship of that organisation. The ACT place of worship is in Macquarie.
You were asked to describe “moderate Islam”. Should I hold my breath waiting?

Yes please. For a very long time.

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