Wouldn’t a better course of action for one of the witnesses to be simply give the local cop shop a call and say what they saw in their own words?

“Pedal Power are seeking people who may have seen or heard of this accident to contact their office on 6248 7995 to get the required details for reporting this incident to the police.” screams to me that Pedal Power will give you the “right” information which to tell the police…

or just call the rozzers direct

Here we go, another car versus cyclist thread. Hope he is ok.

I am outraged that a motorist would hit a cyclist and fail to assist.

I am outraged that members of the general public in their tin-and-glass motorbubbles would also fail to stop and help or provide a statement as witness.

Under the circumsances, it’s poor form to complain about PP’s awkwardly-worded statement.

Brandi said :

I am outraged that a motorist would hit a cyclist and fail to assist.

I am outraged that members of the general public in their tin-and-glass motorbubbles would also fail to stop and help or provide a statement as witness.

Under the circumsances, it’s poor form to complain about PP’s awkwardly-worded statement.

harvyk1 said :

Brandi said :

I am outraged that a motorist would hit a cyclist and fail to assist.

I am outraged that members of the general public in their tin-and-glass motorbubbles would also fail to stop and help or provide a statement as witness.

Under the circumsances, it’s poor form to complain about PP’s awkwardly-worded statement.

Be outraged, also don’t forget to be outraged over the many other things which happen in society which are unfair…

Until independent witnesses come forwards we have only heard one side of the story. Sure it doesn’t bode well for the motorist driving off, but the state of the car does not immediately infer guilt, and for all we know the motorist did not realise that it was an accident of which there are details to be exchanged, especially if the cyclist was able to move themselves off the road without assistance

Of course if the cyclist required assistance to move off the road then the real question is why did someone move a person who could have a spinal injury.

Look, that is still a pretty busy time at this intersection.Pedal Power (law enforcement in lycra??) claims that there were up to FIFTEEN (!!) cars at intersection, why did not any one stop and report?Surely, if I saw a motorist was in the wrong, I would stop and assist/offered to be a witness, but the fact nobody helped…..It shows that:
i-Lycra wearing dude thought he owns the road and caused all this.
ii- read i, then ask yourself why growing number of motorists (yes, including me)-don’t like dicks like him.
There are plenty of cyclists that do the right things, and I respect them, they don’t push their luck, but then, there are some…..like the subject of discussions.

harvyk1 said :

Wouldn’t a better course of action for one of the witnesses to be simply give the local cop shop a call and say what they saw in their own words?

It’s really simple: having a case number means the relevant witness accounts can be filed together, rather than getting lost in the melange.

DUB said :

Surely, if I saw a motorist was in the wrong, I would stop and assist/offered to be a witness, but the fact nobody helped…..It shows that:
i-Lycra wearing dude thought he owns the road and caused all this.
ii- read i, then ask yourself why growing number of motorists (yes, including me)-don’t like dicks like him.
There are plenty of cyclists that do the right things, and I respect them, they don’t push their luck, but then, there are some…..like the subject of discussions.

You wouldn’t happen to be jumping to conclusions there, by any chance? If the cyclist happened to be on the main road at a T intersection, riding along Hindmarsh drive, that cyclist would have right of way. That would make this incident a failure to give way, at the very least. There’s nothing in the message from Pedal Power to indicate that the cyclist caused this incident other than by being in the wrong place when a blind/drunk driver was going past.

What if the reason that no-one stopped is simply that they thought, “oh, he’s not being carried away in an ambulance, I don’t need to pay any further attention, and I do need to hurry to get one of the free parking spots close to the office”?

Does the fact that a person is not bleeding to death on the side of the road imply that they were at fault or that no assistance was required?

Please apply at least a few seconds thought before clicking that “Submit” button.

DUB said :

Look, that is still a pretty busy time at this intersection.Pedal Power (law enforcement in lycra??) claims that there were up to FIFTEEN (!!) cars at intersection, why did not any one stop and report?Surely, if I saw a motorist was in the wrong, I would stop and assist/offered to be a witness, but the fact nobody helped…..It shows that:
i-Lycra wearing dude thought he owns the road and caused all this.
ii- read i, then ask yourself why growing number of motorists (yes, including me)-don’t like dicks like him.
There are plenty of cyclists that do the right things, and I respect them, they don’t push their luck, but then, there are some…..like the subject of discussions.

