Free Education at KSS?

KSSparent 1 December 2010 63

Can someone please explain to why it costs so much to send a child to Kingsford Smith School…

Lockers $30 a team, Book pack for next year $246 (pre-payment only… must be paid by December 10), new uniforms for Year 7, and again in Year 9…. I have children at a different high school and it’s $10 for the lockers, $90 for the books packs (can be paid for next year on collection), and one uniform for the whole 4 years….

So much for a free education!!!


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somewhere_between_bundah_and_goulburn somewhere_between_bundah_and_goulburn 11:24 pm 07 Dec 10

trickyxr said :

KSSparent said :

These kids are from another country and have a pack mentality.

Is it a country of Former Yugoslavia?

Amaroo and Gold Creek schools have the same problems with kids from that area.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 11:56 am 06 Dec 10

georgesgenitals said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

trickyxr, I am not sure if you are taking the piss or not. I will assume you are not.

You have drawn attention to the race of these people for no particular reason – how is it relevant that they are from ‘another country’?

Am I allowed to propose the (perhaps naive) answer that it was simply a means of clearly identifying the group?

FWIW, I don’t really know anythign about the situation, but maintain that it sounds like a job for the police.

Maybe, but when terms like ‘pack mentality’ and images of ‘extended families’ coming down to the school in hoardes is mentioned as well, it evokes the good old fashioned ‘yellow peril’ hysteria.

georgesgenitals georgesgenitals 10:34 am 06 Dec 10

colourful sydney racing identity said :

trickyxr, I am not sure if you are taking the piss or not. I will assume you are not.

You have drawn attention to the race of these people for no particular reason – how is it relevant that they are from ‘another country’?

Am I allowed to propose the (perhaps naive) answer that it was simply a means of clearly identifying the group?

FWIW, I don’t really know anythign about the situation, but maintain that it sounds like a job for the police.

Erg0 Erg0 9:47 am 06 Dec 10

trickyxr said :

Erg0 said :

trickyxr said :

Erg0 said :

housebound: Conversely, labelling a group of “kids from another country” as racist because they’re at odds with the school’s anglo population, as trickyxr did, is equally incorrect.

You people make me sick.. what would you know? These people are racist towards white people so no need to stick up for them they are what they are. Why am i racist or a bigot for purely pointing out what group of kids are causing these problems. They are the African kids, not all of the african kida at the school, but all of the group are africans.
I am not racist but do have a problem with Idiot dogooders… So all go and have a cry and winge to someone who cares because i dont care what you think..

So it’s not racist for you to mention that they happen to be African, but it is racist for them to pick a fight with a kid who happens to be white. Got it.

Putting aside the questionable reliability of kids’ eyewitness accounts, I’m in complete agreement with george: if there are weapons and people from outside the school involved then this is a matter for the police, not the principal.

No it is not racist for me to mention that they are African. Can you explain to me how it is racist to mention where a group of people are from.

The meaning of Racist
Meaning: a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others.
I never said i was superior did I?

I never said you were racist, did I? My point was that it was incorrect for you to call them racist based purely on the fact that they’re engaged in a disagreement with people of a different race – which you’ve just proved with your quote above.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 9:03 am 06 Dec 10

trickyxr, I am not sure if you are taking the piss or not. I will assume you are not.

You have drawn attention to the race of these people for no particular reason – how is it relevant that they are from ‘another country’?

trickyxr trickyxr 4:01 pm 03 Dec 10

Erg0 said :

trickyxr said :

Erg0 said :

housebound: Conversely, labelling a group of “kids from another country” as racist because they’re at odds with the school’s anglo population, as trickyxr did, is equally incorrect.

You people make me sick.. what would you know? These people are racist towards white people so no need to stick up for them they are what they are. Why am i racist or a bigot for purely pointing out what group of kids are causing these problems. They are the African kids, not all of the african kida at the school, but all of the group are africans.
I am not racist but do have a problem with Idiot dogooders… So all go and have a cry and winge to someone who cares because i dont care what you think..

So it’s not racist for you to mention that they happen to be African, but it is racist for them to pick a fight with a kid who happens to be white. Got it.

Putting aside the questionable reliability of kids’ eyewitness accounts, I’m in complete agreement with george: if there are weapons and people from outside the school involved then this is a matter for the police, not the principal.

