17 August 2012

Hugh Veness named

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The ABC has one of Canberra’s worst kept secrets:

A Canberra psychiatrist struck off for making sexual advances on a patient and over prescribing her drugs can now be named.

The ACT Civil and Administrative Tribunal this week lifted a non-publication order that prevented Dr Hugh Veness from being named.

Earlier this year the tribunal found Dr Veness guilty of professional misconduct and cancelled his registration after hearing evidence from the Australian Medical Board.

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jinkies said :

fedup said :

And I doubt she would still be alive as from what I understand she was very unhappy either way.

What the f*** kind of attitude do you call that?

Agree, blaming a victim is disgusting. And just because a doctor does something illegal with one patient doesn’t mean he’s not careful about who he targets.

fedup said :

No I’m not ‘Mrs Veness’
Yes Dr Veness was very attentive but not in the way you imply.
And I doubt she would still be alive as from what I understand she was very unhappy either way.[/quoteY

So no matter what Dr Veness did, she’d still be dead? Not the most successful practitioner then hey? Might as well not see him in that case.

He obviously needs to update his domain knowledge and treatment regimes. The “Root Me as Your One True Path to Happiness” program has apparently not panned out so well for some clients, but apparently that’s OK, because they’d be dead anyway.

Affirmative Action Man said :

Disgraceful by the AAT to have his name suppressed for so long. They seem to be working against the public interest. And shame on the Government & Greens for allowing it…

What? It’s called ‘separation of powers’.

Woody Mann-Caruso6:37 pm 04 Nov 12

*facepalm*

Hugh,

Please write me off line at mytanwy@gmail.com

fedup said :

And I doubt she would still be alive as from what I understand she was very unhappy either way.

What the f*** kind of attitude do you call that?

No I’m not ‘Mrs Veness’
Yes Dr Veness was very attentive but not in the way you imply.
And I doubt she would still be alive as from what I understand she was very unhappy either way.

fedup said :

@ comic & game nerd. No I’m not Dr Veness. I was a patient of Dr Veness.
Yes Dr Veness is different but being different is not a crime nor is wanting to find love. Dr Veness has been a wonderful kind and careing Dr to me and I can tell you right here right now if it wasn’t for him I wouldn’t be here today!

Is that you Mrs Veness?

fedup said :

Yes Dr Veness is different but being different is not a crime nor is wanting to find love. Dr Veness has been a wonderful kind and careing Dr to me

Is he very attentive?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd8:51 am 19 Aug 12

fedup said :

@ comic & game nerd. No I’m not Dr Veness. I was a patient of Dr Veness.
Yes Dr Veness is different but being different is not a crime nor is wanting to find love. Dr Veness has been a wonderful kind and careing Dr to me and I can tell you right here right now if it wasn’t for him I wouldn’t be here today!

And dr lioulios probably still would be here if she never met him.

@ comic & game nerd. No I’m not Dr Veness. I was a patient of Dr Veness.
Yes Dr Veness is different but being different is not a crime nor is wanting to find love. Dr Veness has been a wonderful kind and careing Dr to me and I can tell you right here right now if it wasn’t for him I wouldn’t be here today!

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd11:11 pm 18 Aug 12

fedup said :

Dr Veness has been the best Dr I have ever been to. No matter what I believe this to be a witch hunt. Not long ago a Psyc had sex and did ecstasy with a patient and they received an 18 month suspension. How can an ‘expert’ diagnose someone without speaking to the person? I put in a complaint too about another Dr. I had physical evidence and witnesses and they did nothing whist this is based on hear say.

S that you dr veness?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd11:09 pm 18 Aug 12

Mr Gillespie said :

screaming banshee said :

Riotact’s resident plastic bag lover and woman hater, known best for his stalking of news reporters, and for his disrespect for the deceased because it means he cant watch sh1t getting blown up

Probably the scariest part of this guy’s rap sheet is that (assuming I read it correctly) Tony Abbot follows this dick on twitter https://twitter.com/#!/CanberraUser/followers

Maybe you (along with Colourful Sydney Racing Identity and a few other regulars of this site) need to see a (law-abiding) psychiatrist (and for your information, surprise surprise, believe what you will etc., I am not referring to the one named as subject of this thread), because you have either exaggerated your “facts”, or got them completely wrong.

Now, about the judgments you have passed on me in this instance.

Screaming Banshee’s (#17) Statement No. 1:
I was not, and never have and never will be, a “plastic bag lover”. I was forced to begin the campaign of (what you perceive as) “loving plastic bags” when on November 1, 2011, at the corner shop, a place where people buy food, toiletries, and other household items, I was forced to pay a fee (for a reusable bag) or carry all my items by hand. Back, and forth, and back, and forth, and back, and forth…..(get my drift yet?)

