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GM corn comes to Canberra

By johnboy - 6 October 2008 32

The Canberra Times reports that the CSIRO is planning to grow genetically modified corn for research purposes here in Canberra.

This will upset some of you, but I doubt it’s really going to make much difference in the bigger scheme of things beyond whatever good comes of the research.

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GM corn comes to Canberra
PsydFX 7:58 pm 06 Oct 08

Fair call, it’s supposed to like that though, the basic idea behind it is instead of calling things exactly like they are, which would result in them being sued for defamation, they substitute the defamation with colourful language.

dexi 6:44 pm 06 Oct 08

No I cant watch him. The way he said shut the f###up, put me off for some reason. Im good for summaries. I don’t doubt hes got good things to say. But he put me off with the last line. Maybe down the track Ill try again.

Goes to show how easy it is to lose a message in aggressive acts.

PsydFX 6:14 pm 06 Oct 08

dexi said :

Regarding the abovementionted youtube clip, I rarely pay any attention to people who have to use the F word to get their point across. Sounds like another loud American that believes all the world’s problems would be solved if it wasn’t for the Greenies-bleeding heart-loony-lefties asking questions. Never let the facts get in the way of a buck or a good story.

Maybe you should watch more Penn and Teller BS before passing judgement, it is actually quite interesting. Sure it does bash Greenpeace a bit, but understandably so – they showed an interview with the the co-creator of Greenpeace who quit because Greenpeace lost track of their true purpose and spent all their time being anti-capitalist.

Anyway, back to GM; even if people dont like the idea of eating GM products, surely they can see the benifit of GM Crops for use in Biomass Fuels, Textiles, and all that other stuff we use plants for.

dexi 6:14 pm 06 Oct 08

Sorry Kiron22 for connecting you with any campaign. I didnt look beyond my own preconceived idea of Greenpeace being a non violent, direct action organisation, above the direct destruction of property. They have pulled up crops more than once in the UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2001/oct/17/activists.gmcrops

A quick search has found people all over the world doing the same in protest.

Its a shame. If you destroy or damage anything in a protest it detracts from the issue you are trying to raise. The issue becomes the destruction not what you are there to protest against.

imhotep 5:54 pm 06 Oct 08

dexi said :

A trial by CSIRO in Canberra of GM corn is a good idea. Right place, right organisation. A trial of corn in the middle of corn producing farms, by corporate scientists would not.

I agree. I would be a lot more comfortable about GM foods if not for the frenetic spriuking of the technology by companies like Monsanto, whose principal aim is, naturally, profit.

That said, there is no doubt that the introduction of GM cotton to Australia has dramatically reduced pesticide use in that industry. However, putting GM more broadly into the food chain is a much larger step, requiring much more caution.

dexi 5:31 pm 06 Oct 08

Regarding the abovementionted youtube clip, I rarely pay any attention to people who have to use the F word to get their point across. Sounds like another loud American that believes all the world’s problems would be solved if it wasn’t for the Greenies-bleeding heart-loony-lefties asking questions. Never let the facts get in the way of a buck or a good story.

There are lots of questions with GM foods. Most of the answers so far are from corporate companies that stand to make billions from GM. They don’t necessarily have the best interests of producers and consumers at heart. There is a campaign of discreditation going on both ways.

Kiron maybe you are part of this campaign. Would you would like to name the locations of the numerous crops that Greenpeace has destroyed? Maybe you might like to look past the glossy corporate brochures and swearing loud mouths.

The jury is still out on the long term effects of GM crops. It would be a mistake to commit to the technology until we have a better idea of its benefits or otherwise. A trial by CSIRO in Canberra of GM corn is a good idea. Right place, right organisation. A trial of corn in the middle of corn producing farms, by corporate scientists would not. Full scale planting in the third world smacks of a grand experiment not a way to feed the starving.

Wide Boy Jake 5:15 pm 06 Oct 08

Why would anybody be upset about it? We have a crippling drought with food shortages and anything which helps alleviate that can only be applauded. The only people who would object are pea brained greenies (is there any other kind?) and selfish opportunists like the ones who blocked the power station.

S4anta 5:05 pm 06 Oct 08

I would be more concerned with what the effects are of long term exposure to petro-chemicals such as those that are found in hair shampoo, rather than GM foods.

Unbeliever 3:19 pm 06 Oct 08

Kiron, although you’ve only named Greenpeace in your comments, I’m assuming you’re not seriously proposing that Greenpeace is mainly responsible for famine and starvation in these African countries!?

The myth of ‘GM foods’ saving/feeding the (3rd) world is just that. Socio-political and economic factors which limits/prevents sustainable agriculture in these countries have nothing at all to do with disease/pesticide/herbicide resistance (or any other GM traits) in food crops.

Also, for a community who shares its home with the national regulator for GM crops (here in Canberra), we sure have little idea of what the GM trials mean or what regulations are in place to control these trials. Even the ‘friends of the earth’ woman in the article understands that with no local corn cropping, this proposed trial is harmless.

sepi 3:07 pm 06 Oct 08

I just don’t understend the rush to take this irreversible step.

I don’t want to eat GM stuff, and once it is out there there will be no way of telling.

I feel that in a democracy I should have some way of choosing.

miz 2:18 pm 06 Oct 08

No one objects to hybridisation, it’s the inserting of genetic material from other organisms that is problematic to me. This would never happen in nature. See CSIRO fact sheet
http://www.csiro.au/resources/WhatIsGM.html

and general info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_organism

The problems include, where are the regulatory limits?
and how are these foodstuffs going to affect a person or animal who consumes them? For example, corn resistant to the pesticide roundup is likely to have been sprayed with several doses of roundup as part of the agricultural weed elimination program, whereas a non-resistant variety would die if sprayed therefore remains roundup free.

Which would you choose to eat – and are we going to be provided with information so we CAN choose?

PM 2:10 pm 06 Oct 08

S4anta, do they have GM cash crops yet??

S4anta 2:02 pm 06 Oct 08

‘rust free wheat’ – has been here since early 1800’s. GM foods is the next step in humanitys experiment with ensuring that anything it grows is as resistent as possible to disease and the like.

Get on, get over it.

sepi 1:47 pm 06 Oct 08

To me GM corn is much like Cane Toads – some people think it is a good idea, some people don’t, but once it is introduced you can never get rid of it.

So if it turns out to be a disaster in a decade, tough luck, we are stuck with it forever more.

And then there is the fact that big business owns it, and can charge farmers for growing it, even if it in fact infested their non-GM crops, and they didn’t even want it there.

Kiron22 12:48 pm 06 Oct 08

I never actually understood what people have against GM food, you do know the guy who invented it got a nobel peace prize for saving the lives of 1 billion people?, Greenpeace told african nations that GM food was poisoned so they turned away GM food aid from other countries, allowing people to starve, also Greenpeace have destoyed numerous GM food crops that were testing what effect GM foods actually have on the enviroment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIvNopv9Pa8
P&T:BS take on GM foods.

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