VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

DMD, you missed the joke… Never mind, I still think you’re a top chick!

Oh…oh ha ha ha. You know, the funniest thing about this is that I don’t ride a horse around the countryside and I’m actually a guy! *eyes bulging* The comedy!

You should pen sitcoms.

DMD, you missed the joke… Never mind, I still think you’re a top chick!

Not all APS get it either now that each department has different HR rules and payrates etc.

The ones that get 2 weeks tend to be the less desirable depts like Tax and Defence. They have to offer something to get people to work there.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Why don’t you tell us their motivation DMD, since you’re obviously their appointed spokesperson. I don’t really know how you fit it all in, what with having to ride around the countryside righting wrongs all day.

I kind of thought their motivation might have been to have the same rights as everyone else in the community? Heavy concept, I know.

sepi said :

Defactos do get parental leave – up to two weeks per birth for most APS agencies.

well, that is great if you are in the APS, bit of a stinker for the rest of us though…

Why don’t you tell us their motivation DMD, since you’re obviously their appointed spokesperson. I don’t really know how you fit it all in, what with having to ride around the countryside righting wrongs all day.

Mælinar – *spoiler alert* I’ve seen S04E13 said :

So… with the continued erosion of ‘benefits’ for heteros only, does this mean the homos are going to shut up about the civil union issue ?

I think not, but thats because I’m severely pessimistic of their true motivation.

**DISCLAIMER**
I’m talking about a community issue, not an individual one. I’m more than happy that certain one-off relationships are doing well, but your example is not entirely representative of the larger group.

And what’s their true motivation, Maelinar? Which long and convoluted website full of hand-drawn diagrams must I go to?

Defactos do get parental leave – up to two weeks per birth for most APS agencies.

So… with the continued erosion of ‘benefits’ for heteros only, does this mean the homos are going to shut up about the civil union issue ?

I think not, but thats because I’m severely pessimistic of their true motivation.

**DISCLAIMER**
I’m talking about a community issue, not an individual one. I’m more than happy that certain one-off relationships are doing well, but your example is not entirely representative of the larger group.

I think the first sentence says it all…

It would be hard to argue with this, and in fact it should be broadened as per peterh’s comment above.

agreed. But, if the parent’s leave amendment is to be of benefit to the community, it should be broadened to emcompass all forms of parents, including de facto. It is about the children, but the parents may not be a typical relationship, gay or straight.

aka carers leave imo

your last sentence says it all JB.

I agree wholeheartedly. I won’t go in to my usual views about if gay parenting is right or wrong – but the children deserve the support regardless of the parental choices.

your last sentence says it all JB. anyone who complains about this legislation has to be a straight out hater of children, because the leave is granted to the parents of a child which is already in existence. the objective of the legislation is directed at the child – this might be a stretch for some people’s brains to comprehend though.

in other words you’d have to be extremely mean-spirited to deny that child proper care and attention in its first days on this planet just because you don’t think gays should have children (and of course it goes without saying that you are absolutely not a bigot for saying that or having that opinion either).