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Images of Canberra – Capitals’ Smart Car parked sideways outside Tilleys

johnboy 21 October 2008 74

What could possibly be more delightfully Canberra than a women’s basketball team parking its smart car sideways outside a lesbian friendly bar in Lyneham?

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VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 10:30 am 23 Oct 08

Depends what you mean by ‘heavy’. There are few 4WDs on the market that don’t weigh more than similar sized 2WD vehicles. Subarus are probably an exception, but even they have higher fuel consumption than an equivalent 2WD vehicle because of the additional friction caused by having the extra driveline components.

My opinion (and that’s all it is) is that having 4WD is good for 2 things – rally cars and offroad vehicles. For any other application, it simply adds weight, cost, complexity and fuel consumption for no tangible benefit.

ant ant 10:26 am 23 Oct 08

4WD refers to transmission, a 4WD sends power to all 4 wheels, usually via a transfer case. My 4WD is lighter than most medium sized sedans. Many 4WDs are light, some are sedans with 4WD transmission, others are higher off the ground but very lightly built. And some are very large vehicles that are very heavy.

but for people who wish to do something about large, heavy vehicles, it makes those arguments too easy to defeat when they are termed “4WDs”, because there are so many 4WDs which are not heavy, or large.

As for bullbars, plenty of cars that aren’t 4WDs hav them. A lot of utes, for instance, and I see plenty of station wagons and sedans with them on, too.

mdme workalot mdme workalot 10:07 am 23 Oct 08

LOL @tylers – I rest my case….

tylersmayhem tylersmayhem 9:37 am 23 Oct 08

but I do take issue with the safety aspects of it and that’s why I don’t think they should be used in cities.

What?! What do you mean? What’s wrong wit massive SUVs, many with bull bars, that never go off road, but usually get used to drive the kids to school, where they are likely to run in front of cars? What safety issues?! I’m lost!

mdme workalot mdme workalot 8:35 am 23 Oct 08

@Ant – I don’t have issues with the fuel efficiency of SUVs, but I do take issue with the safety aspects of it and that’s why I don’t think they should be used in cities.

However I get the impression you live either down South or out Bungendore way, so you probably do make use of it.

nathan nathan 8:04 am 23 Oct 08

The Jas said :

Heres a couple –
1) Your freezing cold in Winter
2) Your boiling hot in Summer
3) Increased chance of being killed by either riding like an idiot or a car that didn’t see you
4) No radio to listen to
5) No aircon (see points 1 and 2)
6) Helmet hair on arrival at destination

1) Once. Riding home from Sydney after dark in August.
2) You’d think so, but no.
3) Equally likely to die riding like an idiot as driving like an idiot – jumping on a bike doesn’t magically trigger some dormant Road Incompetence gene, and if you crash at >80km/h you’re going to hurt, bike or car. Point taken on not being seen – that’s why I dress like a peacock.
4) GaF
5) See points 1 & 2
6) That’s becoming less of an issue every year, sadly.

The Jas The Jas 10:14 pm 22 Oct 08

nathan said :

Deano said :

But you’re not comparing like for like. The equivalent spec Mazda3 is $29,600. Plus the Mazda3 only gets 8.7l/100km compared to the Smart’s 4.7l/100km – a saving of nearly $1000 per year in petrol costs alone.

My bike gets 4.5L/100km, carries 2 people, a carton of beer and half a dozen bottles of wine, is easier to park than even a Smart, and I don’t look like a wanker on it. Oh, and it was a third of the price.

Downside? If it rains, I get wet. And… no, that’s all.

Heres a couple –
1) Your freezing cold in Winter
2) Your boiling hot in Summer
3) Increased chance of being killed by either riding like an idiot or a car that didn’t see you
4) No radio to listen to
5) No aircon (see points 1 and 2)
6) Helmet hair on arrival at destination

Felix the Cat Felix the Cat 8:33 pm 22 Oct 08

Mathman said :

I recently drove my smart car from Canberra to Sydney and back. It had no trouble maintaining highway speeds and, yes on blustery days like today it is a bit twitchy. It did the Canberra Sydney return trip on one tank of fuel which is just over 33 litres or $50 – cheaper than the bus.

My 1987 Laser only used $60 worth of fuel for return trip to Sydney recently. Not a huge car but considerably bigger than a Smart car – and a lot cheaper.

johnboy johnboy 6:19 pm 22 Oct 08

Interestingly Clarkson’s recently opined on the fuel efficiency of the smart car.

