Have Your Say in Belconnen Town Centre parking planning

Damien Haas 11 September 2013 32

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The Belconnen Community Council are conducting a survey to determine actual parking requirements in the Belconnen Town Centre.

We are holding a public meeting to begin our project to improve parking in Belconnen on Tuesday Sep 17th at Margaret Timpson park at 12.30PM. Look for the silver sculpture on the corner of Chandler St and Benjamin Way.

We are also conducting a survey to find out what future parking requirements are required. Please take our survey!

We want to hear from you if you live or work in Belconnen.


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damien haas damien haas 12:10 pm 15 Oct 13

The Belconnen parking issue will be discussed at tonights public forum of the BCC. It is on at 7.30PM at the Community Room above the Belconnen library.

Thanks to the over 200 people that have responded to the survey.

Aeek Aeek 7:55 pm 17 Sep 13

davo101 said :

Yes that was a particularly bright idea to replace the old-school bike parking with posts that are each fixed to a single paving stone.

The parking outside the Benjamin Way entrance is particularly poor. Two of those posts and one’s paver is loose Fortunately there is a set of U racks across the road from the corner entrance just along.

maxblues maxblues 6:09 pm 17 Sep 13

Deref said :

poetix said :

Deref said :

poetix said :

People dine in Belconnen?

Oh yes, Some of the best Asian restaurants in Canberra are in Belco.

I didn’t know, and it’s too far for a tipsy (bike-path) bike ride, as opposed to Dickson. What are the names of these restaurants?

Prince Palace is very good and the place next door (Too Yummy IIRC) is amazing! Monkey Magic’s good and across the road and upstairs there’s a Burmese place that’s absolutely delightful. Sorry to be so vague on the names. 🙁 But they’re all well worth the trip.

Monkey Magic has changed ownership and is now known as Hong Fa’s Palace…family run and the food seems very fresh. Across the road on the corner of Luxton & Josephson Streets is Phnom Penh Cambodian restaurant (not Burmese). Owner/chef, Sambat makes a wicked laksa. In the same block is Taj Agra Indian, well patronised and Canberra Cellars who have the best value Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc (under $6). Best of all there is a free car park outside Taj Agra/Phnom Penh/Canberra Cellars.

gazket gazket 3:21 pm 17 Sep 13

Aeek said :

gasman said :

Think outside the square, make Belco a city leader in alternative transport, and decrease the reliance on cars.

where can I park my horse

davo101 davo101 2:56 pm 17 Sep 13

gasman said :

At present, there is no safe way (continuous bike lane or bike path) to get from where I live to either Belco mall, Belco markets, CISAC or any of the Belco offices. I can get there by riding on footpaths, but that is an inadequate solution.

This is not just a Belconnen problem, in every other town centre the cycle facilities go as far the edge and then stop. They’re spending a bomb on fixing the problem around Civic but who knows how long it’ll take to do something at the others.

gasman said :

Belco mall has 3 sets of 5 bike parking racks, 4 of which have been vandalised.

Yes that was a particularly bright idea to replace the old-school bike parking with posts that are each fixed to a single paving stone.

Aeek Aeek 2:52 pm 17 Sep 13

gasman said :

Think outside the square, make Belco a city leader in alternative transport, and decrease the reliance on cars.

Thinking outside the box reminds me, that box has to go. The view from the lakeshore of the mall monolith is horrible. Westfield Mall needs to be demolished.

damien haas damien haas 2:07 pm 17 Sep 13

gasman said :

damien haas said :

The survey is going very well, over 100 responses so far.

Cyclists have been active on the survey, and we are not excluding their ‘rights’.
!

Its not so much about cyclists ‘rights’ (why did you put it ‘rights’ in inverted commas, by the way?).

Its more about thinking differently. By improving cycling infrastructure (which is comparatively inexpensive), you can reduce the need for extra car parking (comparatively expensive).

You can fit 100 bikes into 10 car parking spaces.

At present, there is no safe way (continuous bike lane or bike path) to get from where I live to either Belco mall, Belco markets, CISAC or any of the Belco offices. I can get there by riding on footpaths, but that is an inadequate solution. Ideally, I would like to ride my Danish cargo bike to do my shopping, but that is just not possible.

Belco mall has 3 sets of 5 bike parking racks, 4 of which have been vandalised.

By improving car access to any place, all that will happen is there will be more cars, until the increased capacity is also used. Back to original problem.

Think outside the square, make Belco a city leader in alternative transport, and decrease the reliance on cars.

We can take that feedback on board. Please fill out the survey and make that comment.

The public meeting went reasonably well considering it rained non-stop! We relocated to the walkway and attracted passing traffic. Yvette Berry MLA also attended and is keen to see the results of the survey.

gasman gasman 12:06 pm 17 Sep 13

damien haas said :

The survey is going very well, over 100 responses so far.

Cyclists have been active on the survey, and we are not excluding their ‘rights’.
!

Its not so much about cyclists ‘rights’ (why did you put it ‘rights’ in inverted commas, by the way?).

Its more about thinking differently. By improving cycling infrastructure (which is comparatively inexpensive), you can reduce the need for extra car parking (comparatively expensive).

You can fit 100 bikes into 10 car parking spaces.

