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Greens move on energy poverty

By johnboy 4 February 2011 27

In a suprising move the Greens’ Shane Rattenbury is banging the drum on “energy poverty”:

New figures obtained by the Greens reveal that between 2004 and 2010, while the average household electricity and gas costs increased from $993 to $1506, the Energy Concession Rebate for low income households increased by a measly $5.86.

Greens Spokesperson for Energy, Shane Rattenbury, says the ACT Government has failed to support those most vulnerable to energy price increases in the ACT community.

“The Government has failed struggling households by not increasing the energy Concession Rebate to a level that mirrors energy prices rises,” said Mr. Rattenbury.

In response to a Question on Notice, Minister Joy Burch provided figures showing that between 2004 and 2010, average household electricity and gas costs skyrocketed from $993 to $1506, but the Energy Concession Rebate increased by just $5.86.

“That a massive 50% increase in bills, but the government increased the support payment by only 3% over the same period.

Isn’t price signalling to reduce consumption rather a key part of Green policy?

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monomania 4:02 pm 07 Feb 11

Gungahlin Al said :

A pretty rational and unoffensive debate this one. Would that it were always so…

There is one very simple reality here – PV on your roof generates the greatest energy rate at precisely when it is most needed, and if not for the rapid roll-out of domestic PV thanks to the FIT, we would need a lot more work done to the grid and new generation capacity (= new gas-powered generator plant) – and that would cost a lot more.

The only reason the FIT currently costs little is because little solar electricity is currently being produced. It will be a different matter when 30MW of micro and mini solar generators on roofs and 30MW rising to 210MW of solar farms have to be paid for.

It might be different in Brisbane but Canberra’s peak electricity use in winter is as great as that of summer and occurs when little or no solar electricity is being produced.

This is just one of the irrational reasons proponents of solar electricity use to justify why others should pay through a FIT for their uneconomic micro-generators.

JustThinking 5:42 pm 04 Feb 11

wildturkeycanoe said :

The reason our energy bills have skyrocketed is due to the fact apart from price rises is that older styles of heating have been pretty much outlawed. Back in the 70’s we had wood fires to heat our houses. They worked, were cheap to run and also gave us something to watch apart from the TV. We had a wood fire whilst living in N.S.W over a year ago and a trailer load of redgum got the house “toasty” for about $100/month. In our 5 star brand new house in the suburbs here, it cost $30 supply charge and $5/day totalling $180 for a gas wall furnace. That wasn’t even turned on for more than 8 hours a day and didn’t warm half the house. Those “environmentally friendly” forms of heating such as natural gas, slab and space heating and reverse cycle are much more expensive so it doesn’t take a genius to see why were all suffering huge $1000-$2000 per quarter electricity bills. But don’t worry – we’re saving the planet!!!

Agree..
When I moved back here I got the gas heating connected. No more chopping wood how wonderful..BUT the charges were amazing. $348 first bill THEN $460 second bill….I even got a bill directed to “house owner” years after the gas was dissconnected!??!!!!!!
Our gas heater is in the loungeroom of a long house,,,,,so it only heats the loungeroom and part of the kitchen. Bedrooms were always freezing.
So I cut the gas and bought 2 electricity run heaters,,,,,one for the loungeroom and one for hallway near bedrooms. All rooms are comfortable at less than 1/2 the cost of gas.

wildturkeycanoe 5:23 pm 04 Feb 11

The reason our energy bills have skyrocketed is due to the fact apart from price rises is that older styles of heating have been pretty much outlawed. Back in the 70’s we had wood fires to heat our houses. They worked, were cheap to run and also gave us something to watch apart from the TV. We had a wood fire whilst living in N.S.W over a year ago and a trailer load of redgum got the house “toasty” for about $100/month. In our 5 star brand new house in the suburbs here, it cost $30 supply charge and $5/day totalling $180 for a gas wall furnace. That wasn’t even turned on for more than 8 hours a day and didn’t warm half the house. Those “environmentally friendly” forms of heating such as natural gas, slab and space heating and reverse cycle are much more expensive so it doesn’t take a genius to see why were all suffering huge $1000-$2000 per quarter electricity bills. But don’t worry – we’re saving the planet!!!

GottaLoveCanberra 5:06 pm 04 Feb 11

johnboy said :

I’ve had it pointed out to me that the Greens’ policy paper is quite clear on this:

8. reviewing ActewAGL tariff structures to provide a clear price incentive to reduce energy use

I’m not sure how much clearer it can get?

http://www.actewagl.com.au/prices/home/ACT/elec.aspx

merlin bodega 2:57 pm 04 Feb 11

Price signals work very well in a world where people are infinitely flexible to change their consumption habits. The poorer people have little flexibility to change their choices in the short term and many choices like installing PV’s are for all practical purposes out of reach; more so since they are less likely to be home owners. Expecting them to respond to price signals in the same way as a more well off person is unfair. The Greens have ironically allowed the poor to participate in the ACT’s high buy in rate for micro generated electricity by pushing up their energy bills by an estimated $100 per year. That the Labor Party presided over this is a disgrace.

Pommy bastard 2:49 pm 04 Feb 11

Well, the greenies should get “the poor” to work on environmental projects, such as planting trees, and collecting tin cans for recycling, to offset the carbon production of their increased energy usage, which we will pay for out of our taxes. They could transport them about in lentil powered eco SUV’s, and have facilitators to enable group cohesion, and vegetarian…Arrrghh…bloody Greenies…bloody, bloody greeny green ideas aaargh.. kill me now….

johnboy 2:36 pm 04 Feb 11

Didn’t survive

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