Pandy Pandy 6:04 pm 22 Oct 08

Overheard, so you wont get any Subaru then?

Oh you meant 4X4 and not a AWD or softie SUV

ant ant 2:50 pm 22 Oct 08

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

And 4.5l/100km doesn’t seem that good for bike – I once owned a car that would do 5.5l/100km around town!

My Charade did that, easily. And my hulking “SUV” guzzles a massive 7.5 l/100km, argh, the beast is driving me to wrack and ruin.

I love people with Falcodores complaining about gas-guzzling 4WDs.

I quite like the Smart roadster thingy, soft-top. If it was priced more realistically, I’d get one for sure.

Overheard Overheard 1:33 pm 22 Oct 08

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Makes sense. I was thinking of getting a van once as well, but unfortunately wouldn’t get enough use of it in the way you’re thinking of using yours.

That’s the thing. I can’t justify a V6 anymore. Yeah, it’s big and comfortable for long hauls like Moruya to Brisbane in one hit last Christmas Day, and I definitely need cruise control (as I had my pelvis re-modelled by a NT Range Rover with bullbars outside Dickson Library when I was 11 years old, and then had my spine re-sized and angle-ground when I was 28, so long distances ain’t fun). But further than that, I’ll definitely get the use out of a mini-bus. Kiddies won’t mind the extra room either.

It’ll be a cold day in hell and they’ll be handing out the great coats by the side of the river Styx the day I get a 4×4. I love the bush but have no need to go off road unless it’s on foot.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 1:24 pm 22 Oct 08

I suspect that’s down to the rider…

Ahh, say no more…

I was actually eyeing off a 4cyl Tarago style thingy on the weekend that was way cheap and very well-maintained. I need the extra space for rocking up to strange festivals late at night and being able to stagger back to same at 4am after a singing session without having to bother with putting up a tent in possible driving rain.

Makes sense. I was thinking of getting a van once as well, but unfortunately wouldn’t get enough use of it in the way you’re thinking of using yours.

Loose Brown Loose Brown 1:22 pm 22 Oct 08

Actually p1 – that makes good sense – as a lot of the trip to the moon was just coasting using no fuel at all.

nathan nathan 1:21 pm 22 Oct 08

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

And 4.5l/100km doesn’t seem that good for bike – I once owned a car that would do 5.5l/100km around town!

I suspect that’s down to the rider…

Overheard Overheard 1:20 pm 22 Oct 08

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

(The V6 is going just as soon as I can find something in a nice 4cyl that meets my various needs.)

It would want to be a cheap 4 cyl, second hand large cars aren’t worth much these days!

And 4.5l/100km doesn’t seem that good for bike – I once owned a car that would do 5.5l/100km around town!

I was actually eyeing off a 4cyl Tarago style thingy on the weekend that was way cheap and very well-maintained. I need the extra space for rocking up to strange festivals late at night and being able to stagger back to same at 4am after a singing session without having to bother with putting up a tent in possible driving rain.

I tried this trick at a non-musical event a couple of years ago and made the mistake of going for the tent erection (ahem) AFTER the commencement of the convivialities, and the result was something like ‘Los Trios Ringbarkus’ trying to put up their deckchairs, for anyone for whom that makes sense or paints a visual picture.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 1:14 pm 22 Oct 08

(The V6 is going just as soon as I can find something in a nice 4cyl that meets my various needs.)

It would want to be a cheap 4 cyl, second hand large cars aren’t worth much these days!

And 4.5l/100km doesn’t seem that good for bike – I once owned a car that would do 5.5l/100km around town!

p1 p1 1:14 pm 22 Oct 08

And it only counts as efficient if you car pool with 400 odd of your closest work mates.

p1 p1 1:13 pm 22 Oct 08

Oh – and in terms of power to weight to distance travelled – the most efficient vehicle ever devised by man is the new Airbus A380.

I know that leaving the earth’s orbit takes a lot of energy, but the trip to the moon was a very, very long way, so on that basis I would be interested to know how the apollo missions stack up.

johnboy johnboy 1:09 pm 22 Oct 08

Loose Brown said :

Oh – and in terms of power to weight to distance travelled – the most efficient vehicle ever devised by man is the new Airbus A380.

But I’d like to see you park it at Tilleys.

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