8 October 2024

It's hard being independently independent in this ACT election

| Chris Johnson
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Independents for Canberra: despite the name, there are other candidates running as ‘independents’ in the ACT election. Photo: IFC.

Canberrans have already begun early voting and the ACT’s actual election day is less than two weeks away.

The parties have their policies well and truly out there, and tonight (8 October), Andrew Barr and Elizabeth Lee will go head-to-head at the National Press Club for a televised debate where we will all get to hear more about Labor/Greens and Liberal policies.

But I want to talk a little about the independents in this election and a quirk of the campaign that has been beneficial to some and detrimental to others.

It’s all in the name.

This territory election has seen a healthy showing of independent candidates vying for an electoral win in a Hare-Clark system that doesn’t make it easy if you’re not from one of the three major parties.

This election, however, independents are making a noise, being heard and, for some, they’re being taken seriously.

But there’s the anomaly.

For a growing number of Canberrans, the belief is that the independents are all aligned and are just one group.

And it’s a misconception the government and the opposition are more than willing to exploit.

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The Libs say a vote for independents will be a vote for the Greens, while Labor says an independent vote will go straight to the Liberals.

“The only time the Canberra Liberals have formed government in the ACT is with the support of independents,” says one ALP ad.

“So if you’re voting independent this election, you might be putting the most conservative Liberals in the country into power.

“Liberals who voted against abortion access and against voluntary assisted dying.”

It’s that last line that has got a few of the independent candidates riled.

Some of them are vehemently opposed to restricting women’s rights to abortion and just as strongly in favour of voluntary assisted dying.

Yet Labor, with one general statement, has tarred all of the independents in this campaign with the same brush.

They know there are various groups of independents and that they differ on policy positions.

The Libs know it, too, but it is very convenient for the conservatives to encourage the idea that all of the indies are ‘radical lefties’.

For many voters, it is easy to believe that the independents are all one movement. Maybe it has something to do with how they’re named.

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Independents for Canberra chose wisely.

That’s a clever name and it has morphed into ‘Canberra Independents’ for many.

Whether by design or just good luck, when people refer to independents at this stage of the election campaign, they increasingly think the Independents for Canberra are the sum total of the Canberra independent candidates.

The government is happy with that because, despite there being some good candidates among the Independents for Canberra, there is more formidable experience, brainpower, community involvement and debating ability from some of the smaller independent candidates and groupings in this campaign.

Independent candidate Fiona Carrick attracted the largest independent vote in the 2020 election. Photo: fionacarrick.com.

Fiona Carrick, who is running in Murrumbidgee, almost won a seat previously due to her extraordinary community advocacy.

Peter Strong and Ann Bray of Strong Independents (another clever name) have enormous experience in business, community and diplomacy.

These are all affronted by being grouped in with a homogeneous ‘Canberra Liberals’ moniker and with the major parties saying they are all the same and confederate.

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Ann Bray is running with Peter Strong under the Strong Independents banner. Photo: Ann Bray.

Ann Bray is particularly outraged that Andrew Barr would suggest a vote for her would be a vote to help the Liberals outlaw abortion and voluntary assisted dying.

It’s an easy jab for the government to make, and I guess that’s politics.

But when Labor and Liberal leaders only want to debate one group of independents with the reasoning that they represent all of the independent candidates, we can be sure it’s because they don’t want to go up against the more experienced – and more truly independent – campaigners.

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A Belco Party ad seen posted around town that has Gungahlin spelt wrong. Photo: Region.

That brings us to the Belco Party, spearheaded by former Liberal Party leader Bill Stefaniak.

They can be as truly independent as any of the others, but if they can’t even spell Gungahlin correctly (as this campaign poster of theirs attests), then they really have no claim to being connected to the community.

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Helene Jermolajew8:42 pm 09 Oct 24

You do realise that candidates do not make their own signs, they outsource that job. I’m a stickler for correct spelling however in this situation it would have been more interesting to here an opinion on the Belco party’s policies than picking on some sign writer’s error.

Aaron Prowse7:24 pm 09 Oct 24

It’s Still a 2 party system, I think everybody shouldn’t vote maybe to Teach Them a lesson that we all think it’s corrupt. Don’t vote enjoy life instead

@Aaron Prowse
I’m not sure how you expect to “Teach Them a lesson” by not voting.

Nevertheless, that’s your democratic choice which you are free to make. Just don’t come here complaining about the elected MLAs after the election when you didn’t even have your say.

Aaron Prowse7:18 pm 09 Oct 24

DON’T VOTE ENJOY LIFE INSTEAD

I won’t vote for any Independent who supports light rail to Woden at tremendous expense and an increase in rates and charges.

Light rail is less than 1% of the Budget so your fears appear to be misplaced.

