Free Schapelle protest

conspiracy my arse.

her team presented evidence. it was rejected as flawed.

based on the case presented to them, she was found guilty.

ignore media spin, focus on facts.

drugs are evil, so are drug traffickers.

Yes, its a conspiracy

What has been to some estent ignored in this case, is that to find Miss Corby innocent the judges would have to find that 4 Indonesian customs officials lied.

Not only that but the whole process of not finger printing, not producing the video even upon public request, amounts to a widespread conspiracy. The judges would not and are not going to do that.

What of the video frmo the airports in Australia? Wiped after the request from the lawyers. Is this fact? Do we know the circumstances?

This case does remind me of the 1995(?) case of middleage Japanese travellers convicted of importing drugs into Australia. Drugs found in luggage, they all denied it, had a plausible story to explain the drugs presence, complained of mis-translation in the arrest and the court case, and ended up in jail.

In cases of drug importation around the world, possession does almost amount to guilt.

If I ever get busted at any Australian airport with say 2Kg of heroin in my bag, I’m just going to keep a straight face and say “Baggage handlers must have put it there”. I fully expect to be waved through with any further questioning.

OMG, Can. unsung hero seems to be making sense.

Why don’t we all just accept the “Umpire’s decision” for the time being… until new material surfaces..which I’m sure it will eventually.

well apprently it was rather leafier than the good gear and yes you can see that on TV.

What, by looking at it on a TV telecast? I don’t need contacts to know…..sorry

My contacts who would know claim that the stuff shown on tv as being found in the body board bag was not the high grade gear of which you speak.

But I can’t claim to be speaking on an area of personal knowledge.

Suffice to say that high grade Australian dope is of significantly higher value on the streets of Kuta or Denpasar than it is on our streets. This was only really well publicised once in the whole argument, in an SMH article, but known for years. The stuff wholly made in Bali is not as highly valued as stuff that is hydroponically nurtured here.

Your inference is most definitely wrong. Now before everyone jumps on the fact that the conditions are ideal in Bali etc etc, it is the quality of the goods that are highly valued, not the quantity.

Bali is a very nice place to visit if you don’t confine yourself to the bogan plains of Kuta. I stayed in a lovely bogan free environment for 7 days (Le Meridien resort at Tanah Lot was beyond the average booners capabilities).

But trust me, Bali is not the Yarralumla nursery of dope growing. The imported stuff is far more highly regarded, another pertinent point lost amongst the irrelevant and inadmissible rhetoric

First graders take drugs FROM Bali, not TO Bali.

But maybe, just maybe, the thick skulls in the boganate are starting to realise that Bali (Or “Equatorial Macquarie Fields” as someone on TSSH put it) is part of a third world country, and isn’t just a cheaper version of Noosa.

I could hardly miss Douglas Wood, but his wasnt a drug matter so the comparison is moot.

I can guarantee the public frenzy would not have been so large for the 45yo in Corby’s position. She was facing criminal sanctions, Wood is not, the comparison being increasingly irrelevant.

You don’t really have a contemporary bent on Indo/Aus relations, particularly as they relate to law enforcement. I do and you’re particularly wrong in that regard

Personally I thought the fact that they refused to fingerprint the bag spoke volumes.

Also, don’t buy in to the hype – Indonesia and Australia are NOT friends. They consider us a threat and we consider them the same. All the aid and stuff is just lip service.

They consider us the enemy, and therefore any Australian is not going to be given a fair go. Unfortunately, that IS fact. (LG wasn’t always a humble public servant you know!)

And as for a 45 year old overweight white guy? VG, did you miss all the concern for Douglas Wood?

Lets see exactly what would have been admissible in the case, according to Australian law.

1/ The fact the stuff was found in her bag
2/ Certain (not all) evidence of her admissions.

Every skerrick of evidence her poorly prepared and amateur team presented was based on hearsay, conjecture, guesswork and, in the case of the Vicotiran prisoner Ford, lies.