No it is not racist for me to mention that they are African. Can you explain to me how it is racist to mention where a group of people are from.

The meaning of Racist
Meaning: a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others.
I never said i was superior did I?

trickyxr trickyxr 3:55 pm 03 Dec 10

colourful sydney racing identity said :

trickyxr said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

trickyxr said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

#29 bigotted poster is a bigot

How so please explain… Piss me off

you
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Yes real serious you wierdo, explain how i am a bigot or are you to stupid to do so? The post #29 would describe them as been the bigots not me, so explain to me how my response is a biggoted response of a biggot..
I
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you
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weirdo

Okay, I will put it as simply as I can for you. You go to pains to point out that the trouble makers are ‘from a different country’ – if they were born in Australia would you have said the trouble makers are ‘from Australia’.

You then go on to evoke xenophobia through ‘they have a pack mentality’ which you then add to by dragging in the extended families. These points by themself don’t mean much but when you throw in that they ‘are from a different country’ your dog whistle is so loud my bulldog has pricked up her ears and the poor old girl has been dead for 30 years.

So I shouldnt say anything? They are aloud to be racist to my son and his friends Yet I am not aloud to point out what they are doing and what group they are? Without been called a racist? Wrong. Now if it was a group of white kids i doubt they would be racist to other white kids they would be bullies but i cant see them been racist to there own now would they.

You are trying to pick a fight for no reason as I was not been racist I was simply pointing out who and what has been going on at this school. So Simply even you should be able to understand however i will forgive you for been a Idiot.

georgesgenitals georgesgenitals 2:48 pm 03 Dec 10

BeeGee said :

Maybe all the parents who are concerned about these matters should all go to the school at the same time, and let the school and the board know that we are unhappy. I’m starting to feel as though its going to take numbers of concerned parents to get this situation fixed.

If that doesn’t work, go straight to the minister.

If everyone were to write to the school, copying in the ministers office, with the same complaint, it would probably get some air time.

BeeGee BeeGee 2:22 pm 03 Dec 10

Maybe all the parents who are concerned about these matters should all go to the school at the same time, and let the school and the board know that we are unhappy. I’m starting to feel as though its going to take numbers of concerned parents to get this situation fixed.

If that doesn’t work, go straight to the minister.

Erg0 Erg0 12:30 pm 03 Dec 10

trickyxr said :

Erg0 said :

housebound: Conversely, labelling a group of “kids from another country” as racist because they’re at odds with the school’s anglo population, as trickyxr did, is equally incorrect.

You people make me sick.. what would you know? These people are racist towards white people so no need to stick up for them they are what they are. Why am i racist or a bigot for purely pointing out what group of kids are causing these problems. They are the African kids, not all of the african kida at the school, but all of the group are africans.
I am not racist but do have a problem with Idiot dogooders… So all go and have a cry and winge to someone who cares because i dont care what you think..

So it’s not racist for you to mention that they happen to be African, but it is racist for them to pick a fight with a kid who happens to be white. Got it.

Putting aside the questionable reliability of kids’ eyewitness accounts, I’m in complete agreement with george: if there are weapons and people from outside the school involved then this is a matter for the police, not the principal.

Genie Genie 11:50 am 03 Dec 10

BeeGee said :

Has anyone asked ACTION if they can put an extra staff member on the KSS buses ramdomly? Mind you it shouldn’t have to resort to that.

First of all, bullies are the scum of the earth.

But if this is happening on ACTION buses, is it the schools responsibility ?

Personally if its the same students causing problems on the bus, they should be denied access. Maybe when the parents are forced to come pick their children up or have them walk a great distance home, they can wake up to themselves and teach their children respect for others.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 8:43 am 03 Dec 10

trickyxr said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

trickyxr said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

#29 bigotted poster is a bigot

How so please explain… Piss me off

you
can
not
be
serious

Yes real serious you wierdo, explain how i am a bigot or are you to stupid to do so? The post #29 would describe them as been the bigots not me, so explain to me how my response is a biggoted response of a biggot..
I
am
serious
you
are
weirdo

Okay, I will put it as simply as I can for you. You go to pains to point out that the trouble makers are ‘from a different country’ – if they were born in Australia would you have said the trouble makers are ‘from Australia’.