Screaming Banshee’s (#17) Statement No. 2:
The only women I “hate” are the attention-seekers, the victim-mentality types, like the one who made the false rape accusation on a beach (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/teen-girl-made-false-rape-report-to-police/story-e6frea83-1226395765839), a lot of the time they are on drugs and would do anything (including make such a false story up and get everyone to feel sorry for her) to support her next fix, the ones that get INNOCENT men into trouble. They are the “women I hate” because they tarnish good INNOCENT men with their stories, and mud sticks even when the accused is INNOCENT.

Screaming Banshee’s (#17) Statement No. 3:
Disrespect for the deceased because I need to watch shit being blown up. Another stupid, exaggerated, misguided judgment assumed of me. The things referred to here are in response to the hysteria (going on since July 1997) because a dodgy contractor was used for the RCH demolition, a mistake that was made and never allowed to pass even though quite obviously we have learnt from that mistake (without needing to go over the top with the precautions — NOTE where I said “over the top” in case you miss that small bit)

Screaming Banshee’s (#17) Statement No. 4:
As for whether I support Tony Abbott, big deal. You are obviously a Labor or Greens supporter. You are on the other side of the political fence than me. Problem is, you have trouble accepting this. I could accuse you of being a Julia Gillard supporter but that’s going way off topic now, and I thought this thread was about an extremely dodgy “psychiatrist” called Hugh Veness.

Johnboy, how do I get in contact with you about obtaining email and ip addresses for his doomim writing about why people should need a license to interwebs?

Mr Evil said :

HenryBG said :

s-s-a said :

Out of interest, and assuming only genuine motives, how does, or can, a doctor go about initiating a relationship with a patient?

If the doctor is a psychiatrist, never. The RANZCP Code of Ethics states that a sexual relationship between a psychiatrist and current *or former* patient is never ethical. And they have a stated zero tolerance for sexual boundary violations, so doctors found guilty of this will be expelled and can never be reinstated.

Psychiatry is not science, and is barely even a medicine. Practitioners of this pseudo-science randomly prescribe drugs to their patients until they get a result they can call “progress”. It’s all rubbish, and they are largely loonies themselves.

Interesting; that’s what Scientology pretty much thinks of psychiatry too

Even a broken clock can end up being correct up to twice a day.

Dr Veness has been the best Dr I have ever been to. No matter what I believe this to be a witch hunt. Not long ago a Psyc had sex and did ecstasy with a patient and they received an 18 month suspension. How can an ‘expert’ diagnose someone without speaking to the person? I put in a complaint too about another Dr. I had physical evidence and witnesses and they did nothing whist this is based on hear say.

HenryBG said :

s-s-a said :

Out of interest, and assuming only genuine motives, how does, or can, a doctor go about initiating a relationship with a patient?

If the doctor is a psychiatrist, never. The RANZCP Code of Ethics states that a sexual relationship between a psychiatrist and current *or former* patient is never ethical. And they have a stated zero tolerance for sexual boundary violations, so doctors found guilty of this will be expelled and can never be reinstated.

Psychiatry is not science, and is barely even a medicine. Practitioners of this pseudo-science randomly prescribe drugs to their patients until they get a result they can call “progress”. It’s all rubbish, and they are largely loonies themselves.

Interesting; that’s what Scientology pretty much thinks of psychiatry too

I have met Hugh Veness (not as a client, I should point out) and the guy is a bit different, to say the least.

The Tania Lioulios matter was just plain scary, it is amazing they he didn’t end up in the dock over that. The only thing that saved him was that she recanted her origninal statement, for reasons that will only be known to her.

At any give time there are quite a few ACT medical professionals (doctors, psychologists, nurses, etc) before the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency for misconduct. Nearly all of their names are suppressed, so the general public has no idea if their medical professional is a drug addict, incompetent, or otherwise in the poo for not doing their job properly.

Let’s just watch the flood gates now open. She claims that the system failed her but I wonder how many Dr’s she saw, how many Dr’s bulk billed? I’m sorry but I don’t believe a word of this. Canberra’s justice system is back to front wrong way round.

Mr Gillespie8:16 pm 18 Aug 12

screaming banshee said :

Riotact’s resident plastic bag lover and woman hater, known best for his stalking of news reporters, and for his disrespect for the deceased because it means he cant watch sh1t getting blown up

Probably the scariest part of this guy’s rap sheet is that (assuming I read it correctly) Tony Abbot follows this dick on twitter https://twitter.com/#!/CanberraUser/followers

Maybe you (along with Colourful Sydney Racing Identity and a few other regulars of this site) need to see a (law-abiding) psychiatrist (and for your information, surprise surprise, believe what you will etc., I am not referring to the one named as subject of this thread), because you have either exaggerated your “facts”, or got them completely wrong.

