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Government hates your family. More Coe Revelations

By johnboy - 11 November 2011 41

The Liberals Alistair Coe is leaping upon a 2010 Government study which he believes shows that Canberra is of the car, for the car, and ever to be devoted to the car.

A buried government-commissioned report into the ACT’s parking supply has confirmed Canberra’s parking situation disadvantages families.

“ACT Labor refuses to acknowledge that Canberra was built for the car and that needs to be met with proper planning,” ACT Shadow Transport Services Minister Coe said today.

“For many Canberra families, catching a bus is not an option. ACTION is unreliable, expensive, and simply not viable when you have children to drop off at different locations.

“But ACT Labor is ignoring the needs of Canberra families and instead continues to raise the price of parking in a revenue-raising effort to “dissuade” people from driving.

It is true that if one has utterly failed to organise any aspect of one’s life then vast amounts of driving and parking is required to overcome that.

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Government hates your family. More Coe Revelations
madamcholet 12:52 pm 11 Nov 11

“It is true that if one has utterly failed to organise any aspect of one’s life then vast amounts of driving and parking is required to overcome that.”

Given that this statement comes after a piece that talked about families, one can only assume that it is aimed at people in these situations.

I’m not convinced the bus I bother to get a couple of times a week on my non childcare drop off days is bursting at the seams with singles/couples with no kids. You know what, they are all driving their nice shiny fast cars into our car parks because I do see them on the days I am doing the child care drop offs.

Just what can be done about the problem is beyond me though. Was actually thinking this morning about the fact that I pay a whole days parking fees even though I leave early – and thh fact that changing it to a true pay per hour system so you get what you actually pay for, would not cause any stampeding into the carparks by those who currently take the bus to try to keep costs down.

Maybe they shoudl just face facts that the bus service will have to be forever subsidised in order to make it viable.

poetix 12:37 pm 11 Nov 11

Jim Jones said :

EvanJames said :

Thank god I’m single… if I was a family I might become poor and disadvantaged, but apparently this only happens to families.

Single people are the devil’s work!!!

Apart from politicians saying the word ‘family’ as often as possible, I also dislike women who say ‘speaking as a Mum’ all the time, as if their brain has been totally subsumed by their…let’s say womb.

And I’m speaking as a Mum when I say that.

PantsMan 12:37 pm 11 Nov 11

Jim Jones said :

EvanJames said :

Thank god I’m single… if I was a family I might become poor and disadvantaged, but apparently this only happens to families.

Single people are the devil’s work!!!

It is PLAINLY UN-AUSTRALIAN to be single, financially responsible, not having spawn, not budging off the government, and not sitting around until the price of one’s house goes up.

zippyzippy 12:27 pm 11 Nov 11

“Buried report” = “one I didn’t notice until now (and even then only picked out one out of context paragraph)”

Jim Jones 12:27 pm 11 Nov 11

EvanJames said :

Thank god I’m single… if I was a family I might become poor and disadvantaged, but apparently this only happens to families.

Single people are the devil’s work!!!

EvanJames 12:14 pm 11 Nov 11

Thank god I’m single… if I was a family I might become poor and disadvantaged, but apparently this only happens to families.

Thoroughly Smashed 12:02 pm 11 Nov 11

Blimey, he does keep on giving doesn’t he.

Mysteryman 11:44 am 11 Nov 11

“It is true that if one has utterly failed to organise any aspect of one’s life then vast amounts of driving and parking is required to overcome that.”

I that comment shows a lack of understanding concerning the problem with the bus system in the ACT.

“For many Canberra families, catching a bus is not an option. ACTION is unreliable, expensive, and simply not viable when you have children to drop off at different locations”.

That comment is spot on. Even for many of those without family members to worry about, ACTION is still unreliable and simply not viable. I can drive to work in 20 minutes during peak hour, or I can spend 15 mins walking to a bus stop, and then another 40 minutes riding 1 (or 2) buses to work. And that is assuming that the bus is running on time. Let’s see… 40 mins in a car total travel time, or 1 hour and 50 minutes using ACTION.

I’d love to use more public transport if it were convenient. But I’m not about to sacrifice time and convenience to make the Greens and ACT Labor feel warm and fuzzy.

KB1971 11:32 am 11 Nov 11

dtc said :

So does Coe commend and support the rest of the report – from which he has extracted that minor comment?

