How did Canberra form?

Solidarity 6 July 2012 50

Hey guys,

Is there a list of how Canberra formed? Which suburbs came first, when they started to be lived in, all that kind of stuff?

When did Gunghalin come into being? I thought it was early 1990’s, but I just saw a picture of a bus that said Gunghalin on it, apparently from 1985…

So what were the original suburbs? What times did new ones start coming into play? Did the city go North or South first? How did the city expand? Where is it headed in the future?

I’m assuming there is a government website that has all this info… Does anyone know?

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Baldy Baldy 4:54 pm 09 Jul 12

arescarti42 said :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canberra_suburbs

Is the only list I’m familiar with, a lot of those entries have dates.

I always thought the oldest suburbs in Gungahlin were established in the early 1990s.

As for how the entirety of the city developed, my understanding is as follows:

1. The oldest parts of the city are what is now known as the Inner South, I believe Kingston and Manuka were the first commercial areas in the city, probably mostly developed in the 20s and 30s.
2. Civic and the inner north were developed after the Inner South, probably in the 1940s and 50s.
3. The Woden Valley was the first satellite, developed through the 1960s.
4. Belconnen and Weston Creek were developed after Woden, probably late 60s to late 70s.
5. Tuggeranong was developed during the 1980s.
6. Gungahlin from 1990s to present.
7. The short and medium term future will see continued development in Gungahlin, and establishment and development of the Molonglo region.

I have a picture at home of some woman standing on Mt Ainsle looking at the Melbourne and Sydney buildings which were the only buildings in the shot. This was from 1936.

Oh an Haigh park was there as well.

Mr Evil Mr Evil 12:44 pm 09 Jul 12

Canberra crawled out of the lake approx. 60 000 000 years ago as a type of slug, and according to some people from elsewhere in Australia, it has now turned into a bloodsucking, souless leech. 🙂

Thumper Thumper 11:47 am 09 Jul 12

troll-sniffer said :

Youse people with all your mixed-up ideas and false histories… enough of the leg-pulling OK?

Canberra was and remains a pet sub-project of Slartibartfast, the designer of the fjords in Norway. Recommended as a medical treatment to calm him down during his increasingly manic coastline designs submitted to the Earth MKII planning committee. Creating and developing a boring mundane metropolis seems to calm old Slarti down and lessen the chances of fjords being proposed all the way through Scandinavia to Finland.

Actually, it were the mice.

troll-sniffer troll-sniffer 11:31 am 09 Jul 12

Youse people with all your mixed-up ideas and false histories… enough of the leg-pulling OK?

Canberra was and remains a pet sub-project of Slartibartfast, the designer of the fjords in Norway. Recommended as a medical treatment to calm him down during his increasingly manic coastline designs submitted to the Earth MKII planning committee. Creating and developing a boring mundane metropolis seems to calm old Slarti down and lessen the chances of fjords being proposed all the way through Scandinavia to Finland.

Sandman Sandman 7:55 am 09 Jul 12

cantdance said :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canberra_suburbs

Thanks for posting that link.

Makes for some hilarious reading. There’s a suburb planned for Jerrabomberra called ‘Beard’. Oh I’m sure they will just love that.

Beard is the new industrial suburb that has sprung up on the Queanbeyan border on the opposite side of Canberra avenue to Harman.

cantdance cantdance 7:34 pm 08 Jul 12

Pork Hunt said :

cantdance said :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canberra_suburbs

Thanks for posting that link.

Makes for some hilarious reading. There’s a suburb planned for Jerrabomberra called ‘Beard’. Oh I’m sure they will just love that.

Beard has been built and is off Canberra Avenue on Norse Road right next to the ACT/NSW border.

I can’t even find it on a map.

c_c c_c 3:42 pm 08 Jul 12

Tuggeranong Town Centre was mid 80s onwards. Hyperdome came in 88-89. The Town Centre was originally to be in the middle rather than on the edge of Tuggeranong but they decided not to develop out west.

There’s some really interesting NCDC reports in public libraries.