Now, about the judgments you have passed on me in this instance.

Screaming Banshee’s (#17) Statement No. 1:
I was not, and never have and never will be, a “plastic bag lover”. I was forced to begin the campaign of (what you perceive as) “loving plastic bags” when on November 1, 2011, at the corner shop, a place where people buy food, toiletries, and other household items, I was forced to pay a fee (for a reusable bag) or carry all my items by hand. Back, and forth, and back, and forth, and back, and forth…..(get my drift yet?)

Screaming Banshee’s (#17) Statement No. 2:
The only women I “hate” are the attention-seekers, the victim-mentality types, like the one who made the false rape accusation on a beach (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/teen-girl-made-false-rape-report-to-police/story-e6frea83-1226395765839), a lot of the time they are on drugs and would do anything (including make such a false story up and get everyone to feel sorry for her) to support her next fix, the ones that get INNOCENT men into trouble. They are the “women I hate” because they tarnish good INNOCENT men with their stories, and mud sticks even when the accused is INNOCENT.

Screaming Banshee’s (#17) Statement No. 3:
Disrespect for the deceased because I need to watch shit being blown up. Another stupid, exaggerated, misguided judgment assumed of me. The things referred to here are in response to the hysteria (going on since July 1997) because a dodgy contractor was used for the RCH demolition, a mistake that was made and never allowed to pass even though quite obviously we have learnt from that mistake (without needing to go over the top with the precautions — NOTE where I said “over the top” in case you miss that small bit)

Screaming Banshee’s (#17) Statement No. 4:
As for whether I support Tony Abbott, big deal. You are obviously a Labor or Greens supporter. You are on the other side of the political fence than me. Problem is, you have trouble accepting this. I could accuse you of being a Julia Gillard supporter but that’s going way off topic now, and I thought this thread was about an extremely dodgy “psychiatrist” called Hugh Veness.

I’m sorry but I personally believe that this is more of a political Witch hunt. Even the ‘victim’ says she didn’t want to loose a good Dr. Is it possible that she had $$$ signs in her eyes? Is it possible that the investigation in January that pushed her to over does??? I’ve put in a complaint about a Psyc where I had physical evidence and witnesses and they did nothing! Why because the act gov hadn’t stuffed up and needed a nice scap goat.
I have seen Dr Veness for many years and not ONCE has he ever prescribed a drug where he hasn’t gone through all the details/what’s/whys/don’t/do and half the comments don’t even sound the way he speaks. I’m also curious on how the ‘experts’ came to their conclusions using paperwork not actually interviewing him. Health system is stuffed from the hospitals through to so called investigations.
I don’t think it is necessary to publish his name either. As a patient I find the publication humiliating and affects all aspects of my current situation. I’m also fascinated by a dr getting 18 month suspension for having sex and doing narcotics with a patient yet Dr Veness’ registration cancelled.
This is absolute crap!

DrKoresh said :

I can see it now:

MrGillespie:”Well maybe he HAD TO PLY HER WITH DRUGS to get HER INTERESTED in HIM. Because we all know what women want from MEN is DRUGS and MONEY!!! She was probably the one who started it anyway,with the WAY SHE WORE THAT SHIRT you could what SHE WANTED?!!

And now the poor guy has LOST HIS JOB thanks to a woman who’s probably growing fat off DOZENS OF CHILD-SUPPORT PAYMENTS!! It’s a disgrace, and another reason other THAN PLASTIC BAGS to vote for the NO MORE BLOODY IMMIGRANTS party in the upcoming ELECTION!”

Not enough caps or exclamation marks.

screaming banshee said :

Riotact’s resident plastic bag lover and woman hater, known best for his stalking of news reporters, and for his disrespect for the deceased because it means he cant watch sh1t getting blown up

Probably the scariest part of this guy’s rap sheet is that (assuming I read it correctly) Tony Abbot follows this dick on twitter https://twitter.com/#!/CanberraUser/followers

I think you’ll find, upon reading through his tweets, having TA as a follower is one of the least scary things.

screaming banshee5:18 pm 18 Aug 12

Above in response to ‘Who is Mr Gillespie’

screaming banshee5:17 pm 18 Aug 12

Riotact’s resident plastic bag lover and woman hater, known best for his stalking of news reporters, and for his disrespect for the deceased because it means he cant watch sh1t getting blown up

Probably the scariest part of this guy’s rap sheet is that (assuming I read it correctly) Tony Abbot follows this dick on twitter https://twitter.com/#!/CanberraUser/followers

s-s-a said :

Out of interest, and assuming only genuine motives, how does, or can, a doctor go about initiating a relationship with a patient?