Given that the main thrust of the report (well, as set out in the CT) is that parking charges are far too low and the govt should be charging $28 per day (and that parking is, in general, underutilised).

Basing a whole complaint on a minor part of a report is a little dangerous

Too true. it will be interesting to see how Mr Coe “fixes” ACTION.

While I am not enamoured with Labour I am not convinced to go Libs either.

harvyk1 11:25 am 11 Nov 11

Part of the problem is there is no one real CBD in Canberra. We have scattered business districts all over Canberra. Changing jobs means more than likely you will move from working in the city to working in Tuggeranong, or worse out at the airport (thanks Mr Snow).

If they want Canberra to have a good public transport system then they need to knock down virtually all office space outside the city and build a few highrises in the CBD and concentrate all industrial development in one area (considering there is right now 3 different industrial areas in Canberra), that way peoples commuting will be point to point.

RedDogInCan 11:10 am 11 Nov 11

“It is true that if one has utterly failed to organise any aspect of one’s life then vast amounts of driving and parking is required to overcome that.”

It is true that if one has utterly failed to find a partner and start a family then they should refrain from commenting on things they have no experience about.

dtc 11:09 am 11 Nov 11

So does Coe commend and support the rest of the report – from which he has extracted that minor comment?

Given that the main thrust of the report (well, as set out in the CT) is that parking charges are far too low and the govt should be charging $28 per day (and that parking is, in general, underutilised).

Basing a whole complaint on a minor part of a report is a little dangerous

puggy 11:09 am 11 Nov 11

harvyk1 said :

It is also true that I don’t really want to spend 1.5 hours in the morning and again in the afternoon getting to \ from work, and that is assuming that bus timings all line up nicely. Where as if I drive I can do the trip to \ from work in about 20 to 25 minutes….

…it needs to be compariable timings to driving, and the trick there is to make public transport better, not removing cars as an option.

It’s true that ACTION is not for everyone, but it is certainly a viable option for more people than can be bothered working out the timetable. And the comparison to driving has to be door to desk. For myself, the drive may be 30 minutes in peak time, but I if want free parking to keep the cost comparable, that’s another 10 minute walk to the building. The bus will be 50 minutes tops. On the occasions that I have to go to Kambah after work, the 700 series “xpresso” buses get me there in 20 minutes flat.

I really don’t think ACTION buses can get any better. The blue and red rapid introduced the high-frequency buses on trunk lines that everyone seems to demand and you can’t service the suburban streets any better than they are now. The full network map gives you a good idea of where it’s all at and it’s taken me most places I need to go.

The thing that gets me is how much traffic drops of during school holidays. Sure, some may be because people take leave to be at home with the kids, but a lot seems to be traffic from ferrying kids to far off schools. I don’t know why (a) you can’t send kids to closer schools (b) get them to catch the bus. I was in Year 1 and catching 4 public buses a day alone. I’d then get home and catch the bus with mum to swimming lessons and back. This was in the 80’s. The bus system is much better now (although many of the buses are exactly the same!).

allyroger 11:06 am 11 Nov 11

“It is true that if one has utterly failed to organise any aspect of one’s life then vast amounts of driving and parking is required to overcome that.”

To make that comment is just sheer ignorance and a lack of understanding about family life in Canberra. I have to live in the extreme south as that is where we can afford, we both have to work to pay the overpriced mortgage, the daycare centre is in Woden (they all have waiting lists) and we work at the airport and downtown. And just what happens if our child gets sick? I should jump on 3 or 4 buses to get home/ doctor? The car is here to stay, don’t hate it but perhaps invest in cleaner technologies such as hydrogen?

harvyk1 10:40 am 11 Nov 11

“It is true that if one has utterly failed to organise any aspect of one’s life then vast amounts of driving and parking is required to overcome that.”

It is also true that I don’t really want to spend 1.5 hours in the morning and again in the afternoon getting to \ from work, and that is assuming that bus timings all line up nicely. Where as if I drive I can do the trip to \ from work in about 20 to 25 minutes.

To extract the time difference over a week buses would add on 10 extra hours to my commuting time per week. For public transport to be a realistic option, it needs to be compariable timings to driving, and the trick there is to make public transport better, not removing cars as an option.

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