If you really want a gold mine, the NCA Library is also available, though open only by appointment and prior request. It has just about everything about how the suburbs and that developed as the successor to half a dozen different authorities right back to Burley Griffin’s own involvement.

PoQ PoQ 10:36 am 08 Jul 12

See if you can find another copy of “Canberra Site and City” by G J R Linge (ANU Press, 1975 – isbn 0 7081 0406 1) from which comes (at p70):

“…For all its faults, Canberra is a pleasant place to live for the white collar, middle class, conformist, car-owing majority …”

Its a pretty good summary of the history of the place.

LSWCHP LSWCHP 11:47 pm 07 Jul 12

caf said :

Pork Hunt said :

cantdance said :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canberra_suburbs

Thanks for posting that link.

Makes for some hilarious reading. There’s a suburb planned for Jerrabomberra called ‘Beard’. Oh I’m sure they will just love that.

Beard has been built and is off Canberra Avenue on Norse Road right next to the ACT/NSW border.

Named after Frank Beard, drummer for ZZ Top.

That’s simply ridiculous. How on earth could someone post such nonsense on RA?

The suburb of Beard is named after my beard, which I’ve had almost continuously since 1995.

caf caf 10:02 pm 07 Jul 12

Pork Hunt said :

cantdance said :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canberra_suburbs

Thanks for posting that link.

Makes for some hilarious reading. There’s a suburb planned for Jerrabomberra called ‘Beard’. Oh I’m sure they will just love that.

Beard has been built and is off Canberra Avenue on Norse Road right next to the ACT/NSW border.

Named after Frank Beard, drummer for ZZ Top.

aussielyn aussielyn 1:28 pm 07 Jul 12

In 1855, John Gale sat on his horse on Kurrajong Hill and thought what a great site for a city. He successfully lobbied for Yass Canberra as the capital of Australia. First came the surveyors, living in tents (white city in Acton) or rough humpies. Water, sewerage & power infrastructure were to be set up. Housing, offices and a temporary parliament house had to be built. The Cotter Dam, sewerage tunnels, Power House and brickworks were built. Standards of accommodation were according to class.
Ann Guglar is an eminent historian who has a few websites on early Canberra. Look at the electoral rolls on included website. Alan Foskett has a book on the Molonglo Internment Camp, The Molonglo Mystery, which was located where Molonglo Mall is now in Fyshwick.

http://canberracamps.webs.com/electoralrolls.htm

Pork Hunt Pork Hunt 1:19 pm 07 Jul 12

cantdance said :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canberra_suburbs

Thanks for posting that link.

Makes for some hilarious reading. There’s a suburb planned for Jerrabomberra called ‘Beard’. Oh I’m sure they will just love that.

Beard has been built and is off Canberra Avenue on Norse Road right next to the ACT/NSW border.

JC JC 9:14 am 07 Jul 12

ThisIsAName said :

Ages ago I read that “planning” started for GG in the 70s. I’ve got no idea where that was, but ACTPLA has a short history in the 1st few paras of this: http://apps.actpla.act.gov.au/tplan/variatio/dv231/Finalv231.pdf

Looks like the bad design decision for Gungahlin were made at some point in the 80s (Flemington Rd for one) 🙂

One of the google results was this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Canberra
There is a brief mention of town centres & a population graph. From a skim read, I couldn’t see much detail as to individual suburbs.

I did an assignment in town planning when I was in high school (finished in ’88). As part of the assignment I researched the planned new town centre of Gungahlin. From what I recall the original NCDC plans were pretty good and would have made Gungahlin just like any of the older areas. One thing I recall was Flemmington Road was meant to have be re-alligned to run directly onto Philip Ave which was meant to be extended around the back of Ainslie to Ainslie Ave in the city. There was also none of the sillyness where a main road runs directly through the centre of the shopping area.

But guess they were the days of Government land development.

dph dph 1:52 am 07 Jul 12

breda said :

I worked in the then Dept of the Capital Territory for a short time in 1973, and there were maps of proposed new suburbs floating around, including plans for the “Crace Industrial Estate.” I’m guessing that the expected manufacturing boom and associated demand for industrial land never came about, hence we now have the Crace Housing Estate instead.