If the doctor is a psychiatrist, never. The RANZCP Code of Ethics states that a sexual relationship between a psychiatrist and current *or former* patient is never ethical. And they have a stated zero tolerance for sexual boundary violations, so doctors found guilty of this will be expelled and can never be reinstated.

Psychiatry is not science, and is barely even a medicine. Practitioners of this pseudo-science randomly prescribe drugs to their patients until they get a result they can call “progress”. It’s all rubbish, and they are largely loonies themselves.

Who is Mr Gillespie?

Ozhair said :

Where’s Mr Gillespie? Shouldn’t he be explaining to us how this poor bloke didn’t really do anything wrong…?

Has anyone ever seen Gillespie and Veness in the same room together?

Ozhair said :

Where’s Mr Gillespie? Shouldn’t he be explaining to us how this poor bloke didn’t really do anything wrong…?

I can see it now:

MrGillespie:”Well maybe he HAD TO PLY HER WITH DRUGS to get HER INTERESTED in HIM. Because we all know what women want from MEN is DRUGS and MONEY!!! She was probably the one who started it anyway,with the WAY SHE WORE THAT SHIRT you could what SHE WANTED?!! And now the poor guy has LOST HIS JOB thanks to a woman who’s probably growing fat off DOZENS OF CHILD-SUPPORT PAYMENTS!! It’s a disgrace, and another reason other THAN PLASTIC BAGS to vote for the NO MORE BLOODY IMMIGRANTS party in the upcoming ELECTION!”

Masquara said :

bundah said :

Ah desire has a mind of it’s own and apparently even a psychiatrist could not resist the temptation.Is it just possible that they’re human after all?

Are you a rapist, then, seeking endorsement? None available from normal people.

Is this a rhetorical question?

Where’s Mr Gillespie? Shouldn’t he be explaining to us how this poor bloke didn’t really do anything wrong…?

bundah said :

Ah desire has a mind of it’s own and apparently even a psychiatrist could not resist the temptation.Is it just possible that they’re human after all?

Are you a rapist, then, seeking endorsement? None available from normal people.

Out of interest, and assuming only genuine motives, how does, or can, a doctor go about initiating a relationship with a patient?

If the doctor is a psychiatrist, never. The RANZCP Code of Ethics states that a sexual relationship between a psychiatrist and current *or former* patient is never ethical. And they have a stated zero tolerance for sexual boundary violations, so doctors found guilty of this will be expelled and can never be reinstated.

on the rare occasions they are caught.

Holden Caulfield said :

Out of interest, and assuming only genuine motives, how does, or can, a doctor go about initiating a relationship with a patient?

Prescribing Rohypnol would be a good start.

Holden Caulfield said :

Out of interest, and assuming only genuine motives, how does, or can, a doctor go about initiating a relationship with a patient?

I would imagine that would require the patient to no longer be a patient. In other words, as long as there is a professional relationship, it has to remain professional.

In the real world I suspect that it would be pretty suss, even then.

Someone correct me if I’m rong.

Holden Caulfield11:39 am 17 Aug 12

Out of interest, and assuming only genuine motives, how does, or can, a doctor go about initiating a relationship with a patient?

ppt1ne said :

…predate…. … PREDATE…

Would it have not been better to change at least one of those to prey on?

Affirmative Action Man11:14 am 17 Aug 12

Disgraceful by the AAT to have his name suppressed for so long. They seem to be working against the public interest. And shame on the Government & Greens for allowing it. It seems in Canberra if you are a dodgy Doctor or Lawyer it is very hard for the public to find out. So much for open & accountable government..

Ah desire has a mind of it’s own and apparently even a psychiatrist could not resist the temptation.Is it just possible that they’re human after all?

I say the repercussions of Dr Venness’ actions are not sufficient. IMO, criminal charges are necessary.

We are looking at someone who, looking for his 5th wife, decided to predate on our most vulnerable. When his true colors began to show in 2009, when his former lover, married woman Dr Tania Lioulios, complained that he had illegally prescribed her OxyContin, and made allegations of Dr Veness’ violence and illicit drug use, he again abused his position of power.

Dr Tania Lioulios took her life in the back of an ACT correction-services van, after attending court for the matter.

Dr Veness was allowed, by our government and by the Psychiatrist registration board, to continue practicing in the ACT. Dr Veness then set about looking for another victim. Our government failed to protect not only Dr Tania Lioulios, but also every subsequent patient.

I say criminal charges MUST proceed. There needs to be heavier repercussions for those who PREDATE on our most VULNERABLE.

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