At present, there is no safe way (continuous bike lane or bike path) to get from where I live to either Belco mall, Belco markets, CISAC or any of the Belco offices. I can get there by riding on footpaths, but that is an inadequate solution. Ideally, I would like to ride my Danish cargo bike to do my shopping, but that is just not possible.

Belco mall has 3 sets of 5 bike parking racks, 4 of which have been vandalised.

By improving car access to any place, all that will happen is there will be more cars, until the increased capacity is also used. Back to original problem.

Think outside the square, make Belco a city leader in alternative transport, and decrease the reliance on cars.

damien haas damien haas 11:32 am 17 Sep 13

i just had a quick look at the survey – 142 responses.

35% of survey respondents park for 1-2 hours
42% park all day

damien haas damien haas 11:16 am 17 Sep 13

The survey is going very well, over 100 responses so far.

We will have large maps at the meeting today where you can illustrate your thoughts (concerning parking).

Cyclists have been active on the survey, and we are not excluding their ‘rights’.

The meeting is on today in glorious sunshine! Bring your lunch and listen to earnest community activists!

CicsoKid CicsoKid 5:18 pm 12 Sep 13

gazket said :

damien haas said :

gazket said :

7. How many people (apart from the driver) normally drive to work with you when you park at work?)

There is no 0 option.

You can skip the question if it doesnt apply.

but when I get out of the car it doesn’t drive back home by it’s self. I park it in Belco town centre

Ergo you now can not tell the total number of cars parked at work each day in the Belco town centre. The large majority of cars i see on the roads have just the one person in them, most presumably going to work and parking in this area, but not counted in your survey.

Waste of time filling it in don’t you think…

gazket gazket 3:35 pm 12 Sep 13

damien haas said :

gazket said :

7. How many people (apart from the driver) normally drive to work with you when you park at work?)

There is no 0 option.

You can skip the question if it doesnt apply.

but when I get out of the car it doesn’t drive back home by it’s self. I park it in Belco town centre

pink little birdie pink little birdie 2:31 pm 12 Sep 13

Masquara said :

What on earth is with question 7?
“How many people (apart from the driver) normally drive to work with you when you park at work?”
The options given are: “1,2,3,4,5, more than 5”
Um the majority of people drive to work alone, and they cannot even answer the question!
Survey designed by Belconnenites … need I say more!

Ummmm the Belconnen town centre has ABS in it. It’s where all the responses about weighting and improper question designs are coming from.
Though really what did the designers expect?

damien haas damien haas 1:56 pm 12 Sep 13

Martlark said :

Odd little survey. It just assumes that you want more parking and the only solution is more parking. Where is the option for less parking?

You can write that in the space provided for question nine or ten. I think its ten from memory.

Thanks to people for taking the time to complete it, well over 50 responses so far.

Matt_Watts Matt_Watts 11:28 am 12 Sep 13

Martlark said :

Odd little survey. It just assumes that you want more parking and the only solution is more parking. Where is the option for less parking?

It’s one thing to state the current parking arrangements are sufficient, yet I would personally find it odd for a driver – who actually parks in the Belconnen Town Centre – to call for less parking availability. Perhaps this survey structure was designed to avoid anti-car votes, when the entire point of it seems to question what drivers think…?

Martlark Martlark 10:13 am 12 Sep 13

Odd little survey. It just assumes that you want more parking and the only solution is more parking. Where is the option for less parking?

Snave81 Snave81 9:33 am 12 Sep 13

Belconnen will have a bigger parking problem in the future if car parks are continually sold off for apartments and there is not a viable alternative to pick up the slack. While the town centre is well serviced by buses, they are not always suitable. In the last few years the Cameron Offices car parks have been turned in to the Oracle apartments. The temporary car park on the old bus interchange site has become the Sentinel apartments. Half a car park opposite CISAC is being turned in to the Linq apartments and the car park behind the Labor Club has a sign saying the car park has been earmarked for future development. What plans are in place to deal with the closure of these car parks or to provide or promote alternatives?

Deref Deref 9:01 am 12 Sep 13

poetix said :

Deref said :

poetix said :

People dine in Belconnen?

Oh yes, Some of the best Asian restaurants in Canberra are in Belco.

I didn’t know, and it’s too far for a tipsy (bike-path) bike ride, as opposed to Dickson. What are the names of these restaurants?

Prince Palace is very good and the place next door (Too Yummy IIRC) is amazing! Monkey Magic’s good and across the road and upstairs there’s a Burmese place that’s absolutely delightful. Sorry to be so vague on the names. 🙁 But they’re all well worth the trip.

damien haas damien haas 8:51 am 12 Sep 13

poetix said :

Deref said :

poetix said :

People dine in Belconnen?

Oh yes, Some of the best Asian restaurants in Canberra are in Belco.

I didn’t know, and it’s too far for a tipsy (bike-path) bike ride, as opposed to Dickson. What are the names of these restaurants?

Wonder Meals is pretty good. Chapters is great.

damien haas damien haas 8:50 am 12 Sep 13

Masquara said :

What on earth is with question 7?
“How many people (apart from the driver) normally drive to work with you when you park at work?”
The options given are: “1,2,3,4,5, more than 5”
Um the majority of people drive to work alone, and they cannot even answer the question!
Survey designed by Belconnenites … need I say more!

I had look at the results so far and 19 people have skipped the question. This indicates to me that if you are the only person in the car you would realise this doesnt apply, and umm skip the question.

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