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Greens want more social justice in traffic fines

By johnboy - 22 February 2012 45

The Greens’ Amanda Bresnan has announced she’s going to try and legislate more payment options for the badly driving poor:

Greens Transport Spokesperson, Amanda Bresnan MLA, said that the current system of traffic fine administration was resulting in harsh and unjust outcomes for Canberra’s most vulnerable individuals and families.

“It has been described as a ‘sledgehammer approach’, and the fact is that it is ruining people’s lives,” said Ms Bresnan.

“The current system provides very limited payment options. Failure to pay a traffic fine in the time limit results in automatic licence suspension. For people who are on a low income or suffering from other disadvantage, the spiralling impacts of this can be devastating.

“Disadvantaged and vulnerable people often rely on their drivers licence to access employment, income, support, and housing. Once their licence is fine suspended, it can be virtually impossible to repay the fine and reobtain the licence.

“The reality is that in Canberra we have people who are losing their employment, their income and their housing as a result of an inflexible traffic fine system.

“The Greens’ legislation makes sensible amendments to make the system more fair and flexible, with new payment options and opportunities for provisional reinstatement of fine-suspended licences while fines are being paid.

I was not expecting the Greens to be entrenching the idea that driving is a right.

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Greens want more social justice in traffic fines
EvanJames 12:59 pm 22 Feb 12

p1 said :

Maybe the gov should give up with the idea that speeding fines are punishment, and admit they are just a fee to be paid if you want to drive a little fast, that way I can salary package it and save some tax….

Gold! And with more than a kernal of truth in it.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back 12:42 pm 22 Feb 12

The Greens are unbelievable. First wanting to make everyone’s rent more expensive and now this. I really wonder what the hell these people are thinking.

It’s a shame, really, because having a pro-environment party to keep other parties balanced is a good thing. It just seems that come up with some of the silliest ideas.

devils_advocate 12:38 pm 22 Feb 12

policyfail is the recurring theme of the Greens.

I’m not claiming I agree with all or even most of the policies of the major parties. But it seems that whenever there is a truly retarded suggestion, it has come from the Greens.

Mysteryman 12:32 pm 22 Feb 12

Deref said :

““It has been described as a ‘sledgehammer approach’, and the fact is that it is ruining people’s lives,” said Ms Bresnan.”

No. What’s “ruining people’s lives” is their driving.

I usually disagree with everything you post, but I completely agree with this. If they can’t afford the fine then they shouldn’t have broken the law. Driving is a privilege, not a right.

Primal 12:30 pm 22 Feb 12

“The reality is that in Canberra we have people who are losing their employment, their income and their housing as a result of… their own crap driving.”

There we go. Much better.

Deref 12:14 pm 22 Feb 12

““It has been described as a ‘sledgehammer approach’, and the fact is that it is ruining people’s lives,” said Ms Bresnan.”

No. What’s “ruining people’s lives” is their driving.

Dilandach 12:06 pm 22 Feb 12

Around the corner from my place is what looks like a housing commission house. I’ve seen up to 4 cars parked on the lawn at the same time and not a single one of them has a registration plate. Mysteriously cars appear or disappear through the week, not moved around the back but driven somewhere, repeatedly. When picking up my kids from school I saw one of the cars, no rego plates, no rego stickers. Nothing. My point is, people like this aren’t likely to have insurance either so what is a suspended license going to do to them? They’ll just keep driving anyway.

Are the greens going to pay for those who have cars damaged by those who disregard the law because its “too hard” or “can’t afford it”?

I’ve been debating whether to give a tip to the cops on these multiple cars driving around with no plates. It hasn’t been a few days or a week but months and its quite obvious they drive the cars regularly.

p1 12:04 pm 22 Feb 12

While I can see many issues of social justice in the way that transport (and the punishments of breaking the rules surrounding it) are distributed in the ACT (and everywhere else), isn’t “giving people more options to pay their fines” another way of saying make it easier? Cause when you are talking about a punishment, it is supposed to hurt. Other wise it doesn’t actually punish.

Maybe the gov should give up with the idea that speeding fines are punishment, and admit they are just a fee to be paid if you want to drive a little fast, that way I can salary package it and save some tax….

NoImRight 11:58 am 22 Feb 12

johnboy said :

Ahh, so those with the best tax lawyers can get out of fines too?

No system is perfect. Or did I miss where you suggested one?

buzz819 11:53 am 22 Feb 12

Ummm… There is already a chance for them to write into the ACT Chief Police Officer to ask for an extension to pay for the ticket, to which they normally get 6 – 9 months to pay it off?

What more do they want??

johnboy 11:52 am 22 Feb 12

Ahh, so those with the best tax lawyers can get out of fines too?

EvanJames 11:52 am 22 Feb 12

The poor disadvantaged, victims of everyone else.

How do you get traffic fines? Oh yes, that’s right, you break a rule. It’s generally accepted that the rules are there for a reason, and if there aren’t consequences for breaking the rule, people will break the rules. And we have accepted that we need the rules. Rinse and repeat.

This is just silly.

NoImRight 11:51 am 22 Feb 12

Cant believe Im saying this but….maybe we could do like some European countries? Fines as a % of income.

johnboy 11:46 am 22 Feb 12

At the same time the idea that if you’re rich you can drive as badly as you like without much consequence does seem problematic too.

(Although isn’t that a case for balancing demerits with fines?)

Rollersk8r 11:43 am 22 Feb 12

So once again, a different set of rules for a tiny minority, which this time aims to keep bad drivers on the road longer?

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