To top all of those ‘anti’ arguments off, the case was NOT being tried here, it was being tried in Indonesia. Their country, their rules. Yes their system may be ‘improving, still awful’ but the fact remains that if you roll the dice there, be prepared for the consequences.

I for one think she is guilty. If you wanna play first grade, be prepared for the consequences it may bring.

well put jb

The Herald-Sun have coverage of the protest, and the string of abusive communications the embassy have received.

BTW VG – how much of the prosecution evidence would have been admissable?

The whole case would have been shitcanned here.

Anyway I didn’t know I was required to hold an absolutist position on the Indonesian Legal system. It seem like a silly thing to have.

If I have any position it’s the more nuanced “Improving, still awfull, and I pray I’m never at its mercy”

There are dirty big signs all over Denpasar airport and in the Aussie travel warnings about moving illicit substances overseas. Whether the sentences are manifestly unfair the warnings are clear.

One cannot help but think what the press and public’s reaction to a 45yo overweight male in the same predicament would have been like.

For mine I didn’t see any admissible evidence that would have resolved her. Anything else outside that is rhetoric. Sure we may all see the sentence as excessive but it’s not our system to criticise

I hate sunshine and I don’t like the indonesian system. On appeal, he got what? 3 years? Something absurd.

The Australian legal system is also a joke, but that’s not what the argument is about. I never said “only the Australian system knows best”.

Many people have missed the acute possibility that she is in fact guilty of what has been alleged. before people starting taking a benevolent attitude (i.e. only Australia’s system knows best) to the other judicial syatem in our area perhaps they should consider whether the Court here was right on the admissible evidence presented to it.

People are either for or against the Indonesian system, they can’t be ‘sunshine friends’

It’s certainly a curious argument that agreement with one verdict represents a validation of all other verdicts, for all time.

No one protested him getting the death penalty because he killed people.

Have you ever been in an Indonesian court? Justice is not a part of their system.

However, at the same time, rallying outside any embassy or consulate is pointelss. Their country, their rules. Personally, I think it is absurd and appalling, but the Indonesian legal system won’t change its mind because of what I think. Or what any of you think either.

The expression “Cheese it the cops!” is believed to have originated in gangland Chicago prior to World War 1, and was used by later “notables” such as George ‘Bugs’ Moran, Dion O’Banion (1892-1924), Hymie Weiss (1898-1926),and ‘Machine Gun’ Jack McGurn.
Hymie Weiss is credited with coining the phrase ” A one way ride” in 1921.
By the mid 1920’s, the use of the expression “Cheese it the cops” ( or just “Cheese it” ) had become widespread amongst petty crooks and gangland members, not only in Chicago, but in New York and Detroit as well. The expression generally meant “Run for it, the cops are here”, or “Quit your (illegal) activity, the cops are on the way”.
By the 1930’s, the expression had spread to most American States, but by the 1950’s its use started to wane, and by the mid 1960’s it had all but disappeared.
The expression has recently been ‘resurrected’in some popular television programs such as “Futurama”.

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Morbo Demands More Futurama References!

K’s angry mob component could, in the right light, be taken to be a Bender reference

“Cheese it” means run. Bender from futurama uses it.

Another unsung post that makes absolutely no sense. Cheese it???

Cheese it ! Here come the cops !!

Talk about mob rule, I wouldn’t have thought the Greens would be so stupid and popularist.

No one complained about the Indonesian system of justice when Amrosi (one of the Bali bombers) got sentenced to death.

From what I have gleaned there was no hard evidence of her innocence and a lot of her guilt. That, in most courts, means the burden of proof is satisfied

Not so sure this will be help or hindrance… In any case, I have been told she has seven days to appeal and take it to the supreme court. Failing that she can try the super supreme court, however I think this story has too much ham already… Did anyone catch Channel 9’s disgusting “Live Coverage”?