Crace changes that.

For only a small crippling morgage, you can get a poorly built house that was incredibly rushed & squeezed into the smallest land space possible.

arescarti42 arescarti42 12:12 am 07 Jul 12

ThisIsAName said :

Looks like the bad design decision for Gungahlin were made at some point in the 80s (Flemington Rd for one) 🙂

Would you mind elaborating? I’m curious what your objection to Flemington Road is.

Hosinator said :

Just released by the National Film and Sound Archive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42cw_9Fyvqw

I had to chuckle at the “Especially striking blocks of flats only a minute or two away from the main shopping centre”, referring to Bega and Allawah courts.

joh8754 joh8754 11:10 pm 06 Jul 12

try this website – http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/tools_resources/maps_land_survey/place_names/place_search

Canberra’s suburb and street names present an interesting mosaic of Australia’s local and national high achievers, its geography, heritage and history. Some of the people commemorated are well known, whilst others made their mark as quiet achievers. Our Indigenous heritage, Australian geography and history are all drawn together and reflected in the National Capital’s place names.

In 1927, the Canberra National Memorials Committee, in a report to the Federal Parliament on the Naming of Canberra’s Streets and Suburbs, proposed that street names in Canberra’s suburbs follow a theme. This policy (one of the oldest in the ACT) has been followed to this day.

Using this tool, you can find information about the founding colonial days and efforts of latter day heroes. You may also discover a family connection to a person commemorated in our street names.

You can search by suburb, street, gazettal date of the suburb, origin, etc

sepi sepi 10:20 pm 06 Jul 12

ainslie and kingston were the first residential suburbs, and the first ACTION buses ran from Ainslie to Kingston via civic. A lot of braddon/reid etc was called ainslie in those days – that is why the ainslie school is in braddon.

there is a fantastic book called Voices of Ainslie about the people who lived in the first houses during the depression – amazing stuff. They had a much worse housing crisis than we are having. Little 3 beddies in Ainslie would have the parents in one room, the married son and wife and toddler in another bedroom, the other married daughter and husband in the last bedroom, and the unmarried sons sleeping in the sleepout – covered verandah, with frost on the blankets. Some kids also went to school with no shoes, and Canberra winters were colder then, with snow once in a while.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/7935809?selectedversion=NBD13776010

LSWCHP LSWCHP 9:52 pm 06 Jul 12

Antagonist said :

arescarti42 said :

1. The oldest parts of the city are what is now known as the Inner South, I believe Kingston and Manuka were the first commercial areas in the city, probably mostly developed in the 20s and 30s.

My great-grandparents moved from Melbourne to Acton (Leversidge St) in 1924. Acton was well established at this point – having been there for approximately 10 years at that time. At around the same time, there was a small settlement/suburb near the brickworks, which I believe is now submerged beneath LBG.

I recall the real-estate developer by the name of ‘Woodgers’ (Canberra Raiders first sponsor?) appealed against many purchase prices for land in the Kingston/Manuka area in the 1920/30’s. If you do a Google search, you might be able to turn some useful dates up.

5. Tuggeranong was developed during the 1980s.

I first moved to Kambah in the late 1970’s. It was certainly pre-1980.

My family moved into a side street off the south end of Wheeler Crescent in Wanniassa in 1978. We were one of the southernmost houses in Canberra at the time. Wanniassa was most full by then, and Kambah was complete as far as I can remember. Construction started in Monash a couple of years later.

cantdance cantdance 9:44 pm 06 Jul 12

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canberra_suburbs

Thanks for posting that link.

Makes for some hilarious reading. There’s a suburb planned for Jerrabomberra called ‘Beard’. Oh I’m sure they will just love that.

grunge_hippy grunge_hippy 9:02 pm 06 Jul 12

http://www.davesact.com/ is also a great resource. I used it a lot for a unit I wrote for my year 3 class last year on this very subject.

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