The Canberra Liberals have never supported light rail teddy bear!

A vote for the independents is a vote for the Liberals!

Jack, a vote for Labor is a vote for the Greens, or will you rule out another alliance?

Maybe so nobody but, unlike the duplicity we are seeing from the independents, the Greens have been up front in stating that they will not support a Liberal government.

And as you should be well aware, who knows what the makeup of the new parliament will be!

Will the independents form an alliance with the Liberals as they have been implying they will?

Jack, a minority Liberal government, held in check by the Independents, sounds like a refreshing change.

I am confused! The Independent candidates promote themselves as a grouping of individuals with different ideas on what they will bring to the assembly, but on the other they say they are all aligned and just one united party!

Just who are the independents? Are they a grouping of individuals with different intents and purposes refusing to compromise their beliefs should they win balance of power or are they a united party with set policy positions? Anyone who questions their ideas are directed towards their website which lacks details.

The Independents refuse to reveal which of the major parties they will support should they win balance of power. Will they be prepared to provide ongoing and consistent support for any one party or will they just cause turmoil and confusion? Flip-flopping between parties and issues, refusing to compromise their beliefs on what is best for our city and its future.

These so-called independents who may possibly control the balance of power in a new government who are not prepared to compromise with any one side is a recipe for disaster and paves the way for the most dysfunctional parliament our city has ever seen!

Jack, will Labor rule out forming another alliance with Greens, or will you keep us in the dark until after the election?

Jack D.
We know that you, and your cabal on first floor of City Plaza Apartments, are easily confused when it comes to the non-Labor matters of ACT politics – some would say even on matters Labor in ACT politicis, but I would never be so unkind.

Nevertheless, those of us who are not interested in the lemming-like party voting principle, understand that, while people can share the same ideological ethos, they can also embrace individual thought. So far from being confusing, it’s actually refreshing to see a group of candidates under a single banner who are free to vote as they see fit – without fear of being ostracised, or even punted, from the collective.

Oh and as for your prediction that the world will cease to exist should the independents control the balance of power? The ACT has had several independent controlled minority (rather than a coalition) governments, including the first Follett-led 1989 – 1991 Labor ACT government. Not surprisingly, the sky didn’t fall in and those governments were able to achieve accountable outcomes through negotiation

As I have stated before nobody, after the next election let the Greens and Liberals negotiate and see how their party members like that!

Maybe you can answer my question. Are the independents a grouping with vastly different desires or are they a party under the one banner?

The Greens, unlike the independents, have been up front in refusing to support the Liberals should they win balance of power in a new government.

The Independents refuse to reveal which of the major parties they will support should they win balance of power. Will they be prepared to provide ongoing and consistent support for any one party or will they just cause turmoil and confusion, flip-flopping between parties and issues, refusing to compromise their beliefs on what is best for our city and its future?

Just a few simple questions!

GrumpyGrandpa8:05 pm 08 Oct 24

Jack D, should the Independents be elected, I believe they should abstain from voting for a CM, AND the Greens should do so as well.

It’d be far better to have a minority government; answerable to the Assembly and Voters than what we have had for the last 16 years.

Jack, are you saying Labor will hop into bed with anyone to hold onto power?

“or will they just cause turmoil and confusion, flip-flopping between parties and issues, refusing to compromise their beliefs on what is best for our city and its future?”

It’s funny that you think taking each issue/policy on its merits and assessing them individually somehow will cause turmoil and confusion.

Perfectly encapsulates the thinking of people captured by major parties who have lost the ability to think for themselves, slaves to the collective.

@Jack D.
Forget what the independents will do, Jack D. Why don’t you answer nobody’s simple question?

Have you and your fellow Labor strategists on the first floor of City Plaza Apartments advised your glorious leader to bypass another 4 year Labor/Greens coalition, should your party not gain a majority on 19 October?

Why do I have to ignore what the independents stand for or question their plans should they win balance of power JustSaying? I am a voter and have every right to question what the independents stand for as I did above, but nobody will answer my questions!

What are you so angered and obsessed about with the 1st floor of the City Plaza which is Labor Party HQ and you keep ranting about JS? What has it got to do with me, I have never been there nor ever mentioned it in any of my posts!

Nor have I ever once mentioned the depressing 1950’s era, Liberal party HQ Menzies House in Barton! Have you been there? I am sure you have!

A vote for the independents is a vote for the Canberra Liberals!

“A vote for the independents is a vote for the Canberra Liberals!”

Unsurprisingly, Jack D is outright lying again.

Par for the course these days.

@Jack D.
Ahhhh OK … so you do your work for Labor remotely …. got to love WFH.