You then go on to evoke xenophobia through ‘they have a pack mentality’ which you then add to by dragging in the extended families. These points by themself don’t mean much but when you throw in that they ‘are from a different country’ your dog whistle is so loud my bulldog has pricked up her ears and the poor old girl has been dead for 30 years.

BeeGee BeeGee 8:13 am 03 Dec 10

Has anyone asked ACTION if they can put an extra staff member on the KSS buses ramdomly? Mind you it shouldn’t have to resort to that.

Gerry-Built Gerry-Built 6:03 pm 02 Dec 10

georgesgenitals said :

I found out the other day that a very large percentage of parents DON’T pay the voluntary contribution. I am amazed by this. If everyone kicked in, public schools would be better resourced for everyone’s kids.

Unbelievable.

The thing is, most parents didn’t question paying “subject levies” (etc), but as soon as the name changed to “Voluntary Contributions” (along with the required commentary in an accompanying letter), the amount collected dropped to negligible (and when that happened, they stopped teachers being able to look at the books, you know – “privacy” and all that).

Schools rely on that funding, particularly the Elective subjects. The shortfall/gap was never, ever covered by the ACT Government. If you truly believe in a Free Education, pressure the Government to adequately fund Public Education as well… don’t just assume they’ll get the message from your refusal to pay anything.

housebound housebound 4:57 pm 02 Dec 10

trickyxr said :

You people make me sick.. what would you know? … I am not racist but do have a problem with Idiot dogooders… So all go and have a cry and winge to someone who cares because i dont care what you think..

I apologise now for any dogooding and will stop giving you the benefit of the doubt.

trickyxr trickyxr 4:06 pm 02 Dec 10

colourful sydney racing identity said :

trickyxr said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

#29 bigotted poster is a bigot

How so please explain… Piss me off

you
can
not
be
serious

Yes real serious you wierdo, explain how i am a bigot or are you to stupid to do so? The post #29 would describe them as been the bigots not me, so explain to me how my response is a biggoted response of a biggot..
I
am
serious
you
are
weirdo

georgesgenitals georgesgenitals 3:58 pm 02 Dec 10

Kan said :

GG’s quote: I found out the other day that a very large percentage of parents DON’T pay the voluntary contribution. I am amazed by this. If everyone kicked in, public schools would be better resourced for everyone’s kids.

Well, GG, they are not going to pay because certain people believe public schooling should be free for everything including excursions and camps! While I have always paid for everything, others refused to pay for anything. Here I was forking out hundreds of dollars while others cried poor (which some of them weren’t) and the school used funds to pay for their children’s excursions etc. I am not kidding – most excursion notes have ‘voluntary contribution’ instead of ‘cost’ written on the permission notes. Some of these excursions cost only $5 for a bus ride but no, these people refused because anything to do with public schooling has to be free. Not surprised public schooling has such a bad rep with this type of attitude.

I will always pay it, because it’s the right thing to do. If other parents want to be scumbags, that’s up them, but I’d rather be a better role model for my children than that.

georgesgenitals georgesgenitals 3:57 pm 02 Dec 10

trickyxr said :

I can’t write the response that I want to for your post, because it wouldn’t be polite to have in a public forum. … how easy it is to blame the kids from “another country” for all of the trouble…. How strange of their families to stick up for each other… real “aussies” wouldn’t do that??? hmmm..and I thought I was living in Canberra, not Alabama!!

Dont be shy, Idiot, I was telling you about yesterdays fight on the bus and the lock down in the school are realated to same bunch of kids who are from another country But lets not beat around the bush here they are African and are causing all sorts of problems.

Today they have again caused crap on the morning bus and have now thretned to get there cousins to bring knifes

Sounds like a job for the Police.

trickyxr trickyxr 3:44 pm 02 Dec 10

Erg0 said :

housebound: Conversely, labelling a group of “kids from another country” as racist because they’re at odds with the school’s anglo population, as trickyxr did, is equally incorrect.

You people make me sick.. what would you know? These people are racist towards white people so no need to stick up for them they are what they are. Why am i racist or a bigot for purely pointing out what group of kids are causing these problems. They are the African kids, not all of the african kida at the school, but all of the group are africans.
I am not racist but do have a problem with Idiot dogooders… So all go and have a cry and winge to someone who cares because i dont care what you think..

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 3:43 pm 02 Dec 10

trickyxr said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

#29 bigotted poster is a bigot

How so please explain… Piss me off

you
can
not
be
serious

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