High Pressure Donation Tactics Undertaken by the Red Cross in Civic

BerraBoy68 17 July 2008 47

In walking back through Civic from  a meeting yesterday I was intercepted by a very friendly red cross worker wanting a chat.  He had the t-shirt and badge and I noticed several other similarly dressed people talking, or at least trying to talk, to other good citizens.

I stopped as I regularly give blood and am about to register as on the bone-marrow donor list – I thought this guy might have some info I could use. 

However he started going into a very well prepared patter about kids in Canberra that don’t get enough breakfast and before I knew it he had a form in his hand and I’d given him my name, employment details etc… 

I finally get hold of myself when he started asking for my bank account number, BSB and suchlike.  

On telling this guy I didn’t have my wallet on me he pulled out his mobile phone and a phone book and said “here call your bank now and get the over the phones”.   

This was the biggest warning sign for me and I walked off not just a bit unnerved. It would be easy to see how the old or vulnerable would be pressured into giving over their bank details to strangers. 

While I’m going to call the Red Cross voicing my concern about this ‘pressure’ technique I’m curious if anybody else had similar experience yesterday.  Also, while this group were from Melb. and only in the ACT for 1 day they did have very professional t-shirts, forms and promotional material so I’m pretty sure it’s not  an unauthorised scam.


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Pesty Pesty 8:21 am 19 Jul 08

Deadmandrinking said :

Jake, the government and the public service have a special place in my hatred.

DMD I have never clapped eyes on you, but my perception of you is that you are unlikely to get hit by the “charity muggers” LOL! All joking aside, there are a lot of vulnerable people out there who will easily get taken in by these ‘barstewards” Lets not confuse them though as some one pointed out, with the door knock appeal guys, they are genuine!

Davo111 Davo111 7:53 pm 18 Jul 08

Bungle said :

I’ve heard that these ‘volunteers’ are actually on a commission.

I used to be a volunteer for the red cross. Back then they had special badges to prove who we were, and if the person is paid or not. Ask to see the badge it will either say “PAID COLLECTOR” or “UNPAID VOLUNTEER”. I’m not sure about these people (i.e. external companies) and what identification they have to carry, but it seems suss. The easiest way is to avoid them and donate through the methods on the red cross website 🙂
http://www.redcross.org.au/howyoucanhelp_default.htm

jakez jakez 6:41 pm 18 Jul 08

Deadmandrinking said :

Jake, the government and the public service have a special place in my hatred.

You’re my kind of gender neutral poster.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 5:38 pm 18 Jul 08

Jake, the government and the public service have a special place in my hatred.

Pandy Pandy 5:35 pm 18 Jul 08

Is BoysTown a scam? I wonder if that father drives in a Roller around the Gold Coast.

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 5:28 pm 18 Jul 08

Vic Bitterman said :

Many years ago in a fit of humanity, I donated a sum of money to the charity House With No Steps when they cold-canvassed and called me at home one night.

A few months later, they called me up again, and in the middle of the sales pitch, I interrupted them and asked “What? Haven’t you built those steps yet?”

ROFLMAO!

NickD NickD 5:17 pm 18 Jul 08

I used to donate to Amnesty International but gave it up after they spammed me with a huge number of letters begging for more money. I had to ring up and complain to be taken off their mailing list though.

Vic Bitterman Vic Bitterman 4:57 pm 18 Jul 08

Nothing related to high pressure Civic charity sales tactics…

Many years ago in a fit of humanity, I donated a sum of money to the charity House With No Steps when they cold-canvassed and called me at home one night.

A few months later, they called me up again, and in the middle of the sales pitch, I interrupted them and asked “What? Haven’t you built those steps yet?”

There was silence and they hung up on me.