Given you will never vote anything but Labor, your attempt at objective assessment of a possible outcome is purely provaocative. As someone who considers their vote to be more than following the party ‘how to vote’ card, I wouldn’t expect an answer of who the independents will put into government until the decision is actually before them. Then they will have access to all of the relevant information, including the majority popular vote – which I see as a consideration, being a good indicator of the democratic will of the electorate.

Thank you for the history lesson on Liberal Party HQ. Ummm nope – never been there.

As for your attempt to dissuade independent voters with unsubstaniated consequences? They must really be cutting a swathe through Labor confidence, in the outcome on Saturday week, if you have to resort to petty scaremongering.

Our Hare Clark voting system gives rise to single issue fringe parties such as the current independents and paves the way for minority governments and instability. Anyone who lived in the ACT during the 1990s would remember the dysfunction wrought on our parliament by the independents. Bigots who were anti-gay and anti-abortion rights and others with various catchy names including a residents rally and abolish self-government party controlling the balance of power! Supporting one side of government, they caused mayhem, quickly switching sides to the Liberals after successfully bringing a no confidence motion against Labor. After a number of internal disputes they then switched sides again, with one joining the Liberals!

The current Canberra Liberals are the most socially conservative division of the party in the country. Not unusually, Liberal candidates in this year’s election are the most conservative the party has ever put forward, closely aligned with far-right fringe and religious groups.

What is stopping the independents should they win the balance of power in a new assembly supporting the Canberra Liberals to form government? Supporting and winding back hard-fought reforms the Liberals previously opposed including end of life decisions, LGBTQOA+ rights, women’s health and reproductive choices, drug law reforms, etc?

The Independents refuse to reveal which party they will support if they are successful in winning the balance of power. Two independents have revealed they will never support a Labor government led by Andrew Barr. One independent provided feedback in these pages criticising our parliament’s inquiry system, one of the most important roles of our Assembly in which the public and advocacy groups have their say.

I stand by my comments that a vote for the independents is a vote for the Canberra Liberals!

Jack doubling down on his lies without actually providing one single actual verifiable reason for them.

He even admits he is wrong in his own words:

“What is stopping the independents should they win the balance of power in a new assembly supporting the Canberra Liberals to form government?”

What is stopping them from supporting anyone Jack? There’s more than one choice you realise?
You’ve agreed yourself that you don’t know that a vote for them is a vote for the Liberals with your own statements.

Even your claims about 2 independents dislike of Andrew Barr is meaningless to their supposed support for a Liberal government. One of those same people is a women’s and LGBQTI activist and you somehow weirdly think they would repeal rights in those areas? More than strange.

Anyone that’s lived through any time of ACT Government knows that the legislative assembly has never provided the right level of governance controls to provide stable and functioning government. It’s always been a mess because the ACT is not truly big enough for self government.

Jack wanting to cherrypick one point in time when he personally thinks the LA was dysfunctional is meaningless to the people actually standing for election this year.

Pretty much all of the independents have come out with a left leaning progressive position, yet Jack thinks they would support in his own words ” the most conservative right wing branch in Australia” to form government.

In the other thread about them, almost all right leaning posters are decrying them as some form of Green Lite candidates.

Yeah, you can stand by your words Jack, they just don’t make sense to anyone who actually listens to what the independents have said.

@Jack D.
Far worse than the Hare Clark voting system, is the ACT’s unicameral Legislative Assembly, which has given the Labor and Labor/Green governments successive four year terms of power without recourse to anyone but themselves, in the ensuing period. That same Hare Clark voting system returned them each election because the electorate considered the alternative to be far worse.

I did live in the ACT during the 1990s, and I recall it being a rather good place to live. Unlike you, I don’t have recurring nightmares over “… the dysfunction wrought on our parliament by the independents.” Rather I remember a time when CMs such as Labor’s Rosemary Follett were able to bring together a motley bunch and work with them to achieve outcomes.

Furthermore, I also remember independent and subsequent minister in the Carnell and later Humphries Liberal governments, Michael Moore. You may recall that Moore, a social progressive, was successful in a number of reforms in the ACT – notably the legalisation of prostitution, the decriminalisation of cannabis and was a strong advocate for trialling the provision of heroin to dependent users. And this from a LIBERAL minority government.

So spare us your sycophantic and unsubstantiated whining that the world will collapse under anything remotely resembling a Legislative Assembly able to hold the government of the day to account.

“What is stopping the independents should they win the balance of power in a new assembly supporting the Canberra Liberals to form government?”
Nothing at all … it’s how a democracy works. If the will of the people, acted upon by their democratically elected representatives, is to have a minority Liberal government, so be it.

Finally, you can stand by your “… a vote for the independents is a vote for the Canberra Liberals!” as much as you like – it’s still a crock.

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