Sometimes it’s hard to pick dicks on the road in time, but fortunately your early use of the word ‘lycra’ gave me ample warning in this thread.

DUB said :

nobody helped…..It shows that:
i-Lycra wearing dude thought he owns the road and caused all this.

That’s one massive logical failing in your argument, compounded by one gigantic assumption.

“I saw someone get the sh1t beaten out of them in civic. No-one helped them. Therefore it was their own fault and they deserved it.”

harvyk1 said :

Wouldn’t a better course of action for one of the witnesses to be simply give the local cop shop a call and say what they saw in their own words?

“Pedal Power are seeking people who may have seen or heard of this accident to contact their office on 6248 7995 to get the required details for reporting this incident to the police.” screams to me that Pedal Power will give you the “right” information which to tell the police…

Whats the “right” information to tell the police about a car/cylist accident? The police don’t operate on a ‘blame/fault’ system in this instance. More likely they would like to hear from the driver to see if they have insurance, are willing to admit fault, and lodge an insurance claim through their (the drivers) insurance company.

I don’t really like cyclists either. But my partner is one. He was hit at a roundabout 2 weeks ago when a driver failed to give way. Heaps of people drove by without stopping. There are a lot of cyclists being hit all the time. I rang the police – but unless there is a reason for them to attend (death/drink driver) they don’t attend. They advised to ‘file the report online’ – I asked what they do with the reports, is it used for insurance etc? The police officer said ‘oh we don’t do anything, its more for statistical purposes’.
When he took his bike in for repairs (write-off) they advised that they had seen multiple cyclists hit in the last few weeks. Its becoming a more common occurance in Canberra.

Jim Jones said :

“I saw someone get the sh1t beaten out of them in civic. No-one helped them. Therefore it was their own fault and they deserved it.”

We both know that majority of people in Canberra are pussies, they can’t even resolve problems with others by speaking to a person they have a problem with first, let alone-help others in time of distress.
Bashing in Civic?
Night time, I guess, and what did you do-you saw it and did nothing?
I’ll tell you something, when I lived OS, my wife and I witnessed a guy, obviously on drugs, trying to indecently assault a girl, in her early 20’s, daylight, 100’s of people walking by, not single one of them caring.
What did i do? My blood boiled in an instant, I had a handgun on me that fires rubber bullets-I fired in his neck, after he refused my demand to let her go.he squealed like a pig.
People around started to scream, I picked up a shell and walked away, calmly.True story.
Firearm was legal, btw. No problems at all.
Even if I had no gun on me at that time I would have stepped in.

Postalgeek said :

DUB said :

Look, that is still a pretty busy time at this intersection.Pedal Power (law enforcement in lycra??) claims that there were up to FIFTEEN (!!) cars at intersection, why did not any one stop and report?Surely, if I saw a motorist was in the wrong, I would stop and assist/offered to be a witness, but the fact nobody helped…..It shows that:
i-Lycra wearing dude thought he owns the road and caused all this.
ii- read i, then ask yourself why growing number of motorists (yes, including me)-don’t like dicks like him.
There are plenty of cyclists that do the right things, and I respect them, they don’t push their luck, but then, there are some…..like the subject of discussions.

Sometimes it’s hard to pick dicks on the road in time, but fortunately your early use of the word ‘lycra’ gave me ample warning in this thread.

It’s actually very easy to pick the dicks on the road, if they’re on the road they’re dicks. Motorists and cyclists alike

DUB said :

Jim Jones said :

“I saw someone get the sh1t beaten out of them in civic. No-one helped them. Therefore it was their own fault and they deserved it.”

We both know that majority of people in Canberra are pussies, they can’t even resolve problems with others by speaking to a person they have a problem with first, let alone-help others in time of distress.
Bashing in Civic?
Night time, I guess, and what did you do-you saw it and did nothing?
I’ll tell you something, when I lived OS, my wife and I witnessed a guy, obviously on drugs, trying to indecently assault a girl, in her early 20’s, daylight, 100’s of people walking by, not single one of them caring.
What did i do? My blood boiled in an instant, I had a handgun on me that fires rubber bullets-I fired in his neck, after he refused my demand to let her go.he squealed like a pig.
People around started to scream, I picked up a shell and walked away, calmly.True story.
Firearm was legal, btw. No problems at all.
Even if I had no gun on me at that time I would have stepped in.

That whole post just went riiiiight over your head, didn’t it?