Haven’d from them since. Love it! 🙂

pug206gti pug206gti 3:42 pm 18 Jul 08

When the red cross wakes up to the wonderous world of modern science and reason and accepts my gay blood, I’ll give them some of my gay money too.

peterh peterh 1:23 pm 18 Jul 08

astrojax,

at least cheer John on in the paralympics this year – he will be competing in the rowing.

great bloke, and has a really big heart. My MD rode from sydney to melbourne with him to raise money for disabled kids last year. Each stopover was planned, so that they could deliver a wheelchair, bed or other disability product to the child that really needed it. all the donations raised by the bike ride went to help these kids and others.

astrojax astrojax 1:15 pm 18 Jul 08

i only help animals, peterh… ; )

medicins sans frontieres, as pointed out earlier, indulge in these guerilla tactics and lost my regular support. i used, for years, to give a lump at xmas on behalf of my siblings and parents in the stead of a gift and did a gig for them as part of assuaging my guilt for my self-indulgence one year for a significant birthday, but now i shop round different charities each year, mainly ’cause of the angst of hassling me. pity, i like msf.

peterh peterh 12:55 pm 18 Jul 08

I give money to the salvos and the John Maclean Foundation. Don’t need to donate to any others, I do first aid training at St John Ambulance, they get their money from me that way.

I do, however, buy a snag from the bunnings bbq when it is a charity or association running it that I support.

BTW, if you have no idea who the John Maclean foundation is, have a look at this site:
http://www.jmf.com.au

very worthy cause – and it is helping australian kids.

Jazz Jazz 12:18 pm 18 Jul 08

My sister started working for a charity/aid organisation recently and for the first serveral months she just couldnt get aclimatised to the culture of the place. It was only after she worked out that the organisation wasnt as altruistic as they perception they liked to project that she understood that it wasn’t her.

Loose Brown Loose Brown 11:21 am 18 Jul 08

It’s a huge scam and a sad state of affairs.

The people collecting money appear to work for a given charity – but they actually work for another, private company. They are professionally trained in extracting money from passers by. Only a percentage of what they collect is passed on to the charity – who really can’t afford to say no. The rest goes to the private company, for the life of the contract!!

The jobs are very popular with working holidaymakers such as British people, etc because of its short term casual nature.

Best thing to do is to tell the collectors you prefer to donate directly to the charity involved and not provide a ‘cut’ to their employer.

Check it out:
http://www.cornucopia.com.au/

“JOB PAYMENT:
Usually works on commission if you are signing people to monthly payment plans, with bonuses on top. Collecting using collecting tins often pays a percentage of how much you have in your tin at the end of the day, which you receive in cash. So again, depends entirely on how good you are.”

Pseudo Nym Pseudo Nym 11:17 am 18 Jul 08

Whatever happened to giving at the proverbial office and never at the door (or, case be it, street or supermarket)?

Websites & such make it quite simple to select who and when to give to, and to make said donations without needing a guilt trip.

johnboy johnboy 11:05 am 18 Jul 08

I think the Mormons shy away from asking for your bank details on the street.

They only ask for 10% of your money after they’ve got your soul.

tylersmayhem tylersmayhem 10:58 am 18 Jul 08

I became very used to this happening in London, and sadly now it’s happening in little ole’ Canberra. It’s called Charity Mugging, and I urge everyone not to have anything to do with them. It badly represents all Charities and it;s an approach which should only be kept for Amway and Mormons!

jakez jakez 10:27 am 18 Jul 08

bubzie said :

Bungle said :

I’ve heard that these ‘volunteers’ are actually on a commission.

sorry for being ignorant, but how the hell are they ‘volunteers’ if they’re on a commission? when you volunteer, you dont get paid! arrgh!!
(yeah, who gave grandma the internet, haha)

Yes bubzie, thus the parentheses.

jakez jakez 10:12 am 18 Jul 08

Deadmandrinking said :

1) No-one should be making money off other people’s suffering.

Do you include the Government and public service in that?

bubzie bubzie 12:56 am 18 Jul 08

Bungle said :

I’ve heard that these ‘volunteers’ are actually on a commission.

sorry for being ignorant, but how the hell are they ‘volunteers’ if they’re on a commission? when you volunteer, you dont get paid! arrgh!!
(yeah, who gave grandma the internet, haha)

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