27 December 2013

In search of a bingled white Toyota ute

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On Boxing Day around 10.30pm, someone driving a white Toyota ute caused an accident at the corner of Drakeford and Erindale Drive.

Two other cars were involved, one of which was rear-ended and then smashed driver’s side first into a light pole. I have no idea of the full extent of the driver’s injuries, but she had severe right leg pain, cuts from broken glass and broken teeth. When I continued my journey, all three emergency services were at the scene. I hope the young woman who was injured is going to be ok.

Within seconds of causing the accident, the ute left the scene heading east on Erindale Drive. It was a white Hilux? with TOYOTA in red on the rear tail gate, with roof/ladder racks of some description. If you know anything about this vehicle or who was driving it, please contact the Police. It will be pretty hard to miss as the bonnet looks something like this:

Front end damage

Thank you to everyone who stopped to offer assistance last night, and to all the emergency service personnel who are working over the holiday season to take care of our community.

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Roundhead89 said :

gooterz said :

Probably the driver has no licence was on drugs/alcohol, so it was likely they didnt want to stop because they’d face jail.

Jail? In the ACT? I didn’t know gooterz had started a comedy career.

I did say face jail, maybe they just don’t like getting dressed up?

gooterz said :

Probably the driver has no licence was on drugs/alcohol, so it was likely they didnt want to stop because they’d face jail.

Jail? In the ACT? I didn’t know gooterz had started a comedy career.

Moral in this story is never drive in the valley after dark. Even money it will end badly.

gooterz said :

Probably the driver has no licence was on drugs/alcohol, so it was likely they didnt want to stop because they’d face jail.

Thank you Jessica Fletcher.
And that folks wraps up another episode of Murder She Wrote.
Join us next week when gooterz provides the answer to the age old question of who killed Laura Palmer.

MarcusSR20 said :

s-s-a said :

Marcus probably matched location and time described in my OP?

Marcus can you clarify where you saw the ute and which direction it was heading?

The time and location matched perfectly, so much so that I deliberately checked this site in the morning to see if that acco which I passed, had anything to do with an old ute which I saw moments before..

He pulled up next to me at the intersection of Drakeford and Athlon (we were at the Reds on Drakeford heading south bound). Before he even dropped a burnout through the Red light, I thought he was Idiot – I had just gone through a yellow light at the intersection before (Drakeford and Ohallaran) and he was waaaay behind me and still went through..

Pitty it wasn’t the red light/speed camera the lights 1-2 before then. But might be worth checking if the cops have a shot if he went though there with speed.

Probably the driver has no licence was on drugs/alcohol, so it was likely they didnt want to stop because they’d face jail.

s-s-a said :

Marcus probably matched location and time described in my OP?

Marcus can you clarify where you saw the ute and which direction it was heading?

The time and location matched perfectly, so much so that I deliberately checked this site in the morning to see if that acco which I passed, had anything to do with an old ute which I saw moments before..

He pulled up next to me at the intersection of Drakeford and Athlon (we were at the Reds on Drakeford heading south bound). Before he even dropped a burnout through the Red light, I thought he was Idiot – I had just gone through a yellow light at the intersection before (Drakeford and Ohallaran) and he was waaaay behind me and still went through..

Marcus probably matched location and time described in my OP?

Marcus can you clarify where you saw the ute and which direction it was heading?

Toyota approaching lights at warp factor as two cars ahead of it were just pulling away on green. Tried to squeeze through between the two, side-swiped one and rear-ended the other forcing it into a spin.

Vehicle was possibly a 4wd and I think not a crew cab. Hard to tell given how little time it was in view and by the time I pulled over it would have been 50+ metres away.

There are probably heaps of vehicles in Canberra that fit this vague description, but considerably fewer with a crunched bonnet and scrapings of black (front impact) and gold (side swipe) duco from the other cars.

KB1971 said :

How exactly did this Toyota cause this accident?

You will need a better description than that, what you describe narrows it down to about a 20 year model range. 2WD, 4WD, single cab, dual cab, extra cab, bull bar, wide wheels??

Marcus, how do you know its the same ute?

It was definitely the same POS ute (really old model, rust, panels didn’t match and ladder racks, douche in a Red Hoodie) pulls up next to me while we were on a Red – Stops then starts trying to drop a burnout across the intersection while cars are approaching.. I just thought WTF? 2 sets of lights down I see the acco and ppl already stopped to help..

How exactly did this Toyota cause this accident?

You will need a better description than that, what you describe narrows it down to about a 20 year model range. 2WD, 4WD, single cab, dual cab, extra cab, bull bar, wide wheels??

Marcus, how do you know its the same ute?

Pork Hunt said :

Any one (Tooks) know what the rules of evidence are with dash cams?
If, for instance, one is suspected of being at fault in a bingle, are the plod allowed to seize it for future reference?
Knowing my luck, if I got one it would be used against me 🙂

I’d definitely suggest caution with them. So long as you’re not doing anything overtly silly, then you’d probably be safe enough if it’s a dumb dumb recorder. But I’ve seen some units advertised that claim to record speed for example, so if you’re going a bit fast, or the unit’s accuracy is out, there could be consequences.

Brianna said :

Got a dash cam for xmas. Hope I never have to use it. Emergency services personnel are brilliant.

Score! Hopefully you don’t need to use it, but it’s peace of mind right there. Also if it can be seen by other drivers (especially if you have a rear mounted cam), it’s a deterrent to aggressive / dangerous manoeuvres.

Pork Hunt said :

Any one (Tooks) know what the rules of evidence are with dash cams?
If, for instance, one is suspected of being at fault in a bingle, are the plod allowed to seize it for future reference?
Knowing my luck, if I got one it would be used against me 🙂

Having worked on building CCTV systems, the police generally ask for a CD to be burnt of the particular incident, and about 15 minutes either side of the incident. They never really take the whole recorders (DVD player / PC sized boxes) away. Given the smaller size of dash cams and their recording media, it wouldn’t surprise me if they want the whole memory card to have a look through. So I find the best way of approaching that is to keep in the back of my mind that the police could want all the footage if things turn to crap, so I keep my driving pretty well behaved anyway

Any one (Tooks) know what the rules of evidence are with dash cams?
If, for instance, one is suspected of being at fault in a bingle, are the plod allowed to seize it for future reference?
Knowing my luck, if I got one it would be used against me 🙂

grunge_hippy7:18 pm 27 Dec 13

Brianna said :

Got a dash cam for xmas. Hope I never have to use it. Emergency services personnel are brilliant.

I had the misfortune of having to call an ambo twice in 2 days before christmas (dodgy reaction to medication) and they are absolutely BRILLIANT!

Got a dash cam for xmas. Hope I never have to use it. Emergency services personnel are brilliant.

Thankfully nobody was killed in that crash!!!

I know I sound like a broken record when I recommend it, but I do strongly recommend everyone gets their car fitted with dash cams. While the panic of trying to regain control of a car during an accident hits, it’s pretty hard for any reasonable person to note the plates of who caused it, let alone know who caused it at all! The camera continues to function, and would have managed to help nail the culprit, such as old mate in the Hilux.

I do hope they catch the idiot.

Hope they catch this d!ckhead, I saw him drop a burnout through a red light 2 intersections back..

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